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I would be worried that Garrett would find out in one year that he doesn't like recruiting and we'd be doing this all over again next year.
Hart. Stay away from that social media stuff. Against official OFC rules. OFC
I have UNCheat friends that love the idea of Garrett to Duke if that tells you anything.
He's a ginger. And mentally challenged. I started the rumor. Please don't hire the poster boy for mediocrity
Elko went to Penn. I still want him. Need defense first. Tired of 30 to 40 point losses. OFC
I am not opposed to Elko. I guess I just dont like the track record of our last two DC hires: Barry Wilson and Ted Roof. Still Elko's
qualifications appear much better. I would take Elko or Elliot, and be done with it. OFC
so it looks like the Tony Elliot to UVA is heating back up. evidently the Poindexter interviews were not good. wanted UVA to lower their standards etc. Elliot wants UVA more than Duke which is understandable. seems like the DC Elko from texas a&m or jason garret. hmmm
The latest buzz is that Tony Elliott is still very much in play for UVA, meaning Anthony Poindexter is not the slam dunk, done deal that some thought he was.
Mike Elko makes a lot of sense, at least to me.
Mike Elko makes a lot of sense, at least to me.
I guess George Edwards from the Cowboys never got traction? I liked it that he had pro experience and is a Duke grad so he might not want to jump as soon as he had some (hopefully) success.
poindexter has tweeted some of the guys on the UVA board that he is staying at penn st so..... guess they will putting the full press on Elliot
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George Edwards never made much sense to me, given his last year coaching in college was 1996. College football has evolved so much since then and recruiting is such a different beast than it was back then.
For the same reason, Jason Garrett makes little sense to me -- though, he at least has the background of running his own show (or as much as he was afforded while Jerry Jones watched over his shoulder).
I'm not ruling either one of them out -- though it seems like Garrett is a more-serious candidate than Edwards -- but some of these interviews/candidates feel more like favors being done than significant candidates being interviewed. (and that's fine, it happens at every level)
For the same reason, Jason Garrett makes little sense to me -- though, he at least has the background of running his own show (or as much as he was afforded while Jerry Jones watched over his shoulder).
I'm not ruling either one of them out -- though it seems like Garrett is a more-serious candidate than Edwards -- but some of these interviews/candidates feel more like favors being done than significant candidates being interviewed. (and that's fine, it happens at every level)
So from what Conor and Surf are saying, Elko is the only viable candidate left, unless there's a darkhorse out there that no one knows about.
If Elko isn't interested, then this search is going just like a lot of us feared. Duke is left going after scraps after all the better programs get their man.
If Elko isn't interested, then this search is going just like a lot of us feared. Duke is left going after scraps after all the better programs get their man.
i think garret is a bigger get than conor thinks but that is just me. i would be happy with either of the two. could Elko bring the a&m dline coach with him as the dc? he just graded out as the #2 recruiter in all of football. there is not a house that garret goes into where he is not known. could he fire up the boosters to bring in lots of money? also think of the impact to the bulk of duke football fans who are really only here because of duke basketball. they might get excited about real football for once. to me it is all about who they get for staff.
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Agree Conor. I do understand a group of ex Duke players wrote a letter in support of former Blue Devil and current Cowboy defensive asst George Edwards. OFC
^^ that's the key with Garrett, who he brings as staff.
I don't mean to make it seem like he wouldn't be a big get -- I mean, he was coach of "America's team" for a decade -- but it just seems so peculiar. It's weird to me that a 55-year-old with zero college coaching experience would all of a sudden want a job at one of the more difficult places in the country to win. Duke's facilities aren't horrible, but you're going to go from Jerry World to college, with the failed stopover in NY in between?
It can work. It just feels like the riskier option.
I don't mean to make it seem like he wouldn't be a big get -- I mean, he was coach of "America's team" for a decade -- but it just seems so peculiar. It's weird to me that a 55-year-old with zero college coaching experience would all of a sudden want a job at one of the more difficult places in the country to win. Duke's facilities aren't horrible, but you're going to go from Jerry World to college, with the failed stopover in NY in between?
It can work. It just feels like the riskier option.
Kid: "Mom, Jason Garret is coming to visit tonight"
Mom: "You mean the former coach of the Cowboys, America's team? Wow!
Kid: "Mom, Mike Elko is coming to visit tonight."
Mom: "Who?"
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Mom: "You mean the former coach of the Cowboys, America's team? Wow!
Kid: "Mom, Mike Elko is coming to visit tonight."
Mom: "Who?"
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I work with a guy who is a huge Cowboy fan. I mean, he flies from the East Coast to Cowboys games every year and has Cowboy stuff all over his office.
He's never even heard of George Edwards.
He's never even heard of George Edwards.
I can’t disagree about the name recognition, but i hope that’s not the major criteria. He may be just the right guy, but I have to be concerned about someone who has gone from the Cowboys HC, to the Giants OC and now to…Duke? His career is headed in the opposite direction of someone who is highly regarded in the industry. That said, if Nina King and the Board of Trustees are sold on him, i assume they’ll have that issue resolved, and I’ll support him 100%. Well, long enough to see whether he can do the job.
I just hope that Duke makes the right hire. Too many years since they have had good teams. Time to turn that around.
As a Giants fan Garrett’s offense was a disaster.His schemes produced the worse offense in the NFL.As the head coach of the Cowboys he never displayed a knack for inspiring players.Imo this would be a horrible hire
A group of Duke players from Spurrier's '89 team (Edwards starred at LB), have written a letter to AD Nina King in support of Edwards as next Duke coach.
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Topps we're on same page. OFC
topps and hart who would be both of your choices as our coach. I agree about Garrett. He hasn't been succesful as a head coach or O.C. No experience recruiting. I know he follows Duke basketball. Problem is he may be the only guy willing to take the job which is just my opinion only. Even with all the improvements and upgrades to W.W. it is subpar to other football stadiums and possibly the worst in the ACC. Another thing is Duke University is going to have to rethink their committment to the football program. There are other programs that are succesful right now that have tough academic requirements. It's gonna take a while. OFC
Sky I would prefer either Mike Elko (DC at Tex A&M) or former Duke LB and Sr Def Coord at Dallas, George Edwards.
Jason Garrett is in the picture, because he's somewhat damaged goods after a firing by the NY Giants as OC and in between jobs. He called Duke about the job and has political connections at Duke thru his visits with Tony Romo to watch Duke basketball in Cameron. OFC
i think elko is the way to go myself. garret has no college experience but at least he has name recognition. edwards hasnt been involved with college teams since 1997. how about garret as hc, edwards as dc and spurrier jr as oc?
Cannot give you an informed opinion about a specific coach but I would be looking for a young innovation offensive coach.
per the ''insiders'' on other sites duke has conducted multiple interviews out in vegas. i cant fault the effort they are putting into this search. duke is a hard sell. as the espn guys down here in wilmington were saying the other day on the radio ''duke is where you start your career or finish your career''. hurtfull but true
surf thats an interesting p rosal.
Hmmm....Vegas???? Interesting... OFC
everybody is in vegas for the college hall of fame ceremony this week fyi
so it seems the UVA/Elliot negotiations have fallen apart per their board. now they are talking Gattis from michigan
Tough to indict without facts here ... but damn this is a terrible look for UVA/Carla Williams.
i get the poindexter thing if academics being lowered was truly one of his requests. that is a hard no and i am glad that they stood firm. the elliot thing (money for assistants per their board) is not a good look like conor says. they are saying (once again per their board) that UVA did not even match Dukes numbers. two ways to look at that. UVA is being cheap and Duke evidently has really raised their bar.
they are also saying on the UVA board that he has flown home to decide between UVA, Duke and staying at clemson so............
guess we are still at three. Elko, Elliot and Garret.
they are also saying on the UVA board that he has flown home to decide between UVA, Duke and staying at clemson so............
guess we are still at three. Elko, Elliot and Garret.
Wow, well obviously its a very fluid situation. It seems two steps forward one step back for Duke day to day. Mendenhall's resignation at UVA really threw a wrench into things. Now the Cavs are talking to Michigan OC Josh Gattis, another original Duke target:
Report: Josh Gattis Emerges For Head Coaching Job
The Virginia Cavaliers football program has been desperately searching for its next head coach following the sudden departure of Bronco Mendenhall last week.
thespun.com
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As I said, I think Garrett is risky. Maybe it's worth taking a risk, though -- while acknowledging Nina King's fate as AD isn't going to be tied to the first football coach she hires.
I think Elko makes more sense, I would think it's worth calling Gattis after UVA temporarily used him as Plan C yesterday ... but the Garrett gamble might pay off.
I think Elko makes more sense, I would think it's worth calling Gattis after UVA temporarily used him as Plan C yesterday ... but the Garrett gamble might pay off.
None of us has met either of the candidates nor heard their vision of the future of Duke football.
Based on my knowledge of Jason Garrett, I would be skeptical of his vision for Duke football considering his failures in the NFL lately and his lack of knowledge of the college game. Just my opinion.
Based on my knowledge of Jason Garrett, I would be skeptical of his vision for Duke football considering his failures in the NFL lately and his lack of knowledge of the college game. Just my opinion.
