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Did Duke recruit Marcus Bagley at all? *Marvin’s Brother*

I think our moderators, especially, should respect the opinions of those with whom they disagree, even when they may not like them. Moderators are in a position of trust which they violate by trying to prove a point by belittling another poster and ridiculing the poster and his posts, instead of merely disagreeing with the poster and making a sound argument for one's own position and leaving it at that. Sarcastic disrespectful posts often reflect arrogance, condescension, closed mindedness, absence of self-control, and, maybe, even narcissism. This coming from a poster (me) who has in the past been guilty of making such thoughtless posts. I do not agree with Mac9192 on Bagley. However, he presented his opinion respectfully, did not try to win any points by belittling dukehokie, and presented what he believes to be adequate support for his opinion. Inferring that someone is a fool or a dope for thinking that way or because of his writing style is just not right. OFC

I also “respectfully” disagreed and he came back with his usual BS, least of all claiming if we want to slobber all over someone. The disrespect was started by the person you’re defending.

If you want to give this mod thing more weight than it’s worth, by all means please do, but don’t come chastise me. Just like all of you can bring your noise, I can do the same. I will gladly relinquish my ability to click ban, lock and delete, if it means I get to throw out the trash when need be.

The curtain is pulled back. I don’t give a damn if you respect me as a mod. This is still OUR board as Duke fans, and when someone pops off with some bullshit, I’ll defend my team. Duke fan, UNC fan, Kentucky fan. Fanhood be damned. Everybody can get it.
 
I also “respectfully” disagreed and he came back with his usual BS, least of all claiming if we want to slobber all over someone. The disrespect was started by the person you’re defending.

If you want to give this mod thing more weight than it’s worth, by all means please do, but don’t come chastise me. Just like all of you can bring your noise, I can do the same. I will gladly relinquish my ability to click ban, lock and delete, if it means I get to throw out the trash when need be.

The curtain is pulled back. I don’t give a damn if you respect me as a mod. This is still OUR board as Duke fans, and when someone pops off with some bullshit, I’ll defend my team. Duke fan, UNC fan, Kentucky fan. Fanhood be damned. Everybody can get it.


Thank you......if I want to hear our guys trashed, I have rupp rafters for that
 
Dear lord what a mess of a thread.

nice job mods for getting this so far off from what it was suppose to be about. Sorry the three of you got butt hurt over different opinions.. funny you have the power to delete folks posts in other threads that get derailed but for some reason this one has went on and on.

Hokie and Timo acting like bagley pays their bills good grief
 
Thank you......if I want to hear our guys trashed, I have rupp rafters for that

nobody’s getting trashed here. There is actually stuff to this and some folks know things they don’t want to share (not me btw) but they do

I enjoyed bagley at times I was actually being funny with the bagley$ post but people can have different opinions on him
 
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nobody’s getting trashed here. There is actually stuff to this and some folks know things they don’t want to share (not me btw) but they do

I enjoyed bagley at times I was actually being funny with the bagley$ post but people can have different opinions on him


I was really referring more to the game threads when people say a player sucks or brings nothing or K just rolls it out there. A little off best from the original topic, but I’ll stand by what I said about Bags. I would be thrilled to have him at the 5 next year!
 
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I also “respectfully” disagreed and he came back with his usual BS, least of all claiming if we want to slobber all over someone. The disrespect was started by the person you’re defending.

If you want to give this mod thing more weight than it’s worth, by all means please do, but don’t come chastise me. Just like all of you can bring your noise, I can do the same. I will gladly relinquish my ability to click ban, lock and delete, if it means I get to throw out the trash when need be.

The curtain is pulled back. I don’t give a damn if you respect me as a mod. This is still OUR board as Duke fans, and when someone pops off with some bullshit, I’ll defend my team. Duke fan, UNC fan, Kentucky fan. Fanhood be damned. Everybody can get it.
I edited my comment. But, it was too late. You were responding to it while I was correcting myself. Can’t deny that, but I thought better of it.
But don’t sit there and say what some of what Devil said isn’t true. Then you throw out some childish comment about me, Hart, and Pisgah being a group. Sorry, but did you really go there? That’s what this board is. People align with others. That’s just the way it is. Some won’t get a like just because of who they are, some will get likes cause they are “friends.”
Very few will debate you, Timo and Dukiejay, because you’re mods. It’s the title you wear.
I didn’t say anything to Timo. We had a respectful exchange then he come in with a “Thats the real Mac.” You are as guilty of what you cry foul about as I have been.
 
Dear lord what a mess of a thread.

nice job mods for getting this so far off from what it was suppose to be about. Sorry the three of you got butt hurt over different opinions.. funny you have the power to delete folks posts in other threads that get derailed but for some reason this one has went on and on.

Hokie and Timo acting like bagley pays their bills good grief

Don’t even start dude. You don’t want to do it.
 
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Dear lord what a mess of a thread.

nice job mods for getting this so far off from what it was suppose to be about. Sorry the three of you got butt hurt over different opinions.. funny you have the power to delete folks posts in other threads that get derailed but for some reason this one has went on and on.

Hokie and Timo acting like bagley pays their bills good grief

Go back to the first page, how did this “mess of a thread” start??
Seems to me like it went off the rails when people (with no factual evidence, no link, nothing other than disproven comments) made some negative comments about a former Duke player.
That’s just how I see it though.

It’s also funny how Bag$ gets thrown out. If we’re all being honest, our pride and joy and favorite son Zion has the most questions/rumors surrounding his recruitment and possibly what the family asked for from other schools. But I’m not gonna throw out $ion everytime I get the chance because that’s just idiotic.
 
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I was really referring more to the game threads when people say a player sucks or brings nothing or K just rolls it out there. A little off best from the original topic, but I’ll stand by what I said about Bags. I would be thrilled to have him at the 5 next year!

I don’t disagree either. My prob was the way he came in and carter was pretty much shoved to the back burner when I would have loved to have him as the star
 
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I edited my comment. But, it was too late. You were responding to it while I was correcting myself. Can’t deny that, but I thought better of it.
But don’t sit there and say what some of what Devil said isn’t true. Then you throw out some childish comment about me, Hart, and Pisgah being a group. Sorry, but did you really go there? That’s what this board is. People align with others. That’s just the way it is. Some won’t get a like just because of who they are, some will get likes cause they are “friends.”
Very few will debate you, Timo and Dukiejay, because you’re mods. It’s the title you wear.
I didn’t say anything to Timo. We had a respectful exchange then he come in with a “Thats the real Mac.” You are as guilty of what you cry foul about as I have been.

You brought the disrespect first sir. Don’t play the “I was editing it” game. Sorry, you posted it and got caught. And I didn’t even have to use my mighty mod powers.

Don’t cry foul on the group shit cause you’re the first one to call out the “group that defends K and has blue glasses.”

Keep on throwing your stones and back pedaling. This act of yours and @pisgah101 and @hart2chesson and quite a few others on here is getting old. I will absolutely start exposing if you want.
 
Don’t even start dude. You don’t want to do it.
Go back to the first page, how did this “mess of a thread” start??
Seems to me like it went off the rails when people (with no factual evidence, no link, nothing other than disproven comments) made some negative comments about a former Duke player.
That’s just how I see it though.

lol people do that in every thread and it either locks up or corrects itself
 
I don’t disagree either. My prob was the way he came in and carter was pretty much shoved to the back burner when I would have loved to have him as the star


I loved Carter too. I made the comment a couple times that I would love to have seen how it would have worked if we played carter and bags at the same position and rotated them in and and out to keep them both fresh. And that I thought that might also let Duval play more to his strength. Oh well, we’ll never know now
 
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okay and if I could lock threads this one would be just don’t live by a different standard

I will gladly give you my mod status. I don’t want it, especially if I can’t defend myself and my team.
 
go where? You being an A-hole in this thread or over the past year? We can go wherever you want my friend

We’re not friends. You’ve been called on being an ass more than once yourself. If it’s time for me to be an asshole, then you guys got it. Congrats.
 
I think our moderators, especially, should respect the opinions of those with whom they disagree, even when they may not like them. Moderators are in a position of trust which they violate by trying to prove a point by belittling another poster and ridiculing the poster and his posts, instead of merely disagreeing with the poster and making a sound argument for one's own position and leaving it at that. Sarcastic disrespectful posts often reflect arrogance, condescension, closed mindedness, absence of self-control, and, maybe, even narcissism. This coming from a poster (me) who has in the past been guilty of making such thoughtless posts. I do not agree with Mac9192 on Bagley. However, he presented his opinion respectfully, did not try to win any points by belittling dukehokie, and presented what he believes to be adequate support for his opinion. Inferring that someone is a fool or a dope for thinking that way or because of his writing style is just not right. OFC

Well said and thought out DI. Showed a lot of bravado. Here's to you sir! OFC
 
lol that’s the biggest problem here everything’s so personal to people it’s a freaking ball team and a player that is making millions right now and we’re discussing his impact on a team 3 seasons ago.

Right Pisgah, and DI.....Why must things get so personal I wonder. This is not an "act," the mods position is merely challenged, and I see nothing wrong with it....OFC
 
We’re not friends. You’ve been called on being an ass more than once yourself. If it’s time for me to be an asshole, then you guys got it. Congrats.

Oh I never thought we were friends. I’ve seen that thoroughly since last year when you got pissed off at me and it’s carried on. I really couldn’t care less though. I don’t hold a grudge against any poster and once this thread ends I’ll be fine talking other stuff with everybody on here and never give it a thought. That’s the thing though I can argue with someone on this one and love their content on another, (most) everyone on here offers great stuff on different areas and I love it

anyway done with this thread unless you call me out again! Weird you call me, Mac, Hart a “group” I don’t see it we do agree on a lot but I could name other posters that I agree with a lot on too
 
Right Pisgah, and DI.....Why must things get so personal I wonder. This is not an "act," the mods position is merely challenged, and I see nothing wrong with it....OFC

Nobody’s position is challenged. There is no position, that’s the funniest part. I have a different drop down than you. That’s it. What a waste of space...
 
Oh I never thought we were friends. I’ve seen that thoroughly since last year when you got pissed off at me and it’s carried on. I really couldn’t care less though. I don’t hold a grudge against any poster and once this thread ends I’ll be fine talking other stuff with everybody on here and never give it a thought. That’s the thing though I can argue with someone on this one and love their content on another, (most) everyone on here offers great stuff on different areas and I love it

anyway done with this thread unless you call me out again! Weird you call me, Mac, Hart a “group” I don’t see it we do agree on a lot but I could name other posters that I agree with a lot on too

Cool. I’m sure your name will pop up again.
 
You brought the disrespect first sir. Don’t play the “I was editing it” game. Sorry, you posted it and got caught. And I didn’t even have to use my mighty mod powers.

Don’t cry foul on the group shit cause you’re the first one to call out the “group that defends K and has blue glasses.”

Keep on throwing your stones and back pedaling. This act of yours and @pisgah101 and @hart2chesson and quite a few others on here is getting old. I will absolutely start exposing if you want.
Backpedaling? Are you serious. I admitted I made a mistake, thought better of what I’d said, but didn’t catch it quick enough. But me admitting it isn’t enough to you. I’ll debate you anytime, anywhere.
Please, big boy, please, have me on your mod cast, I mean podcast.
 
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It’s a big reason why I just float in and out. If you oppose a select few here they either don’t have a legit response and/or say “you’re aggressive/negative/personal”.

The joys of the internet.

Lastly, pulling the mod card? That was like when I worked as a bouncer/security screaming “I’m a bouncer” before opening a door with someone’s head. Made little sense. :)
 
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Ps if I’m choosing between Marvin and Zion, it’s a no brainer regardless of core team structure.
 
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Holy smokes!!! I went away for an hour and wow!!

1. This is good for the board, get some people jacked up!

2. @pisgah101 i love you, i really do. The whole comments about deleting threads or whatever. It’s not easy and i would never delete threads or comments i disagree with about duke. When it becomes political (even when some of your comments i may or may not agree with) i need to delete them. That’s the direction we were given by DI. So let’s move off of that talking point.

3. Wow @dukehokie i haven’t seen you this lit up since our last podcast (shameful plug for those who don’t think we disagree)

4. Back to the topic at hand. I don’t think I’ve been disrespectful other than, and I’ll admit i was out of line for saying “there the real @Mac9192 ” that was my bad. But i think, and coming from what i know about that team from folks in the program, putting the blame on bagley for the things going on with that team is just misinformed. I’m fine with differing opinions even when you’re wrong but saying he was the chemistry issue (my words not Macs) is just not true. I could say the same, and have, about the folks who say Austin was the issue on the 2012 squad. The issue wasn’t him. It was miles and seth.
 
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Backpedaling? Are you serious. I admitted I made a mistake, thought better of what I’d said, but didn’t catch it quick enough. But me admitting it isn’t enough to you. I’ll debate you anytime, anywhere.
Please, big boy, please, have me on your mod cast, I mean podcast.

Now that would make the ratings SOAR!!!

OFC
 
Tend to agree a bit with the mods need to be better concept. As uncle Ben said, with great power comes great responsibility. Well, with a little responsibility, comes a little extra responsibility. In the end, I appreciate the solid job the mods on this board do.
As for Bagley, I have often thought he was a victim of profiling. Changed schools a bunch, didn't "look" like a Duke kid (hair, chin scruff), very involved family, superstar talent that we didnt think we initially had a chance with, one and done. In reality, he was an A student and K said his family was great, and never had any discipline problems while at Duke.
In the end, I think Marvin was a true Dukie but looked more like a guy we expected to see on 91 UNLV, which had a much worse rep than they deserved.
 
Holy smokes!!! I went away for an hour and wow!!

1. This is good for the board, get some people jacked up!

2. @pisgah101 i love you, i really do. The whole comments about deleting threads or whatever. It’s not easy and i would never delete threads or comments i disagree with about duke. When it becomes political (even when some of your comments i may or may not agree with) i need to delete them. That’s the direction we were given by DI. So let’s move off of that talking point.

3. Wow @dukehokie i haven’t seen you this lit up since our last podcast (shameful plug for those who don’t think we disagree)

4. Back to the topic at hand. I don’t think I’ve been disrespectful other than, and I’ll admit i was out of line for saying “there the real @Mac9192 ” that was my bad. But i think, and coming from what i know about that team from folks in the program, putting the blame on bagley for the things going on with that team is just misinformed. I’m fine with differing opinions even when you’re wrong but saying he was the chemistry issue (my words not Macs) is just not true. I could say the same, and have, about the folks who say Austin was the issue on the 2012 squad. The issue wasn’t him. It was miles and seth.
Fair enough Timo. I realize I’m in the minority on Bagley. I’m fine with it though. I laid out my reasons. They are just my opinions. I go back to the timing of his signing, and I may be wrong, but I thought he was cleared by the NCAA when the team would have been down in the Dominican. Then, in my opinion, I thought we played better team ball in his absence. We went 5-0, 6-0 if you count Michigan State, without him.
Believe it or not, my views are not a vendetta against Bagley, as much as they are with my believing we had better chemistry when he didn’t play.
Offensively, he’s at the top of the list of Duke players. To me, Carter was a more rounded player, but doesn’t get the credit.
 
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Quarantine has gotten the best of us. We really need sports and normal life back. It’s making us find entertainment in arguments amongst ourselves while trying to enjoy our morning coffee. Please go away.

Sincerly,

a Marvin Bagley Supporter
 
Wow, the only thing that chaps my ass about the 2018 season is, other than G's shot rolling out, that.....IT WAS A CHARGE. Never one to complain all that much about refs costing us a game. But, the '04 Final Four against UCONN and that '18 Elite Eight against Kansas are two that get me. Oh and we were definitely a better team with Marvin.
 
I think our moderators, especially, should respect the opinions of those with whom they disagree, even when they may not like them. Moderators are in a position of trust which they violate by trying to prove a point by belittling another poster and ridiculing the poster and his posts, instead of merely disagreeing with the poster and making a sound argument for one's own position and leaving it at that. Sarcastic disrespectful posts often reflect arrogance, condescension, closed mindedness, absence of self-control, and, maybe, even narcissism. This coming from a poster (me) who has in the past been guilty of making such thoughtless posts. I do not agree with Mac9192 on Bagley. However, he presented his opinion respectfully, did not try to win any points by belittling dukehokie, and presented what he believes to be adequate support for his opinion. Inferring that someone is a fool or a dope for thinking that way or because of his writing style is just not right. OFC

I don’t disagree. But this is a debate that’s been had over and over and over on this board. Posts #7 and #8 in this thread got it started. They knew what they were doing. From there, it got out of control and I don’t think Hokie would deny it.
 
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