Im with Show. Youre either all in or all out. Doesn't mean I want anything bad to happen to him. But it also doesn't mean I wont smile a little when he has a bad game or when, basketball gods willing, the Terps have a down year. Once hes not a Terp anymore then thats fine. Heck, I even found myself cheering for Grievous Vasquez a few times in the NBA playoffs, and I never though that would happen.
Sulaimon to Maryland -- it's offcial....
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I have been frustrated to no end with Sheed for the last 2 years. I was almost glad he was dismissed and think the dismissal made our team better. Another great Coaching move by K I think. Though I really don't know if he had much of a choice in the matter. So with that said and with his decision to go to Maryland, I don't really care if he wins a game next year. After his freshman year I really thought he was going to be one of my all time favorites at Duke. And I still thought that after a very disappointing sophomore campaign. I just loved his game. I was very disappointed in the way he ended things at Duke and let his teammates down. However like a few others have said I do like how he has handled himself after the dismissal and he has left me with some great memories. I'm not pulling for UM and I really don't care if they do good or not but if Maryland does end up doing well and Sheed has a good year im not going to be mad at him. He did what was best for him
I agree, and will specify that the dismissal itself wasn't some magical cure-all; it was what K and the team (led by Quinn) did next that made the team better. It was a great coaching move b/c it had to be done and K did it w/o worrying about how the rest of the season would work out. He worried about that in its place, after the dismissal, and for keeping things in the right sequence, increased the likelihood of success.
As for K's choice, Sheed's recent (and first) public comments on this make me think the sexual assault allegation was not as big a factor and K's hand was not forced by politics.
I hear you, but I feel a little bit like I did about Elliot Williams: winning the title made his departure just so much water under the bridge, and something I can very, very easily just let go of. W/ Sheed, the Maryland thing is really the only thing left that sticks in my craw.
I have a lot of respect for Rasheed. It's not easy for anyone to admit they were wrong, they made mistakes, they were stupid, they had an immature attitude; etc. There are billionaire CEOs that can't even admit they were wrong and made a mistake. The fact that he recognozes he was in the wrong and then publically admitted to his faults and is committed to becoming better, that's admirable, most adults can't even admit to their faults to their own family and friends let alone the rest of the world. I don't care about Maryland, this is the first time in over a decade they have been a contender
Elliot Williams was a completely different situation. His mom was sick. I hated seeing him go, but that was totally understandable. Same thing happened with Brandon Connette in football this past season, and we missed him dearly.
Mark....that wasn't the sole reason Elliot left. His mom being sick played a part but there were other factors too. Duke, and specifically K, took the high road on his departure. Partly because both sides thought it was best for the other.
Back to Sheed. He made mistakes. He's also owned up to them and knows he was in the wrong. I think that says a lot about the 21-year-old. And as we all know things worked out fine for Duke. The least I can do is wish him well.
Back to Sheed. He made mistakes. He's also owned up to them and knows he was in the wrong. I think that says a lot about the 21-year-old. And as we all know things worked out fine for Duke. The least I can do is wish him well.
I am most glad to hear that Sheed will graduate from Duke in August. A Duke degree! Kudos for him.
And, though I dislike Maryland, I'm glad they are not in the ACC if he is going there. Wish him the best.
He's going to a great team and they have a great shot at a national title. They were already viewed as a top 5 calibre team and with Sheed that elevates them.
His departure, imo, helped us come together and win the title (doubt Grayson would have gotten the minutes or developed as he did with 'Sheed still here).
But, though I know he had emotional challenges and was detrimental to the team, I still really liked him a great deal. Kids mature at different rates and over different times. Some don't "get it" until they are in their 30s.
I think K was right to dismiss him, but hopefully fans also are willing to understand and be supportive of 'Sheed as well.
I am also hopeful that over the course of time - 'Sheed will have a good relationship with Duke and K and the rest of the program. And hope he'll grow as a person through all this.
And, though I dislike Maryland, I'm glad they are not in the ACC if he is going there. Wish him the best.
He's going to a great team and they have a great shot at a national title. They were already viewed as a top 5 calibre team and with Sheed that elevates them.
His departure, imo, helped us come together and win the title (doubt Grayson would have gotten the minutes or developed as he did with 'Sheed still here).
But, though I know he had emotional challenges and was detrimental to the team, I still really liked him a great deal. Kids mature at different rates and over different times. Some don't "get it" until they are in their 30s.
I think K was right to dismiss him, but hopefully fans also are willing to understand and be supportive of 'Sheed as well.
I am also hopeful that over the course of time - 'Sheed will have a good relationship with Duke and K and the rest of the program. And hope he'll grow as a person through all this.
I wonder how many Maryland fans/bloggers are furiously backtracking on any comments made about Sheed and K from a few months ago.
It's probably similar to UK fans and how they talked about Coach Cal prior to his arrival in Lexington.
Unless we play Maryland, they truly are irrelevant to me after they left the ACC. I think it's a little funny that Sheed's going to MD -- in view of how much they normally hate everything Duke, but I really don't care at this point. Maryland isn't the enemy. The rivalry ended when they essentially conceded that they could never compete with the Duke / UNC hierarchy.
No, he's going to a team that has a great shot at the Final Four. Only one team can win the National Championship and next year that's spoken for. Duke's going back to back.
Take away the Maryland thing, and lets all applaud Rasheed for taking such a huge disappointment in being cut from a team he loved and not quitting on himself. I think it is a rare 21 year old kid who gets kicked off his college team and stays and graduates from the same school. Motivated by the ability to play next year or not, that isn't an easy thing to do, especially from a place like Duke.
He could blow his ACL first game next year and still have the world on a string with that Duke degree he is expected to get in August. I'm very happy for him that he is accomplishing that, right now it seems small and just a step to play basketball again faster, but in reality that is the biggest news of all of this in terms of overall impact on his life moving forward.
With all that said, I hate Maryland, glad they're not in the ACC anymore and due to that fact I'll be able to root for Sheed more easily than if that were not the case.
Sidenote- This is a great case to refer to any time anyone says, "Well Duke bball players get preferential treatment compared to normal Duke students in the classroom and thats why they graduate a high percentage." or whatever variation the haters will throw out. If Duke bball players were only graduating due to preferential treatment, then there is no way Sheed graduates this August. A guy not only kicked off the team, and therefore no longer valuable to the bball program, but also with rumors of sexual assault hanging over his head is not a guy that continues to get the claimed easy road or preferential treatment at a university. This fact makes me even more proud of the graduation rate that got some publicity during the Final Four this year, and got critics using the line I quoted above.
He could blow his ACL first game next year and still have the world on a string with that Duke degree he is expected to get in August. I'm very happy for him that he is accomplishing that, right now it seems small and just a step to play basketball again faster, but in reality that is the biggest news of all of this in terms of overall impact on his life moving forward.
With all that said, I hate Maryland, glad they're not in the ACC anymore and due to that fact I'll be able to root for Sheed more easily than if that were not the case.
Sidenote- This is a great case to refer to any time anyone says, "Well Duke bball players get preferential treatment compared to normal Duke students in the classroom and thats why they graduate a high percentage." or whatever variation the haters will throw out. If Duke bball players were only graduating due to preferential treatment, then there is no way Sheed graduates this August. A guy not only kicked off the team, and therefore no longer valuable to the bball program, but also with rumors of sexual assault hanging over his head is not a guy that continues to get the claimed easy road or preferential treatment at a university. This fact makes me even more proud of the graduation rate that got some publicity during the Final Four this year, and got critics using the line I quoted above.
Don't feel bad 2004Audi, I had a memory lapse as well and was thinking he had less eligibility left.
I thought the same thing. I'm sure you could go to their message boards histories and pull some funny stuff (if you were a masochist).
I like you too friend =)
I had nothing against Sulimon, course I hate Duke, but I love to hate Duke. Wouldn't be fun if I didn't respect Coach K at the same time disliking him for minor things.
Fear not we found someone far worse than a Duke fan and that is a PSU fan. Between the pedophile apologists, the snob like atttitude despite not being a eleite academic insitution like Duke, and the lack of any recent success on the field but acting as if they are Ohio State or Alabama in football, it really makes the Duke animosity seem far nicer in retrospect.
Everyone in the Big Ten I talk to hates PSU.
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Yeah Maryland...that stings, but I have to think that kick-in-the-teeth was more of a secondary coincidence, then a primary factor. That's what I am choosing to believe.
...well I can tell you I have not been afflicted with that condition....or I haven't drunk that much...
You Terp fans still throwing batteries at opposing players and throwing bottles of water at their fans. Classy bunch you are. OFC
If the answer to that question is more than 0, and you are not a middle school student, then you have problems.
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I thought the video was pretty funny actually. The best part is, Maryland just keeps making themselves look bad with their displays of classlessness, so we don't need to make a video. Their student section there speaks for itself. It's like DC's version of the Jersey Shore.
Good for sheed. Wish him well. Congrats o getting your degree and moving on. He is a young man, and young folks make mistakes.
Question for the board, does sheed get a championship ring?
Question for the board, does sheed get a championship ring?
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