Yes you know who.....here’s a hintI’m confused lol. So is that contradiction? I’m lost. I don’t remember what crowd was in what. Never mind I think I understand now .
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Yes you know who.....here’s a hintI’m confused lol. So is that contradiction? I’m lost. I don’t remember what crowd was in what. Never mind I think I understand now .
Of course he is allowed to speak his mind and critique all he wants. But his words carry far more weight than random ass Duke fans on Twitter.All of the crap spewed by Duke “fans” towards Trevon and those same “fans” are mad he, too, has an opinion? Wow.
He can be critiqued by all, but can’t critique as well? Hmmmm
Of course he is allowed to speak his mind and critique all he wants. But his words carry far more weight than random ass Duke fans on Twitter.
If your opinion is “I’m going to defend Duval no matter what.” That’s actually not an opinion, that’s called a bias.According to random ass Duke fans, he’s a nobody anyway. So.....
If your opinion is “I’m going to defend Duval no matter what.” That’s actually not an opinion, that’s called a bias.
This is the bad that comes with the good. No one should be surprised for things like this to happen, especially when you have 3 alphas, or at least they think they are, then you bring in one toward the end of the summer. That's a lot of mouths for K to feed and keep happy.
Let's be real here too. He's 71. It's impressive that a man his age can relate as well as he can to kids 50+ years younger than he is. I know he says he feels good, but these last two seasons have got to have taken their toll on him, and not just physically.
I also can't help but wonder if K wanted to go a slightly different route with recruiting. Just wondering if he felt Capel and him weren't seeing eye to eye. Possible that K wants to blend more talent with experience. I also find it hard to believe that a man as hardcore as he was for close to 40 years wouldn't be disappointed that the style of defense that made him famous would have to be abandoned in favor of zone, plus he couldn't coach the one and dones with the same fire as he is used to.
Bolden had a great week of practice at the McD's game, though he didn't play all that well in the actual game. Prior to that he was in the 15-30 range, which was a more accurate assessment of his ability. Getting off the bus, and going trough warm ups, Bolden looks like a top tier NBA C. He's nearly 7 ft tall, has a plus wingspan, and moves fairly well. But his hoops IQ isn't great. And the questions about his motor have proven prescient. He's basically a Plumlee, with better size, and a slower motor. A lot of Bolden's problems would be ameliorated if he played harder. Much harder.
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Semi was a kid that played vs a bunch of 6-3 farm kids that had no college level athleticism. Kansas didn't bother to recruit him, despite him being in state. Should have been a red flag. Further, he's had success at the NBA level because he embraced the role that K wanted him to embrace. Semi left because he didn't want to play like that, only to later realize that was how he had to play.
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Duval was a poor job by K. We should have run PnR. And not only would it have been better for TD, it would have been better for Duke. Our best game last year was vs MSU, and we played well vs KU when TD was more aggressive. Bags was an unnecessary addition, and I really hope he does well in the NBA, because he didn't really help Duke. What he gave us on O and the boards, he largely gave back on D. Really, the only person truly hurt by Duke running PnR was Allen, and heaven knows we were never going to employ such a strategy.
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But you are dead on about last year. The 16-17 year was a horrifically bad coaching job by K. If not for the existence of that clunker, LAST year would have been his worst job. It was bad, K was just lucky that it followed a much worse year.
The issue is not one of "rights". Players indisputably can say whatever they want. The issue is, rather, whether they should say what they do. That issue is answered differently for an individual fan who has no following, than it is for a nationally recognized athlete who knows or should know that his words may be picked up by the media and may have negative repercussions on others. If you think Trevon should have said what he did, then fine, Q. I disagree.
I'd say this is much different than the McCants situation. For starters, McCants made his comments as a full-grown 30+ year old adult. Trevon is 19 years old. Also, McCants blatently disrespected his school and the athletics program. Trevon is basically saying "I was done wrong." Big difference IMO.
I believe that the people who disrespect Trevon on Twitter and on message boards are complete idiots, especially if you consider yourself to be a Duke fan. At the same time, I think Trevon should be mature enough, and be able to handle the criticicism that comes with being a Duke Point Guard. No one wins here.
I don’t think teams had him late in the 2nd before...Is it possible some of his immaturity on twitter showed during combine. Maybe he trashed everyone instead of talking about what he needed to improve on and GMs that may have like him late 1st round on talent alone decided to pass. Like you said he has very right to say It but should he.
Talented players come out every year. And tre was one of these. But the nba has to look at more than just talent.
Tre improved and played hard most of the time. Pre immediate gratification, he would come back one more year and make a big jump.
Just like us lmaoI agree with you here. I am not bashing the Duke program because I grew up in a household of Duke grads, but all I am saying is cut this kid a break. He played hard every game and did his best. He should be allowed to speak his mind without everyone piling on him.
No, that's not how public discourse in a free society is supposed to work.He should be allowed to speak his mind without everyone piling on him.
Last November, before the season got started, just about every mock draft had Duval pegged as a late 1st rounder. At the time, I thought it was ridiculous for the #1 PG recruit in the country to NOT be a projected lottery pick, but clearly the projections were correct and his shooting caused him to keep falling.
Good post Denver. Hard to keep everyone happy, but makes it worse when you have 4 studs. Tough job for K to massage these egos. Almost like coaching pros.[serious] It really must be a hard situation for a young guy having all the expectations of millions and fame, and then realize whoa, Bagley, Carter, Trent and Allen all really need the ball a bunch too. I'm sure that was a rough emotional slide seeing his minutes fall off, but K still went to him in the Tourney and he did pretty well.
Duval is most impressive in the open court and when he can iso. up top and try and beat his man. He really would've benefited playing at a school with more screeners and spot up shooters. Instead he had to navigate a team of 4 guys that are all in the NBA right now because of their ability to create on offense, including 2 lottery picks that camped in the lane.
And if he had a jump shot his earnings would be much much more. His last few contracts have all been 1 year deals on minimum salaries.Rondo sure is making some good money in the NBA
Good thing he has them other strengths in his game to rely on.And if he had a jump shot his earnings would be much much more. His last few contracts have all been 1 year deals on minimum salaries.
It amazes me how many players get “held back” by coaches.
It would seem to go against their main job requirement of trying to win.
I don’t even waste my time.Categorize yourself when you spew that speculative slop please!
Reason I get pissed is becuase he’s over there on his pontoon boat, and think (we) are all on it with him! No, you are at sea, and the rest of us are waving from the beach as you toot your horn!I don’t even waste my time.
Good post. A bit lengthy for my eyes, but a lot of good substance.If we'd won, anything, last year, no one would say this. We didn't win, anything, last year. When the team's year is a notable failure, and ours was last year, then you look back and ask "what if." Maybe K running a system that didn't feature TD (and Grayson) driving more hurt us in the long run.
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K's main job is to win games and develop players, in that order. Well, we didn't win last year. So maybe it is a valid complaint that K mishandled TD and Carter.
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In K's defense, Carter didn't look great his senior year of HS. He wasn't in shape, and didn't look great in the All Star Circuit. K got worried about post production and went after Bags. Bolden and Javin were the only two other options, and Bolden is shakey, while Jav needed more time/development. Given what K knew at the time, that was the correct decision to bring in Bags. In retrospect, we know it was the wrong decision. Bags was great on O, but not in a structured sense. Every body castigates TD for wanting helter skelter, but Bags only wanted to hang out in the post while everyone else magically got him the ball in perfect position without Bags really having to do all that much. While playing no d whatsoever, but really cleaning up on the boards.
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If K had known that we'd see the much fitter and more focused Carter, as opposed to the sloppy, out of shape, unmotivated version of Carter on display his entire senior year, well, he wouldn't have gone after Bags. Given what he knew at the time, K was correct to go after Bags. Heck, if our nominal perimeter shooters hadn't been incredibly streaky, it still would have worked out OK. But Carter was much better as a Duke Frosh compared to HS senior, our shooters refused to be consistent, and Bags refused to play D while camping out in the low post and killing all movement.
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TD wasn't perfect, but he's being given the lion's share of blame when the reality is, he was far down the list of those responsible for last year's failings. I think he, and Carter (who this base LIT UP for that miss in the Elite 8), are a little mad that other players, who are far more responsible for last year's failures, are given passes, while they TD and Carter, are unfairly blamed.
A lot of good substance huh? That’s your only gripe? Lmao sheesh I’m going to bed...Good post. A bit lengthy for my eyes, but a lot of good substance.
My only gripe is I don't think K took Bagley because he was worried about Carter, I think K took Bagley because Bagley wanted to come play for the GOAT, and K knew how much better he could potentially make Duke.