I don't think you will see either one in the NFL.I do not know of a QB in the NFL right now who doesn't have some mobility. Even the older guys like Aaron Rodgers can move around in the pocket when necessary. I don't know what Maalik gains by being openly opposed to running. As has been said before, there's a reason he's at Duke and Riley is starting at Notre Dame.
Time to move on from Murphy. He cannot run and avoid the rush. He throws the ball too hard. He does not, or cannot, read the defenses he faces. Throws to closely covered receivers. And he makes Duke way too easy to defend against. I have to admit that Hart was absolutely correct months ago when he stated that we whould be relying upon Loftis and/or Belin.Duke has to figure out something during the bye. The oc is awful
I think there really trying to redshirt loftis so I don’t think he’ll be an option but belin ABSOLUTELY deserves a shot. As for brewer his offense has no flow or tempo. Its like watching an 6 year old play maddenTime to move on from Murphy. He cannot run and avoid the rush. He throws the ball too hard. He does not, or cannot, read the defenses he faces. Throws to closely covered receivers. And he makes Duke way too easy to defend against. I have to admit that Hart was absolutely correct months ago when he stated that we whould be relying upon Loftis and/or Belin.
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Time to move on from Murphy. He cannot run and avoid the rush. He throws the ball too hard. He does not, or cannot, read the defenses he faces. Throws to closely covered receivers. And he makes Duke way too easy to defend against. I have to admit that Hart was absolutely correct months ago when he stated that we whould be relying upon Loftis and/or Belin.
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DI I appreciate the mention my friend. Actually I hate to be correct, but last nite was a definitive statement we need a dual threat qb.I have always liked Belin over Loftis but I have been disappointed we have not let one play. I am really struggling with 2 of the coaches. The OC is very meh and the special teams coach has shown he had no experience. We need a spark on the offense. Murphy is just to rigid in the pocket but on another board one of the regular commentators was saying that he sat next to Belins parents at a recent game and they said he is still recovering from his injury from last year. I don't know for sure but man a QB with mobility would be a nice change right now.
Lift this is what scares me. In the age of NIL, coaches become like contract negotiators too. All I know is Maalik commented after signing with Duke "I wanted to go somewhere I would play," and that's certainly been the case.Was the Murphy-Loftis preseason qb duel merely a charade? Did staff know all along Maalik would be the starter?Do they see a lot in Murphy in practice than we see in games? Do they feel he has such arm talent that it will eventually pay dividends? I can't believe they "promised" him that he would start and they are stuck with that promise,
They’ve been a HUGE disappointment this yearWatching NC State offense Jordan Waters made big mistake going there. They need offensive coordinator in a bad way.
To be clear: This is the article referenced, mid-term PFF grades and explainers for Duke's offense.That’s a good article, and the grades seem to stand up to the visual test. That said, it is not particularly encouraging regarding our skill positions, starting with QB. IMO, this is the weakest we’ve been at that position in a while. Murphy has a strong arm, but no touch, poor accuracy and can’t/won’t run. Not to mention he throws into coverage and has a slow release. I’m really not sure why we went after him. I keep waiting for Manny to go to Henry or Grayson.
The grades didn’t include our kickers. They’re the best we’ve had in some time.
Thanks Conor, nice read. I think Friday nite's game is a pretty significant, for several reasons:
There has been no rule change about injury updates; in the ACC, it's just up to the coach's discretion on how much or little he wants to share. Manny simply said they're working through who's going to be back and available and that's pretty much all we've got until Friday night, unless/until things leak from within the program.Thanks Conor, nice read. I think Friday nite's game is a pretty significant, for several reasons:
A win means:
1/Bowl Eligibility
2/Gets the we've never beaten FSU (as conference member), off our back.
3/Re-establishes some momentum before a huge contest (also @ home) vs SMU the following week.
Questions: Obviously ACC coaches play it cool on injury updates at weekly pressers(last several years rule change)as player availability isn't required until what, day of game? However you have any feelings on availability of Jac.Moore, Morris, Bergeron for Friday nite?
Conor, always appreciate all you do....
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There is no rule that says a player has to be a freshman to get the 4-game maximum redshirt rule. That's why N.C. State's QB last year, MJ Morris, bailed after playing in his 4 games. It's how Wake Forest bought Sam Hartman an extra season (that wound up using at ND), by only playing him in 4 games in 2019 after he started 9 games in 2018.Scuttlebut: Anybody hearing what's making the rounds on some other Duke message boards: a majority of Ex-Duke players feel Grayson Loftis is THE BEST qb on Duke's roster??
Also for @ConorONeill. Conor I know this applies to True Freshman.but since LOFTIS IS REDSHIRTED, Can he play in up to four games, and still not burn his redshirt?? Thanks in advance.
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Conor MANY THANKS for this very valued info. OFCThere is no rule that says a player has to be a freshman to get the 4-game maximum redshirt rule. That's why N.C. State's QB last year, MJ Morris, bailed after playing in his 4 games. It's how Wake Forest bought Sam Hartman an extra season (that wound up using at ND), by only playing him in 4 games in 2019 after he started 9 games in 2018.
So, yes, IF the plan is to redshirt Grayson Loftis, he can play in 4 regular-season games plus any postseason game(s) -- that is actually a rule change this year -- and not lose a season of eligibility.
Wow, thanks for the scoop Lift!!Hart, I'm afraid former players don't have a vote on who plays QB for Duke.
I don't understand if Belin is #2 on the depth chart, why he isn't getting some reps. I assume Manny and his staff are seeing great things in practice that we haven't seen yet, which merits having a stationary QB playing in a sport that almost requires a mobile QB.