I can’t disagree with anything you said. This team is growing and learning and it’s going to be an interesting season. They’ll be tough to beat in March.
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I can’t disagree with anything you said. This team is growing and learning and it’s going to be an interesting season. They’ll be tough to beat in March.
Thanks GillJET. This team has flaws, but the strengths are good enough to overcome a game like this. There’s some serious work to be done on the offensive end if we’re going to play deep into March.
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We have everything you need this week to get over the Stephen F. Austin loss and move on to the next play to Michigan State. We also have overreactions, what's more likely, VT preview and Winthrop analysis. It's a big week for Duke so let us get you through it! Let's Go Duke!
We have everything you need this week to get over the Stephen F. Austin loss and move on to the next play to Michigan State. We also have overreactions, what's more likely, VT preview and Winthrop analysis. It's a big week for Duke so let us get you through it! Let's Go Duke!
Great episode, guys. I still need to catch up on the old ones.
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My unsolicited notes while listening to the show:
I hadn’t realized the FT disparity in makes to misses were that different between the halfs. Makes it even more frustrating knowing they were capable of winning the game if they just played marginally better in just one facet of the game.
I miss the days of watching games where 5 guys played great at the same time.
Agree that this wasn’t the biggest upset in history. I don’t think a regular season game will ever qualify for that title. Maybe if last year’s team lost to a SFA type team 15 games into the season it would be close, but only bc of all the media hype last year’s team had.
AOC..... I don’t think he’ll become a crucial part of the offense on an every game basis, but we’re going to need him to go off for 15-20 pts a few times. I’m holding out hope that happens. He wouldn’t be the first player to frustrate the hell out of Duke fans for a majority of his career only to come on late and earn redemption. We need him as a complimentary scorer that does it efficiently. This team definitely needs that “next man up” on offense when things aren’t going well early on. AOC can be that guy.
No way Ques would be an improvement over Carey. No disrespect to Ques. The bigger question is what would this team look like if Javin had gone pro and Ques had stayed? I think Ques fits this team’s needs better. I’d put Ques in the AOC category of someone that could go off for 15-20 pts a few times and be the complimentary type player on offense this team needs.
It’s a lot easier to have high assists and low turnovers when you’re passing to Zion and RJ re: Tre. Throw it within 10’ of Zion and he’ll get the ball.
I’ll definitely buy Duke getting back to #1 over falling out of the top 25.
I hope timo is right that AOC gets the start and I hope AOC has a Syracuse type game, but I think timo’s game prediction is wrong.
I think Duke beats Michigan St., this board gets back on track, then Duke loses to VT and the board goes back into a meltdown. Then I’ll open up my bipolar medicine shop on the board and make a killing.
Great show, fellas!
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My unsolicited notes while listening to the show:
I hadn’t realized the FT disparity in makes to misses were that different between the halfs. Makes it even more frustrating knowing they were capable of winning the game if they just played marginally better in just one facet of the game.
I miss the days of watching games where 5 guys played great at the same time.
Agree that this wasn’t the biggest upset in history. I don’t think a regular season game will ever qualify for that title. Maybe if last year’s team lost to a SFA type team 15 games into the season it would be close, but only bc of all the media hype last year’s team had.
AOC..... I don’t think he’ll become a crucial part of the offense on an every game basis, but we’re going to need him to go off for 15-20 pts a few times. I’m holding out hope that happens. He wouldn’t be the first player to frustrate the hell out of Duke fans for a majority of his career only to come on late and earn redemption. We need him as a complimentary scorer that does it efficiently. This team definitely needs that “next man up” on offense when things aren’t going well early on. AOC can be that guy.
No way Ques would be an improvement over Carey. No disrespect to Ques. The bigger question is what would this team look like if Javin had gone pro and Ques had stayed? I think Ques fits this team’s needs better. I’d put Ques in the AOC category of someone that could go off for 15-20 pts a few times and be the complimentary type player on offense this team needs.
It’s a lot easier to have high assists and low turnovers when you’re passing to Zion and RJ re: Tre. Throw it within 10’ of Zion and he’ll get the ball.
I’ll definitely buy Duke getting back to #1 over falling out of the top 25.
I hope timo is right that AOC gets the start and I hope AOC has a Syracuse type game, but I think timo’s game prediction is wrong.
I think Duke beats Michigan St., this board gets back on track, then Duke loses to VT and the board goes back into a meltdown. Then I’ll open up my bipolar medicine shop on the board and make a killing.
Great show, fellas!
Love the analysis. I’d love for there to be more discussion on this thread!
I think you’re right about Alex, but I just really hope he gets it together. K always talks about having a strong face, and Alex has really only shown that strong face a few times this season and all he has in front of him is opportunity.
I’d be willing to bet he wouldn’t need to go 5-6 from 3 or anything to secure a decent role on this squad. I’d guarantee if he was consistently engaged, he would be this team’s true 6th man. Much like we’ve mentioned with Ques in the past, he’s not always engaged.
For those of you who would like the iTunes link-
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/5-point-play-podcast/id1450960226?i=1000458497712
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/5-point-play-podcast/id1450960226?i=1000458497712
Great breakdown and for giving your thoughts on our predictions and takeaways. I think it’s hard for K to throw Joey (who has a lot of confidence) into the fire tonight as a starter. I think this is where Alex can have an opportunity. Most likely I’m wrong- Tre, Moore, Jack, Hurt and Vernon will be the starters. But i like to think this would be a good opportunity for someone who’s done it before @Cuse.
The pass I’ll give Joey here is that he is a tough kid. Like you mentioned OTPC, he brings an infectious energy and fire. If any kid isn’t scared of this moment, I bet it’s him.
I agree, but I won’t be surprised if the leashes on AOC and Joey will be short tonight given the environment and quality of the opponent. They’ll get good minutes if they play hard and perform from the get go, but, if not, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them benched quickly and not return. Then I’d go with @timo0402’s previously mentioned potential starting lineup with dashes of Goldwire and Javin for defense/short rests for the starters.
Finally got through the most recent episode, great stuff!
I was most intrigued with the Bolden discussion. IMO Bolden would be a MASSIVE upgrade over Javin. We have been scouted, coaches know that we do not have an elite rim protector out there (Vernon is better than expected, but still not elite) and teams are shooting around the rim at an insane elite percentage against us.
Bolden would really help with our rim protection, Javin does not. Honestly all Javin has done this season on defense is foul.
I was most intrigued with the Bolden discussion. IMO Bolden would be a MASSIVE upgrade over Javin. We have been scouted, coaches know that we do not have an elite rim protector out there (Vernon is better than expected, but still not elite) and teams are shooting around the rim at an insane elite percentage against us.
Bolden would really help with our rim protection, Javin does not. Honestly all Javin has done this season on defense is foul.
To be fair to Javin, he takes ownership of his fouls and mistakes. Pats his chest and puts his hand up, “sorry fellas”.
We’re not paying you two the big bucks to take weeks off.
I could have sworn i was sick as a dog and still did a podcast on Tuesday.. @dukehokie drop the tape bruh.We’re not paying you two the big bucks to take weeks off.
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TK & AC recap the huge wins at MSU and VT and give you their Christmas wishlist for the season. Plus the overreactions of the week and previews of the UNC Killers and Brown. Go Duke!!
TK & AC recap the huge wins at MSU and VT and give you their Christmas wishlist for the season. Plus the overreactions of the week and previews of the UNC Killers and Brown. Go Duke!!
And here’s the iTunes link for those who would like-
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/5-point-play-podcast/id1450960226?i=1000459940313
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/5-point-play-podcast/id1450960226?i=1000459940313
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It's been a little break but we're back! A big thank you this week to @dukiejay for joining us on the podcast! This week we get you set for the upcoming ACC schedule. We also recap the two wins against Wofford and Brown, and of course overreactions from the week. Let's Go Duke!!!
It's been a little break but we're back! A big thank you this week to @dukiejay for joining us on the podcast! This week we get you set for the upcoming ACC schedule. We also recap the two wins against Wofford and Brown, and of course overreactions from the week. Let's Go Duke!!!
For those who want the iTunes link to ring in the new year/ACC season- here @dukiejay and @dukehokie relentlessly attack me-
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/5-point-play-podcast/id1450960226
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/5-point-play-podcast/id1450960226
Really enjoyed that episode today while changing my oil. @dukiejay bringing the flashbacks left and right. You guys really do a great job. I hope you realize you are adding value to peoples' days.
Thanks for having me on, fellas. Always a fun time. Let me apologize, though, for the Midwestern accent.
What people might not know, when I gave Javin some props I was completely unaware that Timo had just tore him down in the previous segment.
You two do a really nice job....very good listen every time.
What people might not know, when I gave Javin some props I was completely unaware that Timo had just tore him down in the previous segment.
You two do a really nice job....very good listen every time.
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Like i said, @dukiejay ans @dukehokie ripped me to shreds. But we all know my takes are more accurate.Thanks for having me on, fellas. Always a fun time. Let me apologize, though, for the Midwestern accent.
What people might not know, when I gave Javin some props I was completely unaware that Timo had just tore him down in the previous segment.
You two do a really nice job....very good listen every time.
Great discussion on Vern and Joey, as far as two guys who, to varying degrees, have really exceeded expectations.
Is it possible that even to this point Vern is underrated!?
He absolutely is. Anything less than consideration for First Team AA (if he continues or betters this pace) is unacceptable. Name a better center in the nation...I’ll wait.
Really appreciate that feedback Denver. Even if only 2 people listened we’d still do it. It’s a good time.
Look at a game like yesterday. We didn’t need anything more than the 9/9 he gave us. Yet if we did, we could call on him anytime we need.
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With two HUGE wins under their belt, the Duke squad continues to roll! TK & AC recap the two wins, preview the upcoming matchups with GT and Wake, discuss the wild ACC weekend and your favorite, a very in depth overreaction segment. You can't miss this episode and the great discussion regarding Jordan Goldwire. Let's Go Duke!
Great episode guys. I missed the two prior just because of the hectic nature of the holidays.
I do want to say that I liked hearing Bilas's voice at the beginning. For all the criticism he gets here, it seems like he's done nothing but gush over Duke the last 3 or 4 times he's done a Duke game.
I really liked the Goldwire discussion and about how his defense disrupts even if he doesn't actually get a turnover.
I also liked the overreaction segment about the high/low and the number of weapons. I think that is what is different about this team. The last few years have seen us rely on 2 guys, with maybe a 3rd contributing as scorers. That worked in 2010, but hasn't recently. Now you have to account for the shooting of Hurt, Baker, AOC, and even Stanley, Goldwire, and Tre. Hurt can get inside with Carey and Javin. Wendell can streak to the hoop and Jack can out-tough anyone and hit a shot from time to time. I think that's what's special here, at least 6 different guys can be the leading scorer every night.
Keep up the great work guys.
I do want to say that I liked hearing Bilas's voice at the beginning. For all the criticism he gets here, it seems like he's done nothing but gush over Duke the last 3 or 4 times he's done a Duke game.
I really liked the Goldwire discussion and about how his defense disrupts even if he doesn't actually get a turnover.
I also liked the overreaction segment about the high/low and the number of weapons. I think that is what is different about this team. The last few years have seen us rely on 2 guys, with maybe a 3rd contributing as scorers. That worked in 2010, but hasn't recently. Now you have to account for the shooting of Hurt, Baker, AOC, and even Stanley, Goldwire, and Tre. Hurt can get inside with Carey and Javin. Wendell can streak to the hoop and Jack can out-tough anyone and hit a shot from time to time. I think that's what's special here, at least 6 different guys can be the leading scorer every night.
Keep up the great work guys.
Thanks dbav. The Goldwire discussion has been one of my favorites and I am just becoming more and more of a Goldwire fan every game.
Thanks dbav! Goldwire proved it’s going to be tough to keep him off the floor tonight. Only made one bad decision tonight and those couple missed FTs but he has played fantastic. He and Tre make the opposing ball handlers lives a living hell. So fun to watch them. They had a tremendous key and seem less switch at the very end to not allow a 3. I love what I’m seeing between those two guys.
They really did. They’re starting to be so in sync with each other. Switches, doubles, everything. It’s like they’re one mind on D. That’s imperative to excellent defense.
I put it on Twitter, but I think it’s possible we have the two best defensive guards in the nation on the same squad. That’s a scary prospect.
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TK & AC discuss the prospects of 2019-2020 Duke beating last year's historically good squad. It's a great discussion you won't want to miss. Plus recaps of GT and Wake and previews of a big week for Duke @Clemson and home against Louisville. Just in time for the Clemson game. Go Duke!
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