Cm'on people. I want someone to tell us why we are going to be better than what I am predicting. Or woe is me. OFC
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to me it will all be on the qb play. if we get just ''average'' qb play we will be better than last year on o which will help the line block for the run. if we can consistantly run the ball then this would help the defense from tiring out in the second half like last year. just dont know at this point how GH will play. to me this is the year that CUT really needs to get his shit together and focus on qb development.
i am more upbeat about our defensive front seven than most. we are finally getting the right sized kids playing the right spots. no more groing kids into spots. we dont have a DE under 6'3'' but in my eyes they are still light for the position which seems to be an ongoing duke issue.
caleb oppan 6'4'' 235 lbs rsoph needs 20 to 30 lbs to be able to set edge
r j obban 6'4'' 255 lbs rsoph needs 10 to 15 and i think he could play on sundays
aaron hall 6'4'' 240 lbs true frosh needs to shape body and add 20 to 25 lbs of good weight in the future
ben frye 6'3'' 255 lbs grad never really found his spot but i like him at de more than a 255 lb dt. that was stupiid
ahmad craig 6'5'' 250 lbs rsoph the other one i think add 15 to 20 and you could play on sunday
zamari ellis 6'5'' 240 lbs r-jr late move in swapping spots. has the frame for adding 20 to 25 lbs
michael reese 6'4'' 250 lbs soph lost 10 lbs. hopefully baby fat? put on 15 lbs and kick some but. he has potential
our dt's are more on pace. young but i think full of promise
christian rorie 6'6'' 305lbs rsoph tall for position but good weight.
aeneas peebles 6'2'' 280lbs soph up 15 lbs from freshman. keep growing big guy.
dewayns carter 6'3'' 300 lbs rsoph this kid is a player
gary smith 6'2'' 320 lbs soph is he getting to heavy? we shall see but looked good as a true frosh
ja'mion franklin 6'1'' 310 lbs rjr is he over covid which wacked him last year? if he is then great addition
mandala tobin 6'4'' 270lbs true frosh has the frame for more weight. DE or DT? need him here
lbs are deep for 2 spots
sayyid stevens 6'3'' 225lbs rsoph great size. would like to see another 5 to 10
dorian mausi 6'2'' 210 soph really needs another 20 i think
nick morris jr 6'3'' 225lbs true frosh good size out of high school. shape him for a year
ryan smith 6'2'' 210 soph just like dorian could use 20
shake heyward 6'4'' 220 lbs rjr still needs 10-15 in my book to play on sundays
rocky shelton 6'0'' 235lbs rjr. can he be consistent? 4th year so lets hope so
tre freeman 6'1'' 230 lbs true frosh. potential potential potential
caleb oppan 6'4'' 235 lbs rsoph needs 20 to 30 lbs to be able to set edge
r j obban 6'4'' 255 lbs rsoph needs 10 to 15 and i think he could play on sundays
aaron hall 6'4'' 240 lbs true frosh needs to shape body and add 20 to 25 lbs of good weight in the future
ben frye 6'3'' 255 lbs grad never really found his spot but i like him at de more than a 255 lb dt. that was stupiid
ahmad craig 6'5'' 250 lbs rsoph the other one i think add 15 to 20 and you could play on sunday
zamari ellis 6'5'' 240 lbs r-jr late move in swapping spots. has the frame for adding 20 to 25 lbs
michael reese 6'4'' 250 lbs soph lost 10 lbs. hopefully baby fat? put on 15 lbs and kick some but. he has potential
our dt's are more on pace. young but i think full of promise
christian rorie 6'6'' 305lbs rsoph tall for position but good weight.
aeneas peebles 6'2'' 280lbs soph up 15 lbs from freshman. keep growing big guy.
dewayns carter 6'3'' 300 lbs rsoph this kid is a player
gary smith 6'2'' 320 lbs soph is he getting to heavy? we shall see but looked good as a true frosh
ja'mion franklin 6'1'' 310 lbs rjr is he over covid which wacked him last year? if he is then great addition
mandala tobin 6'4'' 270lbs true frosh has the frame for more weight. DE or DT? need him here
lbs are deep for 2 spots
sayyid stevens 6'3'' 225lbs rsoph great size. would like to see another 5 to 10
dorian mausi 6'2'' 210 soph really needs another 20 i think
nick morris jr 6'3'' 225lbs true frosh good size out of high school. shape him for a year
ryan smith 6'2'' 210 soph just like dorian could use 20
shake heyward 6'4'' 220 lbs rjr still needs 10-15 in my book to play on sundays
rocky shelton 6'0'' 235lbs rjr. can he be consistent? 4th year so lets hope so
tre freeman 6'1'' 230 lbs true frosh. potential potential potential
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FYI nfl draft average through first four rounds which i think should be the standard we shoot for
DE 6'-4 1/2'' 265 lbs
DT 6'-2 3/4'' 306 lbs
ILB 6'2'' 232 lbs
this kinda highlights that the de's are small, the dt's are kinda spot on and the lbs are small. we have the height but we just dont seem to bulk up to the size that nfl teams look for. that being said, there are lots and lots of good college players who wont get a look at the nfl but i sure wish we would help our kids more along that path.
the weights for duke players in the clip above are from the goduke.com roster from spring ball
DE 6'-4 1/2'' 265 lbs
DT 6'-2 3/4'' 306 lbs
ILB 6'2'' 232 lbs
this kinda highlights that the de's are small, the dt's are kinda spot on and the lbs are small. we have the height but we just dont seem to bulk up to the size that nfl teams look for. that being said, there are lots and lots of good college players who wont get a look at the nfl but i sure wish we would help our kids more along that path.
the weights for duke players in the clip above are from the goduke.com roster from spring ball
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Player development at Duke under Cutcliffe has really bottomed out in recent years. I mean this both from a talent and physical strength point of view. I look at this year's draft of four players as more of an aberration than anything else.
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I do think our defense CAN BE better this year. We ALL KNOW IT WILL ONLY HAPPEN, if we can overcome the three and out habit.Also, limit our nation leading turnovers rate! OFC
Thanks Surf for the rundown on the defensive side. I think Cut has succeeded in making the defense more athletic lately but the quotes on Tangelo at Penn State underscore the lack of muscle building at Duke along the lines. Our offensive linemen seem to have good size but their strength doesn't match that of the same sized guys at other schools.
We have play makers on the offensive side if the line can give our QB the time. Used to be that the OL might not move guys out for the running game but at least could keep them out for the passing game. I would settle for that.
We have play makers on the offensive side if the line can give our QB the time. Used to be that the OL might not move guys out for the running game but at least could keep them out for the passing game. I would settle for that.
yeah i dont know whats going on with the strength and conditioning aspect of our program. players just dont seem to develop the weight/muscle needed to compete in the acc or to move on to the pros. it seems to me that our guys (especially on oline) are either 15-20 lbs to light or 15-20 lbs to heavy.
maurice mcintyre og is at 330lbs
peace addo ot is at 345lbs
elijah wrotten og/c at 330lbs
patrick leitten ot at 270lbs as a grad student
ron carr ot at 275lbs after 3 years
nicky dalmolin te at 215lbs still after one full year in program. needs 30 lbs
dorian mausi lb 210lbs after one full year
ryan smith lb 210lbs after one full year
caleb oppan de 235lbs after 3 years in program
i look at these numbers and just wonder how a school like duke cant seem to put weight on some kids or control the weight of others. huge failing by staff
maurice mcintyre og is at 330lbs
peace addo ot is at 345lbs
elijah wrotten og/c at 330lbs
patrick leitten ot at 270lbs as a grad student
ron carr ot at 275lbs after 3 years
nicky dalmolin te at 215lbs still after one full year in program. needs 30 lbs
dorian mausi lb 210lbs after one full year
ryan smith lb 210lbs after one full year
caleb oppan de 235lbs after 3 years in program
i look at these numbers and just wonder how a school like duke cant seem to put weight on some kids or control the weight of others. huge failing by staff
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Thats excellent info surf!!!! I didnt even realize it was this out of control. OFC
That is funny. As I recall, when Cut first got here he was bragging about how he was going to whip the team into excellent shape, Then, periodically, he would brag about what good physical condition we were in. So what happened?
Now is a perfect time to let Cut go. Next year is shaping up like a disaster and will only worsen our current feeble recruiting efforts. Let one of our current "crack" coordinators take over the team while we search for a Cut replacement. Couldn't be any worse than if Cut was still HC. Could have new coach in place by November, with time to recruit. Another 2 - 10 season would put us back where we were when Cut got here with Franks et al.
I believe Cut is going to hang it up after this season. Hopefully will announce that decision sooner rather than later and let a search begin. I also believe that if a decision hasn’t been made by the time the new AD is selected, it will occur shortly afterwards.
I could see Cut lasting through this season, since the administration is going to give him a "COVID pass". Then assuming this season goes the way it inevitably will, Cut will be given an administrative job for the last year on his contract while Duke brings in a new guy to start the latest rebuild.
I do not feel we are back to square one. Our facilities are much improved. Cut showed you can win at Duke. He just didn't sustain the intensity, aggressiveness and most of all flexibility he showed early on. We owe him a debt of gratitude in my opinion. He just stayed longer than he should have when his intensity waned.
I do not feel we are back to square one. Our facilities are much improved. Cut showed you can win at Duke. He just didn't sustain the intensity, aggressiveness and most of all flexibility he showed early on. We owe him a debt of gratitude in my opinion. He just stayed longer than he should have when his intensity waned.
bang bang carson van lynn a 6' 5 1/2'' 295lb OT from pitt transfers in as a grad student. started several games for a deep pitt oline last year. great fit for depth/relief starter in a position of need. i really like this one
fyi he is a cousin of matt skura
2017 red shirted as a true frosh
2018 rfr started season as an ot but moved to te when they needed bodies
2019 rsoph moved back to ot full time. played in all 13 games as a reserve
2020 rjr played in all 11 games, started at rt vs nc state, va tech and clemson
fyi he is a cousin of matt skura
2017 red shirted as a true frosh
2018 rfr started season as an ot but moved to te when they needed bodies
2019 rsoph moved back to ot full time. played in all 13 games as a reserve
2020 rjr played in all 11 games, started at rt vs nc state, va tech and clemson
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You could be right. Meanwhile, for all the touting of the close relationship Cut has with the Manning families, Arch Manning wants to visit UNC, no mention of Duke being on his radar…
so now that we have gotten our 3rd oline transfer i thought i would look at it
these positions are per goduke after spring workouts
OT
casey holman 6'4'' 290 lbs starting rt or does he move inside to og where we are light in numbers?
john gelotte 6'7'' 295 lbs time to step up and take that left tackle spot
patrick leitten 6'7'' 270 lbs just to damned light but probably safer for him due to his knee injuries
peace addo 6'6'' 345 lbs will never get anything more than spot minutes i think due to weight
caleb perez 6'5'' 310 lbs great size and body. really want to see him earn time.
ron carr 6'5'' 275 lbs ugh three years in program and still 20-25 lbs to light
justin pickett 6'7'' 315 lbs true incoming frosh. will get a few games under his belt but keep redshirt
carson van lynn 6' 5.5'' 295 lbs already has starting experience in acc at rt. helpfull pick up
OG
jacob monk 6'3'' 310 lbs need a bounce back dominating year
graham barton 6'6'' 315 lbs was very good as a center fill in last year as a true frosh
maurice mcintyre 6'2'' 330lbs just seems a little large
kade parnelly 6'3'' 305 lbs just dont know because of competition level . great size and weight though
brian foley 6'4'' 314 lbs see above
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jack wohlabaugh 6'4'' 305 lbs will he be recovered from injury?
will taylor 6'3'' 305 lbs still listed on roster. i thought he was gone
elijah wrotten 6'3'' 330 lbs lose 15-20 lbs please. the other one who could move to guard maybe
addison penn 6'3'' 300 lbs hope he is fully recovered and can play
my take is that the interior is solid if everybody plays up to their abilities. think either elijah or casey will get some play at guard due to numbers.
we have good numbers at tackle but its time for a couple of them to really step up (gelotte and perez i am looking at you). carson was a really good pick up in that he can either start or be a solid back up.
center is deep but as last year showed injuries can pile up and decimate depth.
these positions are per goduke after spring workouts
OT
casey holman 6'4'' 290 lbs starting rt or does he move inside to og where we are light in numbers?
john gelotte 6'7'' 295 lbs time to step up and take that left tackle spot
patrick leitten 6'7'' 270 lbs just to damned light but probably safer for him due to his knee injuries
peace addo 6'6'' 345 lbs will never get anything more than spot minutes i think due to weight
caleb perez 6'5'' 310 lbs great size and body. really want to see him earn time.
ron carr 6'5'' 275 lbs ugh three years in program and still 20-25 lbs to light
justin pickett 6'7'' 315 lbs true incoming frosh. will get a few games under his belt but keep redshirt
carson van lynn 6' 5.5'' 295 lbs already has starting experience in acc at rt. helpfull pick up
OG
jacob monk 6'3'' 310 lbs need a bounce back dominating year
graham barton 6'6'' 315 lbs was very good as a center fill in last year as a true frosh
maurice mcintyre 6'2'' 330lbs just seems a little large
kade parnelly 6'3'' 305 lbs just dont know because of competition level . great size and weight though
brian foley 6'4'' 314 lbs see above
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jack wohlabaugh 6'4'' 305 lbs will he be recovered from injury?
will taylor 6'3'' 305 lbs still listed on roster. i thought he was gone
elijah wrotten 6'3'' 330 lbs lose 15-20 lbs please. the other one who could move to guard maybe
addison penn 6'3'' 300 lbs hope he is fully recovered and can play
my take is that the interior is solid if everybody plays up to their abilities. think either elijah or casey will get some play at guard due to numbers.
we have good numbers at tackle but its time for a couple of them to really step up (gelotte and perez i am looking at you). carson was a really good pick up in that he can either start or be a solid back up.
center is deep but as last year showed injuries can pile up and decimate depth.
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Geez surf we certainly SHOULD be able to find the right mix w/so many candidates! Fingers crossed- thx so much for rundown! OFC
No way I see this happening, but FWIW:
www.si.com
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Arch Manning Begins to Schedule Visits
Duke's David Cutcliffe coached Peyton and Eli Manning in college. Now their nephew, Arch, is a top quarterback prospect and beginning to schedule college visits. Here's where the Blue Devils stand
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well the staff is still swinging. offer out to lb colby campbell, grad transfer prospect from presbyterian college
6' 0'' 225 lbs
2 time all american at this level
was on the NFL Draft Diamonds small college list
did not get drafted so maybe looking to take a step up in competition to prove himself to the nfl scouts?
would be a good get i think
6' 0'' 225 lbs
2 time all american at this level
was on the NFL Draft Diamonds small college list
did not get drafted so maybe looking to take a step up in competition to prove himself to the nfl scouts?
would be a good get i think
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The transfer market is fertile grounds for us to find a guy who has sat at a high level football school or mid level who wants to move up and has a chip on his shoulder. We need guys with attitudes that's for sure. After a 2 win season no one should feel they have a safe position on the team.
christian hood our freshman lb officially to the portal. he was not on the spring roster and this explains why
Thanks for scoop Surf!! Kid had 16 tackles on 80 snaps last year. Was weak on pass coverage, but I think Hood could have developed. Of course we don't develop kids much anymore.
Also I am thinking kicker Jack Driggers may be staying. No action on him in the portal and the updated profile indicates he's staying. Hasn't played much except for handling some kickoff duties in his career at Duke thus far. OFC
Giles-Harris was one of my favorite Duke players. Always seemed to play hard.
so i missed this but just read where Cut named the starting d-line to start the fall practice schedule with
de caleb oppan 6'4'' 235 lbs
dt dewayne carter 6'3'' 300 lbs
dt gary smith 6'2'' 320 lbs
de ben frye 6'3'' 255 lbs
really happy with the middle of our d-line but the ends are TINY. both those guys will have trouble setting the edge against the run i think. dont know how i feel about this. i find it disappointing that these guys beat out both ahmad craig and r j oben. i expected more from these two
de caleb oppan 6'4'' 235 lbs
dt dewayne carter 6'3'' 300 lbs
dt gary smith 6'2'' 320 lbs
de ben frye 6'3'' 255 lbs
really happy with the middle of our d-line but the ends are TINY. both those guys will have trouble setting the edge against the run i think. dont know how i feel about this. i find it disappointing that these guys beat out both ahmad craig and r j oben. i expected more from these two
Not exactly reason to be optimistic, is it? If the offense cannot sustain drives, by the second half of games our defense will be a defense in name only.
So Cut awards a scholarship to a 170 lb transfer running back from Furman who saw action only in one game last year for Furman and a Duke baseball player who evidently was not good enough to stay on that team. I don't get it. Hart, maybe you and Surf can rationalize giving away 2 valuable schollies with so little likely return.
DI I quit trying to rationalizing anything Cut did two years ago. I just really think the mans downfall began when Mack Brown announced his return to UNC. Cut knew Mack (great gift for gab and top notch recruiter) would take a big bite out of our recruiting success in-state unless he acted quickly. Cut hasnt kept up, and we've fallen further behind in recruiting. DI I truly think thats why you see such bizarre moves as you noted....Sadly its not going to change unless we bring in a "Spurrier type" w/energy and a new scheme. If we hire our new AD from in-house count on Cut getting to serve out the 2 more seasons on his contract.SMH...
You know, I think Cut's been influenced by Duke's anti-sports woke faculty.
You know DI thats HIGHLY PROBABLE! Seems as if hes just content to play out the string, w/no real concern about his legacy...
Nina King reported as the choice for athletics director. Really? If one wants to know why she is supposedly the leading candidate, one need only look at the make-up of the selection committee, which was almost completely bereft of anyone with meaningful football, basketball, or coaching knowledge or experience. I had hopes that a change in the AD would be beneficial to the primary revenue-producing sports, now not so much.
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King is pretty much who I've feared would take over
That seals it. Cut is safe for the last two seasons on his contract. Program is only going to be that harder to resurrect when he's finally gone!!! DANG!!!!! OFC
I think the downfall started at the end of the texas anm game where johhny football creamed us after we killed thenm in the first half. Lets face it. That season should've brought our recruiting to a whole new level, but cut was still getting the same high 2 star and low 3 star guys. Couple that with screwing entire seasons due to terrible scheduling and play calling. We never had a chance
Couple that nightmarish 2nd half ioliva w/the Miami LATERAL debacle two years later, and it further spelled ULTIMATE DOOM. OFC
Yes, but it turned out way worse than anyone could have expected. Losing to Wake, Syracuse, and other nobodies by 40+ points, and just wait until this year. To quote a famous football prognosticator: "Say good night the party's over."
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