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Not a good look at all. Keeps getting uglier
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The old adage that hazing is just part of team building is just an excuse for bullying,some of this stuff goes way overboard and should be outlawed
Because I'm Canadian I was never part of an Athletic team?? where's that coming from?Iplayed many sports for decades and yes there were some initiation rites,but if you think blindfolding 18 year old girls and stripping them naked is ok,they you and I are real far apart on whats ok and whats notYour Canadian and I imagine were never part of a group like a fraternity or athletic team. Do you really believe that these girls hadn’t heard of this hazing initiation before or after joining but prior to occurring? I’ve actually gone through hazing initiation and I knew what I was getting into before I stepped into the fraternity I pledged for Rush week.
Not saying that it’s right but I’d be willing to bet that those girls knew something like what happened was going to occur. If I had to guess, when the girl took her blindfold off and realized that there were alumni male cheerleaders that saw them naked, they decided to rat on their team.
99% of folks are able to get through hazing and initiations whether it be at fraternities, the military, or sports teams. The 1% that end up having a problem with the initiation or usually with members after for a totally separate issue start crying about this stuff despite knowing what they were getting into. Ive got no sympathy.
Because I'm Canadian I was never part of an Athletic team?? where's that coming from?Iplayed many sports for decades and yes there were some initiation rites,but if you think blindfolding 18 year old girls and stripping them naked is ok,they you and I are real far apart on whats ok and whats not
That was kind of uncalled forYour Canadian and I imagine were never part of a group like a fraternity or athletic team. Do you really believe that these girls hadn’t heard of this hazing initiation before or after joining but prior to occurring? I’ve actually gone through hazing initiation and I knew what I was getting into before I stepped into the fraternity I pledged for Rush week.
Not saying that it’s right but I’d be willing to bet that those girls knew something like what happened was going to occur. If I had to guess, when the girl took her blindfold off and realized that there were alumni male cheerleaders that saw them naked, they decided to rat on their team.
99% of folks are able to get through hazing and initiations whether it be at fraternities, the military, or sports teams. The 1% that end up having a problem with the initiation or usually with members after for a totally separate issue start crying about this stuff despite knowing what they were getting into. Ive got no sympathy.
I call on everyone to click ‘ignore’ anytime someone posts something you find extremely short sighted or thoughtless. Trying to convince a hardliner that their black and white stance is stupid will only get them more fired up and entrenched. Sharing one’s opinion is fine; muting opinions you find useless is priceless.
Your Canadian and I imagine were never part of a group like a fraternity or athletic team. Do you really believe that these girls hadn’t heard of this hazing initiation before or after joining but prior to occurring? I’ve actually gone through hazing initiation and I knew what I was getting into before I stepped into the fraternity I pledged for Rush week.
Not saying that it’s right but I’d be willing to bet that those girls knew something like what happened was going to occur. If I had to guess, when the girl took her blindfold off and realized that there were alumni male cheerleaders that saw them naked, they decided to rat on their team.
99% of folks are able to get through hazing and initiations whether it be at fraternities, the military, or sports teams. The 1% that end up having a problem with the initiation or usually with members after for a totally separate issue start crying about this stuff despite knowing what they were getting into. Ive got no sympathy.
Personally, I have always thought the concept of hazing was moronic. As far as this event goes, or any team based hazing, even more so. A team is nobody's private little club. A spot on a team should be fairly decided by the coach and by whatever other legitimate standards apply (unless you play at UNC, which has no legitimate standards).
Hazing has only been involved into turning millions of kids into the best military in the world, as well as turning new friends into brothers on the fraternity side of things. If you haven’t been through it, then no, you would never understand it. When you look at the number of Presidents, Senators, and CEOs at major companies, and then ask how 5% of a student body (guys in fraternities) end up helping to produce a much larger percentage of top executives and politicians.
Is it just happen stance that a large percentage of the most powerful and richest men today went through the Greek system which includes hazing.
The military breaks a kid’s spirit and then builds them back up because he or she has to kill someone in battle without thinking about the moral consequences of it.
I was in a fraternity in college and part of the Greek system. Taking joy in deliberately humiliating and shaming someone for personal reasons is pathetic at best and usually goes against all the morals the fraternity stands for.
So I’m assuming as soon as the fraternity hazing started, you left the fraternity immediately because it’s so pathetic right? Or did you go through it and then haze pledges that came after you. Exactly why do you think fraternities hazes a pledge? How about breaking down individual pledges and then using the process to rebuild the entire group of individual pledges into a pledge class.
You assume wrong. I never hazed a pledge, because it was an unnecessary part of the fraternity. Just because someone treats you like crap for nine months or so doesn’t mean your entitled to treat the next guy like crap.
Not everyone in a fraternity participates in hazing. The guys who hazed me the hardest I had the least amount respect for.
I treated pledges with respect because that how I wanted to be treated.
You mold your pledge class with respect and brotherly love not mental and physical aggression.
The liability and risk associated with hazing far outweight any benefit that hazing may or may not have. One bad hazing incident could close your whole chapter and close the whole Greek system on your campus.
You really want us to believe it's hazing and not all the other processes of our military academies that make ours the best military. Come on , of it were simply the hazing then Mozambique could copy out system and beat us in a war next year. And while lots of big timers go through the Greek system, it's not the hazing that makes them successful...that'd be the connections made and the intelligence and other skills they had.
Don't take anything in this thread seriously. It went to hell early on, which seems to be happening more and more these days. And thank you for your service.Please excuse me, I do not post often, but when I see some stupid hazing incident by cheerleaders compared to my beloved military I must comment. If you have not served your country do not make this comparison. Believe me there is no comparison in the two.
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I don't feel like what the military does is "hazing" in the way I would define the term.
What fraternities and the like have traditionally done definitely falls into that category, and it is undeniably unnecessary. It is just an excuse for people to let loose the absolute worst parts of themselves, the sadist within who revels in the power they feel embarrassing another individual and making them suffer. It is so appealing to them because they get to unleash this part of them that (hopefully) rarely sees the light of day and feel justified because it is supposed to be some mandated part of "joining the club." They get to remove the guilt and shame from actions that are unquestionably shameful.
Please excuse me, I do not post often, but when I see some stupid hazing incident by cheerleaders compared to my beloved military I must comment. If you have not served your country do not make this comparison. Believe me there is no comparison in the two.
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Interesting you say that - my specific frat years had a program built by 2 former Marine infantry that did their service and went back to school. Now to be crystal clear, in no way as I saying collegiate pledging has the same benefit for country as our beloved service men and women, but not all pledging programs are built by "sadists" and some actually benefit the kids going through the process. I will agree that many, if not most, Greek org's have pledging systems set up for the wrong reason, and it continues to be a problem.
Sounds very much like you're saying it's right.Your Canadian and I imagine were never part of a group like a fraternity or athletic team. Do you really believe that these girls hadn’t heard of this hazing initiation before or after joining but prior to occurring? I’ve actually gone through hazing initiation and I knew what I was getting into before I stepped into the fraternity I pledged for Rush week.
Not saying that it’s right but I’d be willing to bet that those girls knew something like what happened was going to occur. If I had to guess, when the girl took her blindfold off and realized that there were alumni male cheerleaders that saw them naked, they decided to rat on their team.
99% of folks are able to get through hazing and initiations whether it be at fraternities, the military, or sports teams. The 1% that end up having a problem with the initiation or usually with members after for a totally separate issue start crying about this stuff despite knowing what they were getting into. Ive got no sympathy.
Yeah, I'd say hazing is more like slavery.Please excuse me, I do not post often, but when I see some stupid hazing incident by cheerleaders compared to my beloved military I must comment. If you have not served your country do not make this comparison. Believe me there is no comparison in the two.
Yeah, I'd say hazing is more like slavery.
Comparing hazing to slavery? Seriously? Really? C'mon, man!