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I think its very important the media has finally gotten behind the narrative of Cut's job security. This gets the attention of the administration, and makes it at least more difficult for them to ignore the football program.

Cut can certainly act. However he's fooling no one when he says hes not pondering his employment status for next year. OFC
 
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Yes sir! I really do hope that you make a Clawson level hire. I hope that it's this year, but if necessary, one more lost year is better than a bad selection. My dad graduated from Fordham. They were dreadful until Clawson. I thought that Wake might get better, but #10 in the nation.??? No way
 
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If the President of Duke University were a wonderful guy, and the university was free of scandal, but students stopped applying to the school and its prestige fell to be about the same as some community college, would the trustees keep him as president because he's a wonderful guy? I doubt it. Why should the football coach be any different?

The difference, of course, is perhaps the administration and trustees don't care. And that's the real problem.
 
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geddoughton23 said:
Yes sir! I really do hope that you make a Clawson level hire. I hope that it's this year, but if necessary, one more lost year is better than a bad selection. My dad graduated from Fordham. They were dreadful until Clawson. I thought that Wake might get better, but #10 in the nation.??? No way
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Wake has been quite a story. Clawson's hands down COY at this point in ACC. OFC
 
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If the President of Duke University were a wonderful guy, and the university was free of scandal, but students stopped applying to the school and its prestige fell to be about the same as some community college, would the trustees keep him as president because he's a wonderful guy? I doubt it. Why should the football coach be any different?

The difference, of course, is perhaps the administration and trustees don't care. And that's the real problem.
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BINGO LIFTEE, and from what I understand Dr.Price (Duke pres) doesnt care one iota about football....OFC
 
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He will when the next big conference shake-up occurs and Duke isn’t welcome in any major conference because our football program sucks.
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I think that Duke will sneak in on the positive side of expansion. Whether in Nevada or Finland or China, when I tell people that I'm from NC, they ask about Duke. Plus, the ADs from the fringe invitees will say let's take Duke for the basketball pedigree while counting on Duke as an easy win in football
 
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jeffrey236 said:
He will when the next big conference shake-up occurs and Duke isn’t welcome in any major conference because our football program sucks.
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geddoughton23 said:
L O FLI think that Duke will sneak in on the positive side of expansion. Whether in Nevada or Finland or China, when I tell people that I'm from NC, they ask about Duke. Plus, the ADs from the fringe invitees will say let's take Duke for the basketball pedigree while counting on Duke as an easy win in football
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Liftee and ged, you BOTH make good points. I admit I truly am concerned we become a "Villanova" type school- yes they do play football last time I checked. Wouldnt it be the ULTIMATE embarrassment if our powers that be let football virtually die in this state?

Conversely as ged noted, other ACC AD's, Presidents know Duke hoops is a huge moneymaker to hitch their wagons. Regardless, I would rather not be skating on thin ice.... OFC
 
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I think that Duke will sneak in on the positive side of expansion. Whether in Nevada or Finland or China, when I tell people that I'm from NC, they ask about Duke. Plus, the ADs from the fringe invitees will say let's take Duke for the basketball pedigree while counting on Duke as an easy win in football
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GED, I’m not sure I agree. Even if Harvard and Yale wanted to join a Power 5 conference, they’d never get admitted, and their academic brand is as good as it gets. At the end of the day, conference alignments are driven by TV revenue, and the biggest portion of that is football. Heck, few Duke fans watch Duke football, much less non-Duke fans other than those fans of the opposing team. UConn couldn’t get into a Power 5, and their BB programs have been pretty strong the last 25 years (excepting a few years under Kevin Ollie), with very loyal rabid fans who will follow them anywhere. Who do we cite as an example of someone we’d like to see join the ACC? It’s ECU, who has a strong football program, loyal fans and a weak basketball program (and not a household name academically). I’m not confident that our current football program would be acceptable to another major conference. And maybe that’s what President Price wants.
 
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jeffrey236 said:
GED, I’m not sure I agree. Even if Harvard and Yale wanted to join a Power 5 conference, they’d never get admitted, and their academic brand is as good as it gets. At the end of the day, conference alignments are driven by TV revenue, and the biggest portion of that is football. Heck, few Duke fans watch Duke football, much less non-Duke fans other than those fans of the opposing team. UConn couldn’t get into a Power 5, and their BB programs have been pretty strong the last 25 years (excepting a few years under Kevin Ollie), with very loyal rabid fans who will follow them anywhere. Who do we cite as an example of someone we’d like to see join the ACC? It’s ECU, who has a strong football program, loyal fans and a weak basketball program (and not a household name academically). I’m not confident that our current football program would be acceptable to another major conference. And maybe that’s what President Price wants.
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President Price indeed, is just what DUKE ATHLETICS does NOT need!!

OFC
 
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Does the Duke administration and Board of Trustees look at the investment in the Wallace Wade upgrades as a huge waste of money that they want to put behind them? Or is there someone who can convince them that football controls big time sports and conference decisions and they will be on the outside looking in if they continue to ignore football failure.

Remember Duke excels at virtually every non revenue sport and the money will dry up without football (and big conference) revenue. Someone is smart enough to see that, even if they hate football.

I'm hoping that a year from now Duke will have proven it cares about its football program and will have a new young aggressive coach who gives us hope and excitement again.
 
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Has anyone read a Cut presser where he admits his scheme does not work and needs to change? Sadly, in the latest example of Cut speak, he brags about his staff. Unbelievable. OFC
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Devtate, Pitt coach Pat Narduzzi is truly not worried about Duke:

"We've always come down there and won in the last second of the game on something. Defensively they're going to be primarily a four down, play a lot of man coverage, which will probably be pretty good for our offense if they're going to play man all day."

Can you imagine our dbs in a man to man scheme against Panther qb Kenny Pickett??? OFC
 
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Devtate, Pitt coach Pat Narduzzi is truly not worried about Duke:

"We've always come down there and won in the last second of the game on something. Defensively they're going to be primarily a four down, play a lot of man coverage, which will probably be pretty good for our offense if they're going to play man all day."

Can you imagine our dbs in a man to man scheme against panther qb Kenny Pickett??? OFC
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Nightmarish. OFC
 
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So tomorrow we go against Pitt. Will we see some fight in our boys or will there be further confirmation that Cut has lost his team? I’m expecting the latter. I don’t think there’s any doubt that he’s gone after this year, but will AD King and President Price make the inevitable happen before the season ends or wait until after the Miami game?
 
High noon gameday! We should see an angry Pitt team (6-2, 3-1) following their narrow 1st ACC loss to Miami invading Durham. One would think Duke (3-5, 0-4) could match that anger after 4 straight losses, but don't bet on it.

The ACC has plenty of talented qbs this year, and Panther qb Kenny Pickett is no exception. He's among the nation's best and is a sure fire NFL prospect. Unless the Duke secondary has magically improved in a week, expect Pickett to have his way against the Blue Devils.

Duke is back at home, where they've played and scored much better. However they have NOT played a team of Pitt's CALIBER at Wallace Wade.Also, key stat, Pat Narduzzi has owned Duke since taking the Panther job with a perfect 5-0 record vs Cut.

It all adds up to another blowout in my opinion, unless Duke keeps it close for a while since they're at home. The Panthers are a 21.5 pt favorite, and the over/under is 65. I will go with PITT, 56-14 and this would place Cut only 3 ACC L's away from a winless ACC year. The last time Duke was winless in ACC GAMES? 2007, Ted Roof's LAST YEAR as coach.....Hmmm......I am pulling for our players, not Cutcliffe.
Noon kick, ACC NETWORK-

OFC
 
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hart2chesson said:
High noon gameday! We should see an angry Pitt team (6-2, 3-1) following their narrow 1st ACC loss to Miami invading Durham. One would think Duke (3-5, 0-4) could match that anger after 4 straight losses, but don't bet on it.

The ACC has plenty of talented qbs this year, and Panther qb Kenny Pickett is no exception. He's among the nation's best and is a sure fire NFL prospect. Unless the Duke secondary has magically improved in a week, expect Pickett to have his way against the Blue Devils.

Duke is back at home, where they've played and scored much better. However they have NOT played a team of Pitt's CALIBER at Wallace Wade.Also, key stat, Pat Narduzzi has owned Duke since taking the Panther job with a perfect 5-0 record vs Cut.

It all adds up to another blowout in my opinion, unless Duke keeps it close for a while since they're at home. The Panthers are a 21.5 pt favorite, and the over/under is 65. I will go with PITT, 56-14 and this would place Cut only 3 ACC L's away from a winless ACC year. The last time Duke was winless in ACC GAMES? 2007, Ted Roof's LAST YEAR as coach.....Hmmm......I am pulling for our players, not Cutcliffe.
Noon kick, ACC NETWORK-

OFC
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I'm watching it now. Who knows. On even given Saturday. OFC
 
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I didn't watch a play of the Duke game. The 100 yard TD on the kickoff highlight was shown during the Wake-UNC game. Looked like a good effort from Duke . The Pitt QB is very good
 
jeffrey236 said:
So tomorrow we go against Pitt. Will we see some fight in our boys or will there be further confirmation that Cut has lost his team? I’m expecting the latter. I don’t think there’s any doubt that he’s gone after this year, but will AD King and President Price make the inevitable happen before the season ends or wait until after the Miami game?
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Jeff, it will be a season ending evaluation of the program ("like we do with all 27 Duke sports programs annually"). So it appears Cut is safe at least until after the Miami game. This is according to AD King in comments to the Raleigh Sports Club yesterday. King says she's "disappointed" with the product on the field, and has not publicly endorsed Cut for next season yet- THANKFULLY!!!
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I didn't watch a play of the Duke game. The 100 yard TD on the kickoff highlight was shown during the Wake-UNC game. Looked like a good effort from Duke . The Pitt QB is very good
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ged I flipped back between our game and your boys. The UNC-Wake contest was probably the SPECTATOR GAME OF THE DAY. UNC won because talent overcame coaching in this one.

Both have high powered offenses, but UNC had just THE SLIGHTEST EDGE ON DEFENSE, and that talent rose to the occasion WHEN IT HAD TO. HOME FIELD ALSO HUGE DIFFERENCE!

No doubt in my mind UNC SHOULD be 8-1 at this point, which would REALLY set your game with Pitt up as The Coastal Game of The Year! UNC needs to win that game, then hope Pitt LOSES ANOTHER to keep its flickering COASTAL chances alive.

OFC
 
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Duke showed up Saturday. They actually hung in the game for a half, well actually a little less than a half. I expected Pitt to come in angry after its loss to Miami, but instead it was more of a "trap" game prior to its Thursday nite ESPN Coastal encounter with UNC.

Yes we were more competitive, and actually made some big time plays. However the Blue Devils looked awful fumbling the ball away on the one, then getting stuffed on a goal line stand.

Nonetheless we had a pass play afterwards for a td, secured a safety, and ran a kick to the house for a 19-14 lead. Still there was plenty of time left in the half, and that Duke kickoff flipped the switch. It was like Pitt coach Pat Narduzzi told standout qb Kenny Pickett and co.(best qb in ACC IMHO) "GO TO WORK BOYS!" They did and HAMMERED Duke 40-10 the rest of the game.Hey even Narduzzi (6-0 vs Cut), cant get up for Duke anymore.

I hope Qb Gunnar Holmberg of Duke isnt seriously injured (went down late 1st half), but it would not have made a difference. Pickett of Pitt was on fire most of the game.(54 pts most rung up against us this year.) Please spare me any talk of moral victories in a 25 point loss. Despite a 19-14 lead, Duke couldn't even beat the 21.5 point spread.

Duke should lose to Va Tech at Blacksburg next week, then post another L at home to suddenly surging Miami. They have a chance in their Louisville game at home, but if thats the "Job Bowl" for Cut next year I cannot in good faith pull for Duke. Keeping Cut on the basis of ONE ACC WIN, would be an AWFUL FURTHER BLOW for our program. That game would mark the first time in 57 yrs I pulled against Duke. Btw, after yesterday's loss, Cut is now 0-15 vs Narduzzi, Bronco Mendenhall, and Mack Brown.
He's lost 4 straight to Clawson, 0-2 vs Collins (Ga Tech), and 1-4 vs Fuente at Va Tech. #CutMustGo

PS- Congrats to Mataeo Durant of Duke for cracking the 1000 yard rushing barrier for the year. Really has never given up despite playing on a very poorly coached fb team. OFC
 
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hart2chesson said:
Smash buddy, its really our only long term solution to regaining a competitive program. Cut and the rest of "The Keystone Kops" must GO! OFC
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You know, it is dumbfounding to me that South Carolina's first year HC, Shane Beamer, who had no experience as an HC or even as an OC or a DC, could crush the Gators 40-17. And yet Cut cannot win a game in the ACC. A truly sobering stat is that in Duke's 5 ACC games so far, we have been outscored 216-70. OFC
 
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Devilinside said:
You know, it is dumbfounding to me that South Carolina's first year HC, Shane Beamer, who had no experience as an HC or even as an OC or a DC, could crush the Gators 40-17. And yet Cut cannot win a game in the ACC. A truly sobering stat is that in Duke's 5 ACC games so far, we have been outscored 216-70. OFC
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Extremely strong analogy DI. EVEN MORE SOBERING are the EMBARRASSING NUMBERS on the ROAD in ACC PLAY: 131-14. SMH.....No OTHER P5 coach would still be on sidelines after the disastrous three year slide. OFC
 
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I suspect the administration has long since made up its mind what to do about Cut. Either it is embarrassed by Duke's incompetence being the worst team in a mediocre conference, or it is perfectly happy to have a nice coach who says all the right things and get hammered every Saturday. Apparently we aren't going to find out during the season but we should find out very quickly at the end of the season.
 
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jeffrey236 said:
“There were some positive things there, and we are looking for the positive things to build on”. This from Cut’s post-game interview. Nice to know that after 9 games this year, we’re going to be building on some positive things…Is it too late to think about making the CFP?
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How can you build on awful tackling, giving up multiple "explosives", non-existent pass defense, predictable play-calling, no containment on the ends, and the list goes on? OFC
 
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Liftee said:
I suspect the administration has long since made up its mind what to do about Cut. Either it is embarrassed by Duke's incompetence being the worst team in a mediocre conference, or it is perfectly happy to have a nice coach who says all the right things and get hammered every Saturday. Apparently we aren't going to find out during the season but we should find out very quickly at the end of the season.
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Agree.
 
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Devilinside said:
You know, it is dumbfounding to me that South Carolina's first year HC, Shane Beamer, who had no experience as an HC or even as an OC or a DC, could crush the Gators 40-17. And yet Cut cannot win a game in the ACC. A truly sobering stat is that in Duke's 5 ACC games so far, we have been outscored 216-70. OFC
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A shocking result
 
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In other, more positive news, Daniel Jones had a solid game for the Giants, no mistakes and some nice throws. But most importantly, at the end of the game, there was a nice shot of Daniel, Matt Skura and Dan Helm meeting on the field, shaking hands and laughing. No mention of who they are or why they were talking but the camera man knew.

That may be the highlight for Duke football this season.
 
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Liftee said:
In other, more positive news, Daniel Jones had a solid game for the Giants, no mistakes and some nice throws. But most importantly, at the end of the game, there was a nice shot of Daniel, Matt Skura and Dan Helm meeting on the field, shaking hands and laughing. No mention of who they are or why they were talking but the camera man knew.

That may be the highlight for Duke football this season.
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That was a nice moment. Jones is settling in as a starter. He runs extremely well. My only fault with the Giants today is that they didn't use WR Kedarius Toney. I have him stashed on my Fantasy bench
 
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