Proctor might come back.
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With all due respect he reclassed after Trevor went into the draft (on the last day possible) and we needed a guard.
Now that Lively has come on Whitehead is the most iffy of the 3. I wouldn't draft him in the first round right now. Its like last year when everyone said Keels was a great shooter.
I hope I’m wrong on Proctor. Think he would be really special as a sophomore.
Proctor will stay for NIL just like Keels did. I would be over the moon if Proctor and Mitchell returned, but I have had my hopes burned too many times. Could Whitehead return? No way in hell is he a lock for the lottery. He can't even stay on the court. He won't but could probably benefit from another year.Its Monday so my takes will not be positive.
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Whitehead is gone. Don't let your brain convince you there's any chance he's back. Top 5 recruits don't return. Some team will take a chance on him around pick #20. At that point it's OK to take a flyer on a kid.
Proctor's next six weeks will tell us if there's any chance he comes back I think.
And I really think Mitchell will be back. Dude is a dog and I think he wants a season at Duke where he shows it and averages 12 and 9 and plays lockdown defense. But even that might be wishful thinking.
Whitehead is for sure gone . He’s not returning. Lively and Flip are gone as well.
Proctor and Mitchell at the moment are the ones to watch . Flip even though he’s gone. Would not surprise me a lot if he returned his stock will not change .
I do think the longer Whitehead is out the more his stock will sink. He wasn't exactly dunking on people before this. Baldwin was a top 5 guy who fell to late first round.
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Harry Giles was picked with the 20th pick.
Michael Porter Jr. was picked with the 14th pick.
Whitehead will not fall to the second round.
Dariq out once again. Crazy to think/say this of the #2 recruit, but does it matter if he plays again for us? I'd take him back, but do we think he will really be a factor for us?
I was wondering that myself. I wish the kid the best, but he keeps having setbacks.
Whitehead could shoot 0 for his next 100 and he will still be gone.
Yes. He is a stud. He was hitting James Harden-esque stepback threes before this most recent injury. He wasn't as aggressive as we'd want but neither was Lively or Proctor until the last few games. It takes time.
I don't want him back in a Kyrie situation, but if he can come back and play a half dozen regular season ACC games before the ACC tourney? F*ck yes I want him back.
I'd take him back too, without a doubt. A stud though and having James Harden in the same breath? Cmon now. If you take out his HS rating ('22 class is obviously very weak) I haven't seen much to justify a "stud". No where near the level we have seen from other one and done talents that have come to Duke. Not hating one bit, and I hope he reaches more of his potential, but hoping to see him hit a "stud" level at this point is unrealistic
I didn't think that he would be back for this game as he was complaining of stiffness prior to the last one. After a practice or two this week, I will be a little surprised if he is not back for the next one. That will still give him what--7 games before the tournaments. Could be enough time to turn the corner like Proctor and Lively, at least, I hope.
Hope this doesn't come to be but Whitehead may already be gone. I don't think it will happen. I think will honor his committment to Duke and not pull a Jalen Johnson and quit. That stills rubs me the wrong way. OFC
Whitehead wants to play . The issue is his set backs are on his development side. Hard to get into any type of shape when both injuries have been to his legs . No reason to rush him back now .
He’s the difference maker in March if healthy. Duke needs the ones playing now to continue to improve.
He’s the difference maker in March if healthy. Duke needs the ones playing now to continue to improve.
Jalen Johnson is not and will never be a Dukie IMO.
Just cannot see it. If he does not get lots of playing time before March, no way he becomes a "difference maker". He was sedom a difference maker in the few games in which he played this fall. He has the potential to be really good, but he ain't yet no Kyrie, Jay Williams, Grant Hill, Mike Dunleavy, or even Barrett. The only way to build strength, speed, touch, and positioning is through game experience. OFC
I admit to drinking some of the Whitehead kool aid. You would see a move and go wow NBA talent, but the reality is he really hasn't looked like a pro at all. Not his fault. And now there are injury worries. I just don't see a sure fire first round pick. The more he plays the more he confirms this. He looks several notches below our former one and done wings. Even AJ and Keels had huge games where you saw the talent. I think the injury really affected him, and his decision making is suspect. If he leaves early he will be drafted, as the NBA is obsessed with potential. but he looks like a G league guy.
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Lol at any one thinking Whitehead isn’t going first round period ! No one cares about injuries just means don’t pay him lottery money . He will go first round and no you won’t see his full game at Duke and if you do he just makes it back into the lottery .
For the last time , Mark Williams , Trevor Keels , Wiseman , Kuminga all signed NBA contracts ( Real NBA money ) and get sent to the gleague to develop. Just because fans don’t see it , scouts do . Even Giles made NBA money without barely playing in college and still went first round off what he did in high school .
For the record Jay Williams ( never played a full nba contract ) injury. Grant hill ( injury after injury ) once he made it to the league . Dunleavy ( injury after injury in the league ). The only one is KI and he has yet to play a complete season since Cleveland and his headlines says the rest . Barrett has yet to make an all star appearance and has been mentioned the last two years in trades . What does a high school player who has been injured twice in college have to do with any of them ? Not to mention his first injury was before the season started and required surgery and then you come back on limited time trying to get into game shape just to get injured again . Talk about a mental hurtle to get over for an 18 year old trying to go pro but can’t stay on a college floor . Kid could have shut it down easily and left Duke already but hasn’t .
For the last time , Mark Williams , Trevor Keels , Wiseman , Kuminga all signed NBA contracts ( Real NBA money ) and get sent to the gleague to develop. Just because fans don’t see it , scouts do . Even Giles made NBA money without barely playing in college and still went first round off what he did in high school .
For the record Jay Williams ( never played a full nba contract ) injury. Grant hill ( injury after injury ) once he made it to the league . Dunleavy ( injury after injury in the league ). The only one is KI and he has yet to play a complete season since Cleveland and his headlines says the rest . Barrett has yet to make an all star appearance and has been mentioned the last two years in trades . What does a high school player who has been injured twice in college have to do with any of them ? Not to mention his first injury was before the season started and required surgery and then you come back on limited time trying to get into game shape just to get injured again . Talk about a mental hurtle to get over for an 18 year old trying to go pro but can’t stay on a college floor . Kid could have shut it down easily and left Duke already but hasn’t .
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I didn't say he won't get drafted I just don't think he will do much in the NBA.
I’ll put twenty on it . We just won’t see it at Duke but you can simply see it in his outside shot and the glimpses he has shown . It’s all mental with him now .
You can laugh all you want but he’s shown nothing indicative of a first round pick. For him to go first round would suggest that an NBA team would basically go by high school recruiting rankings and totally ignore his year in college which to me would be kind of bizarre He’s not explosive and is a below average outside shooter. How is he going to score in the NBA exactly?
I agree with most. Proctor seems like a fine young man, and I think he's fundamentally sound as a player. I am glad he came to Duke. He's the kind of player I would love to see develop over a 3-4 year career at Duke. But we know how that goes. 
JMHO - When he leaves after this year, it will be to go back to Australia and develop his game there for 2-3 years before he would be on any NBA roster or even the G league.
JMHO - When he leaves after this year, it will be to go back to Australia and develop his game there for 2-3 years before he would be on any NBA roster or even the G league.
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There you go again, Shey, arranging the facts to suit your "argment". All I said was that he will need playing time in order to be a "difference maker" (your choice of words) in March. When I said that he was not near the level of other Duke stars while they were at Duke, I was not referring to any injuries they experienced as professionals, which are totally irrelevant to the issue of how good a player Whithead is or is not right now. Why don't you go back and explain why you believe he will be a "difference maker" in March without earlier playing time or why he is the same quality of player as Hill, Williams etc. when they were at Duke. OFC
I still believe that we are getting ahead of ourselves in thinking that all these guys are leaving after this season. I do understand that history has caused many to expect the worse but projecting what these guys are thinking based on what past players have done is problematic. IMO there is very likely to be some good news in May. 👍
I hope so. For me it would make the losses this year easier to take knowing we were building towards something. Given these guys don't seem as NBA ready as most of our other classes have been it will be doubly frustrating if they all leave. We have a decent chance of getting at least Mitchell back. I'd be happy with 2 guys back out of Roach, Proctor, Mitchell, Flip, Lively and Whitehead.
So would I be happy with 2 of them back. Nationally, the 22 class was weak so Duke's top recruits really don't compare to some years in the past. From what I have read, 2025 is the next great class so I hope that this year starts to deviate from the past. There are posters on other boards that are certain that we get 2 of them back but expecting otherwise is understandable given what we have seen.
I dont expect any of them back as well, but boy does that make me mad. '22 class is historically weak.
If we lose all those guys that would be ridiculous. To me that would indicate a problem at Duke that we can't hold on to anyone. All we would be is an NBA pit stop. Young and Blakes would be our only returning contributors. I'd rather take our lumps and recruit guys that will unpack their bags.
They drafted Wiseman second was injured think he played two college games. KI went out after 11 games and went number one over all .
Not to mention he had a six figure gleague deal but decided to come to college .
As far as scoring ? He can shoot and everyone has seen that . Hasn’t been Explosive but he’s not going to be with back to back lower body injuries . He has no down side . Get healthy and in shape ( which he will in the league ) and he’ll be fine .
Barrett was supposed to be a special player as well but hasn’t been an all star yet and hasn’t put it altogether . Kids only 18 with huge upside .
Duke will get one of Proctor or Mitchell back but the rest are for sure gone .
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