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[skysdad]

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I recently read an opinion that you will be able to tell when K is going to retire because he will not recruit as hard leading up to it. The reasoning being because of his hugemongous(my own word) ego he doesn't want to leave his successor in too good of a situation because he wants everyone to know that he was the reason for the success. I thought it was pretty funny and has a lot of truth to it.




Thought I had seen it all. You can't make stuff like this up. On second thought I guess you can. But on the other hand this guy is a hall of famer. OFC

 

[GoDukeDevils]

Well, I jumped in a thread over there. For the millionth time i saw "Dean thought coaching USA was a privilege that should be shared" and now UNC fans have spun that internet narrative into "Dean thought it was an unfair recruiting advantage to coach USA more than once."

Both of these narratives are purely internet message board driven, stated in response to Ks USA success.

UNC fans on that site will tell me Im an idiot, but nobody will produce any credible evidence that Dean ever made these quotes.

 

[LetsGoDuke301]

 

[OldasdirtDevil]

Now that's funny, LetsGoDuke!

OFC

 

[skysdad]

Now that's funny, LetsGoDuke!

OFC

He for sure is a honorary member. OFC

 

[topps coach]

He for sure is a honorary member. OFC

K is too young at heart to be an old fart.

 

[HuffyJB]

Well, I jumped in a thread over there. For the millionth time i saw "Dean thought coaching USA was a privilege that should be shared" and now UNC fans have spun that internet narrative into "Dean thought it was an unfair recruiting advantage to coach USA more than once."

Both of these narratives are purely internet message board driven, stated in response to Ks USA success.

UNC fans on that site will tell me Im an idiot, but nobody will produce any credible evidence that Dean ever made these quotes.

A cursory Google search to attempt to substantiate that info only brings up a site called "tarheelblog.com" as the source. Seems perfectly credible, with no detectable angle or bias.

 

[KellenPatrick]

A cursory Google search to attempt to substantiate that info only brings up a site called "tarheelblog.com" as the source. Seems perfectly credible, with no detectable angle or bias.

Ha haaa. They really do love going with the "Dean had too much integrity to take the USA job more than one Olympics. He even said it himself that it was unfair!" They totally make s**t up over there.

 

[dbav]

K is too young at heart to be an old fart.

Unfortunately for the OFC, he's Satan and will never get old. He's at least 4 millennia away from hitting the threshold.

 

[hart2chesson]

Unfortunately for the OFC, he's Satan and will never get old. He's at least 4 millennia away from hitting the threshold.

"Special K"

The official cereal of OFC!!!!

OFC

 

[Mark Gastineau]

This was @Archer2 in response to a post about the new dorms at Kansas for the basketball players:

No doubt, we'll be paying them a salary before too much longer. Eventually, I think they'll have a special course of study just for athletes, one that is intentionally less rigorous and is geared toward futures in pro sports(with courses in how to manage your money, how to hire an agent, etc...). Basically, it would entail abandoning any pretense of the student athlete, something that many schools(SEC?) have basically done already. But there's just too much money being generated by sports now, as you said, and schools have become dependent upon it to operate.

Are you freaking kidding me? Have they already completely forgotten about AFAM already? And pointing the finger at SEC schools instead of acknowledging what happened in Chapel Hill over the past 20 years? @DevilDJ, I'm sure you'll get a big laugh out of this.

 

[tarheel0910]

This was @Archer2 in response to a post about the new dorms at Kansas for the basketball players:

No doubt, we'll be paying them a salary before too much longer. Eventually, I think they'll have a special course of study just for athletes, one that is intentionally less rigorous and is geared toward futures in pro sports(with courses in how to manage your money, how to hire an agent, etc...). Basically, it would entail abandoning any pretense of the student athlete, something that many schools(SEC?) have basically done already. But there's just too much money being generated by sports now, as you said, and schools have become dependent upon it to operate.

Are you freaking kidding me? Have they already completely forgotten about AFAM already? And pointing the finger at SEC schools instead of acknowledging what happened in Chapel Hill over the past 20 years? @DevilDJ, I'm sure you'll get a big laugh out of this.

I actually think a major that deals with the issues and opportunities that athletes have or will have makes sense. You could have financial planning classes, journalism classes, sports medicine classes, etc. They already do this for lawyers and doctors. They have to take courses specifically designed around that profession. Why not do the same thing for someone who wants to be a professional athlete? My guess is a lot of them would enjoy it and would put in more work because of that. I’m not saying they should be easy classes, just classes that are more relevant to what they will be doing in life.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

I actually think a major that deals with the issues and opportunities that athletes have or will have makes sense. You could have financial planning classes, journalism classes, sports medicine classes, etc. They already do this for lawyers and doctors. They have to take courses specifically designed around that profession. Why not do the same thing for someone who wants to be a professional athlete? My guess is a lot of them would enjoy it and would put in more work because of that. I’m not saying they should be easy classes, just classes that are more relevant to what they will be doing in life.

I agree with what you're saying. I just think it's supremely ironic for anyone affiliated with UNC to bemoan "abandoning any pretense of the student athlete" after what transpired in Chapel Hill the past 20+ years.

 

[KellenPatrick]

I agree with what you're saying. I just think it's supremely ironic for anyone affiliated with UNC to bemoan "abandoning any pretense of the student athlete" after what transpired in Chapel Hill the past 20+ years.

Yeah, I think he totally missed the boat. Or is simply just another Tar Heel with his head stuck firmly in the sand....

 

[KellenPatrick]

This was @Archer2 in response to a post about the new dorms at Kansas for the basketball players:

No doubt, we'll be paying them a salary before too much longer. Eventually, I think they'll have a special course of study just for athletes, one that is intentionally less rigorous and is geared toward futures in pro sports(with courses in how to manage your money, how to hire an agent, etc...). Basically, it would entail abandoning any pretense of the student athlete, something that many schools(SEC?) have basically done already. But there's just too much money being generated by sports now, as you said, and schools have become dependent upon it to operate.

Are you freaking kidding me? Have they already completely forgotten about AFAM already? And pointing the finger at SEC schools instead of acknowledging what happened in Chapel Hill over the past 20 years? @DevilDJ, I'm sure you'll get a big laugh out of this.

Amazing. Talk about nerve. And yes, I see it quite often over there where they say crap like "Now that it has been proven that the bball program did no wrong...." Lol, wake the hell up.

 

[denniden]

gary on his soap box-
Weak. Pop coaching is NOTHING like the advantage a college coach gets. And for the record, Dean specifically cited the unfair advantage as a reason college coaches shouldn't get more than one stint.
Let's get this straight once and for all.:
One Olympic sport is not as important as the integrity of college basketball in general, and they'll do just fine without him. There is NO valid argument justifying K's position. None. And trying to rationalize it just makes you look silly.



Who wants it? Mark? Denn? DJ? 301?

LOL, I think we have already established what gary and his words mean. So I will just leave it at that.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

Yeah, I think he totally missed the boat. Or is simply just another Tar Heel with his head stuck firmly in the sand....

@tarheel0910 is actually a very reasonable poster. I wouldn't lump him in with some of the goons over there.

 

[dukedevilz]

This was @Archer2 in response to a post about the new dorms at Kansas for the basketball players:

No doubt, we'll be paying them a salary before too much longer. Eventually, I think they'll have a special course of study just for athletes, one that is intentionally less rigorous and is geared toward futures in pro sports(with courses in how to manage your money, how to hire an agent, etc...). Basically, it would entail abandoning any pretense of the student athlete, something that many schools(SEC?) have basically done already. But there's just too much money being generated by sports now, as you said, and schools have become dependent upon it to operate.

Are you freaking kidding me? Have they already completely forgotten about AFAM already? And pointing the finger at SEC schools instead of acknowledging what happened in Chapel Hill over the past 20 years? @DevilDJ, I'm sure you'll get a big laugh out of this.

Smh. Would love to say something to that group... I suppose this will suffice for now.

 

[LetsGoDuke301]

This was @Archer2 in response to a post about the new dorms at Kansas for the basketball players:

No doubt, we'll be paying them a salary before too much longer. Eventually, I think they'll have a special course of study just for athletes, one that is intentionally less rigorous and is geared toward futures in pro sports(with courses in how to manage your money, how to hire an agent, etc...). Basically, it would entail abandoning any pretense of the student athlete, something that many schools(SEC?) have basically done already. But there's just too much money being generated by sports now, as you said, and schools have become dependent upon it to operate.

Are you freaking kidding me? Have they already completely forgotten about AFAM already? And pointing the finger at SEC schools instead of acknowledging what happened in Chapel Hill over the past 20 years? @DevilDJ, I'm sure you'll get a big laugh out of this.

 

[Dukesince90]

I hear it all the time from the Heel fans about how self centered Coach K is and how he's only concerned about his legacy and wins, but isn't it the Tarheels that have Late Night with Roy. Duke just has Countdown to Cameron. There's nothing about Coach K. Now the court is named after him, but when you have the most wins in the history of the sport that should be a given.

 

[peterjurkinsquirtsroywilliams]

I hear it all the time from the Heel fans about how self centered Coach K is and how he's only concerned about his legacy and wins, but isn't it the Tarheels that have Late Night with Roy. Duke just has Countdown to Cameron. There's nothing about Coach K. Now the court is named after him, but when you have the most wins in the history of the sport that should be a given.

They're describing Roy.

 

[tarheel0910]

Yeah, I think he totally missed the boat. Or is simply just another Tar Heel with his head stuck firmly in the sand....

I understood what he was saying. I guess I just went a little off topic on that post.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

Good lord, DSouth is having an elementary school meltdown in the PJ Washington thread.

 

[gottagonow]

http://www.etruesports.com/files/Image/Roy Williams_Belmont loss_crop2.jpg

Daggone, friggin Old Farts....

OFC

I believe Ole Roy might be having a difficult time starting that movement.

 

[KellenPatrick]

@tarheel0910 is actually a very reasonable poster. I wouldn't lump him in with some of the goons over there.

Just found it interesting how he totally skimmed by the irony of Archer insinuating that the SEC handed out grades. I mean.....well...ya know...

 

[timo0402]

Good lord, DSouth is having an elementary school meltdown in the PJ Washington thread.

To be fair he knows more than Clint and others.

 

[hart2chesson]

This was @Archer2 in response to a post about the new dorms at Kansas for the basketball players:

No doubt, we'll be paying them a salary before too much longer. Eventually, I think they'll have a special course of study just for athletes, one that is intentionally less rigorous and is geared toward futures in pro sports(with courses in how to manage your money, how to hire an agent, etc...). Basically, it would entail abandoning any pretense of the student athlete, something that many schools(SEC?) have basically done already. But there's just too much money being generated by sports now, as you said, and schools have become dependent upon it to operate.

Are you freaking kidding me? Have they already completely forgotten about AFAM already? And pointing the finger at SEC schools instead of acknowledging what happened in Chapel Hill over the past 20 years? @DevilDJ, I'm sure you'll get a big laugh out of this.

I hope Devil DJ Carves this up like a vegamatic! Beginning in the late 80s/early 90s, El Deano kept basketball players academics SEPARATED from rest of student body. Studies for basketballers were housed in athletics quarters,and Burgess McSwain was Dean's right hand...Of course she later reached out to Crowder and Nyang'oro...

#DeanKnew
#RoyKnew
#TheyAllKnew

OFC

 

[Mark Gastineau]

Just found it interesting how he totally skimmed by the irony of Archer insinuating that the SEC handed out grades. I mean.....well...ya know...

Eh, I can't speak for him, but he doesn't strike me as someone oblivious to reality. Not to mention, his post in response was more of a tangent that actually raised an interesting idea about constructing a curriculum that would best serve a future professional athlete (e.g. classes in public speaking, money management, etc.). I do think it's an interesting idea, and something a lot of professional athletes could benefit from given how many of them squander their money, make ill-advised investments, and have public outbursts in the media.

 

[denniden]

Eh, I can't speak for him, but he doesn't strike me as someone oblivious to reality. Not to mention, his post in response was more of a tangent that actually raised an interesting idea about constructing a curriculum that would best serve a future professional athlete (e.g. classes in public speaking, money management, etc.). I do think it's an interesting idea, and something a lot of professional athletes could benefit from given how many of them squander their money, make ill-advised investments, and have public outbursts in the media.

Mark, I believe there is some tutoring that goes on in regards to athletes and potential pro careers. However those teaching are not part of any curriculum. Meaning they do not have to attend classes for them to graduate or in most of the cases, stay eligible. I think the schools are already offering the classes they need to take care of future financial and social situations. IMO, it should be up to the kids. They can be led to water, but they these kids need to learn how to drink for themselves. (after all these kids are already being given a quarter of a million $ education for free and provided with free housing and food. At some point it is time to pull up the big boy pants and do for yourself) There are also initiatives going on in pro sports to try and help the younger guys when they first make it to the pro ranks in regards to educating them on responsible behaviors.

 

[dukephysics]

There are also initiatives going on in pro sports to try and help the younger guys when they first make it to the pro ranks in regards to educating them on responsible behaviors.

I was going to say the same thing. Stories about players losing everything make the pro leagues look bad. And the pro leagues don't like looking bad.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

At some point it is time to pull up the big boy pants and do for yourself.

Fair enough, but I can't say that I would be responsible enough to listen to that kind of advice when I'm 18-19 and on the verge of signing a multi-million contract . Honestly, I think that type of learning should be forced on the elite level athletes more and more, even though they would seek out that advice themselves in an ideal world.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

A cursory Google search to attempt to substantiate that info only brings up a site called "tarheelblog.com" as the source. Seems perfectly credible, with no detectable angle or bias.

Like clockwork, when pressed for proof of Dean Smith saying coaching Team USA should be passed around, @Archer2 rolled out that link. A couple of things about that link:

(1) That blog post popped up 4 weeks before Coach K began his second Olympics as coach. Coincidence?

(2) There is no actual quote from Dean, just this by the blog writer: "He felt no coach should helm the Olympic team more than once, unlike Iba, and never represented his country on the international stage again." This could be an actual quote, but if it was then why not just quote Smith directly? Or maybe it was some liberal editorializing by the writer, coincidentally enough before Coach K led Team USA for the second time?

Also, @mikeirbyusa with a classic response on the subject:

WRONG!!

It was out there LONG before K coached team USA the 1st time.

Wish you dukies wouldn't come here acting like such experts!

Where's any actual proof of this? TarHeelBlog is the best evidence these clowns can roll out? Such a joke.

 

[timo0402]

Like clockwork, when pressed for proof of Dean Smith saying coaching Team USA should be passed around, @Archer2 rolled out that link. A couple of things about that link:

(1) That blog post popped up 4 weeks before Coach K began his second Olympics as coach. Coincidence?

(2) There is no actual quote from Dean, just this by the blog writer: "He felt no coach should helm the Olympic team more than once, unlike Iba, and never represented his country on the international stage again." This could be an actual quote, but if it was then why not just quote Smith directly? Or maybe it was some liberal editorializing by the writer, coincidentally enough before Coach K led Team USA for the second time?

Also, @mikeirbyusa with a classic response on the subject:

WRONG!!

It was out there LONG before K coached team USA the 1st time.

Wish you dukies wouldn't come here acting like such experts!

Where's any actual proof of this? TarHeelBlog is the best evidence these clowns can roll out? Such a joke.

How many times do we have to use the George quote? "It's not a lie, if you believe it."

 

[timo0402]

I also like how they want a link or proof when Clint makes a statement about a recruit- based on actual facts, but they can't prove a simple quote from Dean.

 

[skysdad]

"Special K"

The official cereal of OFC!!!!

OFC

We really need our fiber. OFC

 

[gottagonow]

Good lord, DSouth is having an elementary school meltdown in the PJ Washington thread.

Dsouthr, Gary and a few more of those tarhole ego maniacs argue more than Donald and Hillary did last Monday and then Mike Irby sides with Gary-7 and Dsouthr gets his feelings hurt.

 

[hart2chesson]

I believe Ole Roy might be having a difficult time starting that movement.

Haha... He's " gotta go," gottago!!!

OFC

 

[skysdad]

I believe Ole Roy might be having a difficult time starting that movement.

Once again. Stool softener. What's the name brand of that stool softener. Dulcolax, that's it. Maybe dirt can do something with this using that famous photo of hof coach roy williams. Been a long time since we've seen it. This is the greatest thread ever. It's funny, it's factual and endless. I can see why thr hate it so much. They have nothing like it Just like why they hate Coach K so much. They have nobody like him. OFC

 

[hart2chesson]

Once again. Stool softener. What's the name brand of that stool softener. Maybe dirt can do something with this using that famous photo of hof coach roy williams. Been a long time since we've seen it OFC

Perfect set-up for OADD, Sky!!

#RoyBlew

OFC

 

[DukeRulesBasketball]

"Special K"

The official cereal of OFC!!!!

OFC

Special K = Coach K