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Do you trust that I am telling the truth when I say I want that list of things for children, both my own and others' children?
I don't question your heart, datt. I just question a lot of your views. I won't get personal with it. We've done that enough over the years.
 
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We're here, we're queer and we're coming for your children. Wow. That's a hell of a chant. Has a ring to it.
 
I don't question your heart, datt. I just question a lot of your views. I won't get personal with it. We've done that enough over the years.
Oh it’s personal here. He’s the first to kick others when they’re down here, and then he’s a closet Duke fan that threw Duke under the bus at the end of the year.

But hey, it’s more quiet when she takes her “mental health break”, fortunately which is likely coming soon 😊
 
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"We''ll convert your children... we'll make them tolerant and fair."
"We'll convert your children to the gay lifestyle."

Do you see any difference?
Do you sing that to your kids at night?


That’s the most groomer sounding thing ever.. groomer
 
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"We''ll convert your children... we'll make them tolerant and fair."
"We'll convert your children to the gay lifestyle."

Do you see any difference?
It's not their job to make anyone else's children tolerant of their sex lives. It's inappropriate and it is setting back social acceptance in a major way. This whole pride thing has gone too far and it's getting to the point where most people are sick of seeing and hearing about it. Just live your life the way you see fit and leave the children out of it.
 
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It's not their job to make anyone else's children tolerant of their sex lives. It's inappropriate and it is setting back social acceptance in a major way. This whole pride thing has gone too far and it's getting to the point where most people are sick of seeing and hearing about it. Just live your life the way you see fit and leave the children out of it.
Overwhelmingly, they're not presenting details about their actual sex lives any more than the visibility of my wedding ring or your wedding ring is.

There's an onion headline gag that says "Gay Pride Parade Sets Mainstream Acceptance of Gays Back 50 Years." I can laugh at "my side" and recognize that yeah, being all twerky thong-thong in people's faces is a bad PR move (an enormous understatement, to be clear); do you similarly see how ridiculous it would be to judge all LGBTQ+ people based on an annual parade? Are you able to see "your side" in that and laugh about it at all? Is there any humbleness and extension of grace, good will, benefit of the doubt, etc, that you glean from any of that?

I don't think you actually object to people's advocating for things like tolerance, among other things. I mean, take "gratitude," for example... yeah, if some stranger in public leans in and reminds my kid to say "thank you" before I can, I might feel a little salty, but it wouldn't be about the actual lesson being taught, you know? And I'd probably grimace and say, "Thank you, kind stranger," in all caps, rather than "MYOB!!1! GTMLO!!1!" Right? I mean, I know you and I have kids who are at ridiculously different ages, but is that at all relatable?
 
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Overwhelmingly, they're not presenting details about their actual sex lives any more than the visibility of my wedding ring or your wedding ring is.

There's an onion headline gag that says "Gay Pride Parade Sets Mainstream Acceptance of Gays Back 50 Years." I can laugh at "my side" and recognize that yeah, being all twerky thong-thong in people's faces is a bad PR move (an enormous understatement, to be clear); do you similarly see how ridiculous it would be to judge all LGBTQ+ people based on an annual parade? Are you able to see "your side" in that and laugh about it at all? Is there any humbleness and extension of grace, good will, benefit of the doubt, etc, that you glean from any of that?

I don't think you actually object to people's advocating for things like tolerance, among other things. I mean, take "gratitude," for example... yeah, if some stranger in public leans in and reminds my kid to say "thank you" before I can, I might feel a little salty, but it wouldn't be about the actual lesson being taught, you know? And I'd probably grimace and say, "Thank you, kind stranger," in all caps, rather than "MYOB!!1! GTMLO!!1!" Right? I mean, I know you and I have kids who are at ridiculously different ages, but is that at all relatable?
Watching you trying to justify things like the videos/articles above is absolutely comical 😂. Almost good as when you were fighting for mandatory vaccines/jabs - looking back now it’s awesome to see how painfully wrong you were.
 
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Will you answer my actual question, or are you just trolling?

Your actual question? Let’s see…

I do not believe my children should be subject to such perverse sinful lifestyles at an early age.. I realize we can’t protect our children forever but there is absolutely no reason anyone under middle school should have to even think about this stuff
 
Overwhelmingly, they're not presenting details about their actual sex lives any more than the visibility of my wedding ring or your wedding ring is.

There's an onion headline gag that says "Gay Pride Parade Sets Mainstream Acceptance of Gays Back 50 Years." I can laugh at "my side" and recognize that yeah, being all twerky thong-thong in people's faces is a bad PR move (an enormous understatement, to be clear); do you similarly see how ridiculous it would be to judge all LGBTQ+ people based on an annual parade? Are you able to see "your side" in that and laugh about it at all? Is there any humbleness and extension of grace, good will, benefit of the doubt, etc, that you glean from any of that?

I don't think you actually object to people's advocating for things like tolerance, among other things. I mean, take "gratitude," for example... yeah, if some stranger in public leans in and reminds my kid to say "thank you" before I can, I might feel a little salty, but it wouldn't be about the actual lesson being taught, you know? And I'd probably grimace and say, "Thank you, kind stranger," in all caps, rather than "MYOB!!1! GTMLO!!1!" Right? I mean, I know you and I have kids who are at ridiculously different ages, but is that at all relatable?
The wedding ring comparison is hilarious. But that's whatever. I don't approve of trashy women twerking in kids faces any more than I do some freak in a sex costume with a fake penis having children play with it. My biggest issue is with the parents who purposely expose their children to this behavior. My question here is, do parents typically bring their children to premeditated events where women in thongs arr twerking?

You always seem to be a big apples to apples guy. Do you think flamboyantly gay men angrily saying they are coming for your children to force them to be tolerant of their sexual lifestyle is apples to apples with someone rudely telling your child to say thank you?

They aren't looking to be treated equally. They want special treatment. And no, this isn't ALL gay people and it very well may not even be most gay people. But we are talking about the specific group of gay people who are publicly disgusting in their behavior and who are targeting children as an audience. And the parents who expose their children to it.

I do not condone intolerance of someone's lifestyle. But I don't accept the public display of sexual fantasies, whether gay or straight, as something that should be tolerated. I don't care if it is just one parade a year or a hundred.
 
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It's okay guys. They've been saying it for years. That makes it okay.

 
Your actual question? Let’s see…

I do not believe my children should be subject to such perverse sinful lifestyles at an early age.. I realize we can’t protect our children forever but there is absolutely no reason anyone under middle school should have to even think about this stuff
So that’s a no. You won’t answer the question.
 
Your actual question? Let’s see…

I do not believe my children should be subject to such perverse sinful lifestyles at an early age.. I realize we can’t protect our children forever but there is absolutely no reason anyone under middle school should have to even think about this stuff
I totally agree Pisgah. I have not understood why anyone’s sex life needs to be made public, let alone introduced to kids. All this crap about how we’re supposed to celebrate and accept LGBTQ (whatever) is ridiculous. Hell, they have a hard time accepting their selves, but they want everyone else to celebrate them. Keep this crap out of schools and away from children is all I want. What adults do behind closed doors is their business.
 
Your actual question? Let’s see…

I do not believe my children should be subject to such perverse sinful lifestyles at an early age.. I realize we can’t protect our children forever but there is absolutely no reason anyone under middle school should have to even think about this stuff
Sin isn’t a real thing and it should have no bearing on how we run the country or what people should be able to do(See the first sentence of the First Amendment).

You understand if you Republicans would stop attacking people and trying to take away their rights then the Pride stuff would cease to be as big a deal as it is, right? But you won’t stop so they can’t stop.

Stop shoving your nose where it doesn’t belong and you won’t see shit you don’t want to see.
 
(1)The wedding ring comparison is hilarious. But that's whatever. I don't approve of trashy women twerking in kids faces any more than I do some freak in a sex costume with a fake penis having children play with it. My biggest issue is with the parents who purposely expose their children to this behavior. My question here is, do parents typically bring their children to premeditated events where women in thongs arr twerking?

(2)You always seem to be a big apples to apples guy. Do you think flamboyantly gay men angrily saying they are coming for your children to force them to be tolerant of their sexual lifestyle is apples to apples with someone rudely telling your child to say thank you?

(3)They aren't looking to be treated equally. They want special treatment. And no, this isn't ALL gay people and it very well may not even be most gay people. But we are talking about the specific group of gay people who are publicly disgusting in their behavior and who are targeting children as an audience. And the parents who expose their children to it.

(4)I do not condone intolerance of someone's lifestyle. But I don't accept the public display of sexual fantasies, whether gay or straight, as something that should be tolerated. I don't care if it is just one parade a year or a hundred.
1. I won't double-down on the wedding ring analogy if it's not going to further understanding here. My point is that if two people are doing the same thing, it's inconsistent and illogical to say that only one of them is shoving it in our faces. You are consistent re: "trashy women" and "freak in a sex costume," so good on you... it's also true that a gay couple holding hands is regularly treated differently from a straight couple holding hands. In too many cases, the mere existence of a gay person will get some conservatives all worked up.

2. No, I don't think it's a perfect apples-to-apples comparison, but being as prone to disagreement as we are, I'm inclined to step back and use examples that might establish any common ground.

There is a huge difference between "forcing" and "teaching." While they are obviously trolling conservative fear of their sexual lifestyle, that has no inherent connection to tolerance and fairness. You're using language that spins, inflames, and divides when you say "angrily" (they're being light-hearted), "force," "...of their sexual lifestyle," and in your third paragraph, "targeting." Let's not conflate "sometimes boys like boys" with "lemme tell you about butt seks."

3. We could go back-and-forth all day about equal v special, or about the exact % of gay people. You're acknowledging it isn't all and that it may not even be most, so I'm fine w/ leaving that alone. I agree w/ you that certain public behaviors are objectionable. As parents, we have a lot of control over what our kids are exposed to, but we have even more control over framing it. I don't see the same likelihood of harm in it.

4. I get your point about one v a hundred. I feel the same way about different issues, The frequency should matter as far as how much energy we spend on it, though. That should be proportional. If we're being polite, you'd probably tell me that about incidents of racism. I'm saying it to you here.
 
I totally agree Pisgah. I have not understood why anyone’s sex life needs to be made public, let alone introduced to kids. All this crap about how we’re supposed to celebrate and accept LGBTQ (whatever) is ridiculous. Hell, they have a hard time accepting their selves, but they want everyone else to celebrate them. Keep this crap out of schools and away from children is all I want. What adults do behind closed doors is their business.
Do you understand why "Black pride" is acceptable but "white pride" isn't, or do you think they're equivalent?
 
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Do you understand why "Black pride" is acceptable but "white pride" isn't, or do you think they're equivalent?
All I care about is the human race. I’ve never understood why we have to check what race we are on applications of any kind, accept to give a leg up to the minorities. Our government has ruined this nation. People use to take pride in themselves and work hard for what they have. Now almost 60% want a handout and it’s the Democrats that push this agenda.
 
Sin isn’t a real thing and it should have no bearing on how we run the country or what people should be able to do(See the first sentence of the First Amendment).

You understand if you Republicans would stop attacking people and trying to take away their rights then the Pride stuff would cease to be as big a deal as it is, right? But you won’t stop so they can’t stop.

Stop shoving your nose where it doesn’t belong and you won’t see shit you don’t want to see.
So what happens when Independents like myself disagree with you, and agree with them? Ouch.
 
All I care about is the human race. I’ve never understood why we have to check what race we are on applications of any kind, accept to give a leg up to the minorities. Our government has ruined this nation. People use to take pride in themselves and work hard for what they have. Now almost 60% want a handout and it’s the Democrats that push this agenda.
You're all over the place. None of that addresses what I asked.

I'll try again: Let's take two people, for example... same height, same frame, but one of them is at the so-called ideal, healthy weight, and one of them is 70 pounds heavier. If that heavier person works hard and loses 50 pounds, do you see why they might be more excited about bathing suit season, even though they're still 20 pounds heavier?
 
Sin isn’t a real thing and it should have no bearing on how we run the country or what people should be able to do(See the first sentence of the First Amendment).

You understand if you Republicans would stop attacking people and trying to take away their rights then the Pride stuff would cease to be as big a deal as it is, right? But you won’t stop so they can’t stop.

Stop shoving your nose where it doesn’t belong and you won’t see shit you don’t want to see.
What rights are we taking away? Bio men not being able to compete in women’s sports? The banning of the genital mutilation of minors? Please elaborate. Why are many Socialist European nations enacting similar bans? Have they been infiltrated by Maga Republicans at the highest levels of govt? This is really about pushing the envelope. Once Gay marriage became accepted by a slight majority they had to move the goalposts to stay relevant
 
You're all over the place. None of that addresses what I asked.

I'll try again: Let's take two people, for example... same height, same frame, but one of them is at the so-called ideal, healthy weight, and one of them is 70 pounds heavier. If that heavier person works hard and loses 50 pounds, do you see why they might be more excited about bathing suit season, even though they're still 20 pounds heavier?
Hey, it’s 5 o’clock somewhere
 
What rights are we taking away? Bio men not being able to compete in women’s sports? The banning of the genital mutilation of minors? Please elaborate. Why are many Socialist European nations enacting similar bans? Have they been infiltrated by Maga Republicans at the highest levels of govt? This is really about pushing the envelope. Once Gay marriage became accepted by a slight majority they had to move the goalposts to stay relevant
There has been some talk about overturning Obergefell, for example. "Don't say gay" laws and book-banning and things like that also raise concerns about rights being taken away.
 
There has been some talk about overturning Obergefell, for example. "Don't say gay" laws and book-banning and things like that also raise concerns about rights being taken away.
Teaching about gays to 6 and 7 years is not a right and is perverse which is what DeSantis’ law addressed. Don’t regurgitate MSNBC talking points here without reading the law
 
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