I feel pretty good about winning the title in 2015 as opposed to losing it in 2016 like the holes did. No comparison at all.
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I think that's an insult to the ones here that are conservative deplorable's.
Gary on who UNC fans should be listening to when it comes to info about recruits (sounds like a passive aggressive shot at @carolinablue34 and a few others):
If certain (mostly newby) posters would spend a little more time reading Radar and less time disrespecting it and puffing out their chests over their shiny new premium memberships they might actually learn something while they're here.
So if guys would spend more time listening to him and DSouth as opposed to Clint and their other insiders, they might actually learn something?
Oh it was believe me. He and I have never gotten along.
But this poast highlights in a nutshell my problems with him and a few others. I've learned more about our recruiting from having premium in 30 seconds than I did the entire 3 months on radar listening to him talk nonsense like a pompous, narcissistic jackass.
It's just something we on OOTB say for shits and giggles. Kind of like you guys with the OFC thing. And yes, I do realize it stands for 'Old Farts Club'
That's fine. I just think it's ironic to mock one when doing the other.It's just something we on OOTB say for shits and giggles. Kind of like you guys with the OFC thing. And yes, I do realize it stands for 'Old Farts Club'
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"Well isnt that what the board is here for? To talk and prognosticate and worry etc? what fun would it be if we just all sat back and said "oh cool Roys signing 4 2-3 star recruits this cycle..go get em guys" would be pretty boring. Recruiting to me is almost as fun to discuss as the games. I love the highs and lows of it all and being surprised. of course we cant effect any of it but the board is here for discussion."
Then this response from HeelFan58. Hilarious drill on gary.
"x 10000
this is what the slightest hint of worry/negativity gets."
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"Well isnt that what the board is here for? To talk and prognosticate and worry etc? what fun would it be if we just all sat back and said "oh cool Roys signing 4 2-3 star recruits this cycle..go get em guys" would be pretty boring. Recruiting to me is almost as fun to discuss as the games. I love the highs and lows of it all and being surprised. of course we cant effect any of it but the board is here for discussion."
Then this response from HeelFan58. Hilarious drill on gary.
"x 10000
this is what the slightest hint of worry/negativity gets."
121 HeelFan58, Thursday at 1:57 PM
Oh hell, the youtube video didn't show up in my post. It was a minute and a half long video of Moe from the Three Stooges slapping Curly and Larry. Totally targeted at goofy gary over there.
And yet Gary describes himself as a moderate in terms of evaluating and describing Carolina's current state of affairs. This coming from the same guy that has labeled all of UNC's targets as 4-stars or better. #garylogic
And the only thing I'm devaluing is your practice of devaluing the info and evaluations some of us put on this board. Nobody is saying you aren't more than welcome to your opinions, and to swim in the doom & gloom murk if you want. Some like to pump sunshine, and they are welcome to that as well. I'm of the analytical persuasion and end up somewhere in the middle.
Gary claiming to be "somewhere in the middle." This one is another first-ballot THR Hall of Famer.
I saw that and laughed out loud at my desk... got a lot of weird looks. Analytical persuasion and somewhere in the middle:
So just saw this from Steat in the Harry Giles thread:
"We are talking about a kid will have 3 surgeries on his knees in the last 3 years. I would say the same thing if it was a UNC player. I'm a financial advisor in my day job. I see this from a different angle than many fans. Most of these kids don't care about an NCAA title. If this kid comes back a tears up his knee and ruins his NBA career, lets see how many of you support him financially for the rest of his life."
I hope no one on this board has their money with this guy... sweet jesus.
"We are talking about a kid will have 3 surgeries on his knees in the last 3 years. I would say the same thing if it was a UNC player. I'm a financial advisor in my day job. I see this from a different angle than many fans. Most of these kids don't care about an NCAA title. If this kid comes back a tears up his knee and ruins his NBA career, lets see how many of you support him financially for the rest of his life."
I hope no one on this board has their money with this guy... sweet jesus.
This came off the College Basketball Board and the poster seems to be a Kansas fan but I think maybe he's a thr poster in disguise. He sure poast like one and it's thr quote worthy. OFC
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Top returning big man coming off of broken foot
Best player is a head case that deliberately tries to hurt opposing players
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Doesn't quite add up IMO.
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He's a Kansas fan. He constantly posts stuff to get a rise out of people. Also keeps calling for Kansas to fire Bill Self. Interesting strategy.This came off the College Basketball Board and the poster seems to be a Kansas fan but I think maybe he's a thr poster in disguise. He sure poast like one and it's thr quote worthy. OFC
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Starting PG will be a freshman
And is the consensus #1 team preseason
Doesn't quite add up IMO.
Steat is an asshat. He doesn't care about Giles one bit. It's just another opportunity for him to take a shot at K. He's much more successful at doing that than what he is in his career.
FIFY. He is an effective troll though, I tend not to bite but some times he makes it difficult.
@coryfly with an interesting post:
Roy's track record with putting guys who are expected to be in the lottery in the lottery is pretty great overall actually. Heck, he has put a number of guys in the lottery who some thought would never even start here.
Huh? Here are his lottery picks since coming to UNC:
Sean May (5-star) - consistent starter throughout
Rashad McCants (4-star) - consistent starter throughout
Raymond Felton (5-star) - started 101 career games
Marvin Williams (5-star) - 6th man as a freshman on an upperclassmen team
Brandan Wright (5-star) - started 37 of 37 career games
Tyler Hansbrough (5-star) - started 141 of 142 career games
Ed Davis (5-star) - started 25 of 61 career games
John Henson (5-star) started 82 of 109 career games
Kendall Marshall (4-star) - started 56 of 73 career games
Harrison Barnes (5-star) - started 73 of 75 career games
Some thought a number of those guys would never start at UNC? Marvin Williams is really the only player of that group that didn't start regularly, though I doubt any UNC fan thought he wasn't good enough or wouldn't have started every single game if he had come back as a sophomore.
Roy's track record with putting guys who are expected to be in the lottery in the lottery is pretty great overall actually. Heck, he has put a number of guys in the lottery who some thought would never even start here.
Huh? Here are his lottery picks since coming to UNC:
Sean May (5-star) - consistent starter throughout
Rashad McCants (4-star) - consistent starter throughout
Raymond Felton (5-star) - started 101 career games
Marvin Williams (5-star) - 6th man as a freshman on an upperclassmen team
Brandan Wright (5-star) - started 37 of 37 career games
Tyler Hansbrough (5-star) - started 141 of 142 career games
Ed Davis (5-star) - started 25 of 61 career games
John Henson (5-star) started 82 of 109 career games
Kendall Marshall (4-star) - started 56 of 73 career games
Harrison Barnes (5-star) - started 73 of 75 career games
Some thought a number of those guys would never start at UNC? Marvin Williams is really the only player of that group that didn't start regularly, though I doubt any UNC fan thought he wasn't good enough or wouldn't have started every single game if he had come back as a sophomore.
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Yeah... I like coryfly but I don't understand what he is saying here. I mean if Joel James had been turned into a lottery pick I would see his point but... maybe he is referring to Roy's days at KU? even still he has almost always had incredibly talented teams.
Could you imagine this guy heading your finances?? Lollll. And most of them are saying he shit sit out the year and go to the draft because they hope to hell they don't have to watch him dominating in a Duke uniform. Some idiots even saying that if Giles does play this season it is further proof that rest only about himself and winning. Cares nothing at all for the kids. Ha haaaaaa.
That is ridiculous. I hate KU - but I think Bill Self is about as good a coach as there is and I think he's pretty classy of a guy too.
My favorite part was when he said "most of these kids don't care about an NCAA Title". That's one of the biggest factors behind most top players choosing the school that they choose to go to because they want to win an NCAA Title while they're in college.
Other than Brice would like to know what other lower ranked recruit that Roy had ever even put in the first round
None at UNC. Of course Tarheel Nation will tout Roy for the next 20 years and give him full credit for Brice's transformation. What they don't realize is that Brice was already very productive as a freshman, he just didn't get the minutes. His player efficiency rating of 22.7 as a freshman was better than Marcus Paige's super sophomore year (20.8 PER).
I created this list which shows all of Roy's top-25 RSCI players and 1st-round picks while at UNC. 11 of the 16 guys taken in the 1st round were top-10 players. 15 of the 16 guys were 5-star recruits. Yes, Brice was great. Who else ya got?
I would love for someone to post this image on THR and ask which one of the lottery picks "some thought would never even start here."None at UNC. Of course Tarheel Nation will tout Roy for the next 20 years and give him full credit for Brice's transformation. What they don't realize is that Brice was already very productive as a freshman, he just didn't get the minutes. His player efficiency rating of 22.7 as a freshman was better than Marcus Paige's super sophomore year (20.8 PER).
I created this list which shows all of Roy's top-25 RSCI players and 1st-round picks while at UNC. 11 of the 16 guys taken in the 1st round were top-10 players. 15 of the 16 guys were 5-star recruits. Yes, Brice was great. Who else ya got?
It would be their last post on THR.
Wouldn't surprise me, though nothing about those facts is inflammatory.
Roy's top 5 recruits stay on average for 2 years, while his top 10 recruits stay right at 2.6 years. Geeez, I wonder what's going on with UNC's recruiting.
To be honest I think hof coach roy williams is recruiting the best way he can right now and is doing pretty good. No one can tell me he's not recruiting one and dones because he is. He's just not getting them and it probably does have to do with the unc academic scandal but that was self induced so it really is no excuse. He's getting 2 and 3 stars and a few 4 stars but they are still 2,3 and 4 stars and just because they commit to unc they don't suddenly become 5 stars. What he is trying to do and he almost pulled it off last year is keeping them at unc for 4 years hoping experience can beat great talent. He has also seen players like brice johnson really be good by the time they leave but there's also the paige's and mcadoo's. By the way I liked paige. He would have been a nice Dukie. I like what Coach K is doing. He's recruiting and getting those talented one and dones and also recruiting some that's going to stay 3 or 4 years getting a combination of talented experience and that young awesome talent. It didn't get us a championship last year true but who knows what would have happened if Amile had not been hurt. hof coach roy williams is playing the hand he has been dealt. It's his programs own doing. He may very well win this years nc. We shall see. I'm still betting on Coach K. OFC
This isn't from THR but over on the main board wardhawk has created a thread titled "what does Duke need to do to become a blue blood?" He must be really worried about the Duke/Kansas game
They stay longer for that "whirlt clast ejduhcation" ol Roy promises em!!!
Saw that and I agree he's just trying to get a rise out of Duke fans. If he comes here just ignore. His post aren't worth the time reading. OFC
That's why I didn't start a thread for it and just posted about it in this thread because I knew it would most likely draw unwanted visitors
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Here is his reply from the national board. Apparently I should have known he doesn't post here?None at UNC. Of course Tarheel Nation will tout Roy for the next 20 years and give him full credit for Brice's transformation. What they don't realize is that Brice was already very productive as a freshman, he just didn't get the minutes. His player efficiency rating of 22.7 as a freshman was better than Marcus Paige's super sophomore year (20.8 PER).
I created this list which shows all of Roy's top-25 RSCI players and 1st-round picks while at UNC. 11 of the 16 guys taken in the 1st round were top-10 players. 15 of the 16 guys were 5-star recruits. Yes, Brice was great. Who else ya got?
Ha haaa, guess you are disappointed now, Mark? I don't get it. And actually, Cory, you just made yourself look even sillier. That post has quite a few words in it but says absolutely nothing. And he doesn't know what the NBA lottery is or what constitutes a lottery pick?? Lol.
Can always tell when it is Steat. His pure hatred for K knows no bounds.
"Now, what are the majority of Duke fans thinking?... "Oh, he will be out for only 6 weeks. He will be back a few days before the first game." This is ridiculous thinking on the part of Duke fans. It's even more selfish that K is even thinking about putting Giles back on the court this season. When someone has continuing knee issues it is usually for a reason. If he tries to come back to soon, and six weeks is way too soon, he is just asking for more knee problems. I hate it for the kid. If he is set on playing 1-year in college, than the smart thing would be to take a redshirt year and get healthy. K knows that redshirting Giles would mess up his recruiting for 2017. With Giles coming back, would Carter commit with Bolden and Giles on the roster? I doubt it. K, the Leader of Men, is a selfish Rat and only thinks about himself."
"Now, what are the majority of Duke fans thinking?... "Oh, he will be out for only 6 weeks. He will be back a few days before the first game." This is ridiculous thinking on the part of Duke fans. It's even more selfish that K is even thinking about putting Giles back on the court this season. When someone has continuing knee issues it is usually for a reason. If he tries to come back to soon, and six weeks is way too soon, he is just asking for more knee problems. I hate it for the kid. If he is set on playing 1-year in college, than the smart thing would be to take a redshirt year and get healthy. K knows that redshirting Giles would mess up his recruiting for 2017. With Giles coming back, would Carter commit with Bolden and Giles on the roster? I doubt it. K, the Leader of Men, is a selfish Rat and only thinks about himself."
Doc Steat, setting the record straight. Not only can he set your finances up for a comfortable retirement, he can also tell you what is the correct pan of action for a kid having a scope. THR is lucky to have the multi dimensional figure on their board to help them along. Between him, gary and the davidbagofwindR....what more would anyone want?
Seriously, it doesn't take much research to find out why Giles is having a "clean up' surgery. The Duke doctors will not allow Giles to play if he is not ready to go. It is not K's call. It is Giles, his family and his doctors call.
Seriously, it doesn't take much research to find out why Giles is having a "clean up' surgery. The Duke doctors will not allow Giles to play if he is not ready to go. It is not K's call. It is Giles, his family and his doctors call.
BTW, Duke could have Blake Griffin coming to play power forward at Duke next year and I would still like their chances with Carter.
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