I do have kids not sure how I didn’t answer that.. and if they could be friends with whoever but they’d know that’s wrong if they brought it to my attention and they wouldn’t be able to go to the kids house
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I do have kids not sure how I didn’t answer that.. and if they could be friends with whoever but they’d know that’s wrong if they brought it to my attention and they wouldn’t be able to go to the kids house
What’s the difference between having a classmate with two dads and there being a book in the classroom featuring a character with two dads?
The latter is part of an approved curriculum (or at the least chosen by a govt employee); the former is a classmate who has a right to attend public school regardless of her parents’ lifestyle. That’s like saying what’s the difference between a tiger and a frog?
Would the classmate be allowed to talk about their family and home life?
Would pisgah’s kids be allowed to repeat the lesson he taught them about how that is wrong?
I promise you.. where I live my kid wouldn’t be alone in calling it what it is.. sin. As for a book that shouldn’t be allowed in a classroom
And In what world is a kid giving a lesson on their “two dads”
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“Lesson”? Kids talk about their lives. It’s no more a lesson or “being shoved in your face” than it is when your kid talks about their home life.
Should your kid and others be allowed to refer to that classmate’s home life as sinful at school?
What it’s doing is screwing up that kid. We are doing a good enough job of messing up our kids today as it is, and that’s without little Timmy talking about his 2 “dads” Lenny and Sherman.
Say what you want, but our tolerance in this country is beyond shameful.
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"Sexual orientation as a protection under the Constitution is a stretch." This is your opinion. The opinion of gay rights activists is exactly the opposite. Your question had to do w/ legal rights gay people wanted, not to name a right you want them to have. I answered your question.
"Gay rights have progressed faster than voting rights ever did! So hard to scream discrimination."
This is called "what-about-ism." Instead of addressing the topic at hand, you are pointing at something else as a distraction and illogical comparison. I say good for our country that we're moving more quickly when it comes to rights.
Black people had the right to vote before women did. Is it therefore hard for Black people to "scream" discrimination, too? (The very phrase "scream discrimination" reveals your bias. It deliberately insinuates that it is frivolous.)
"Removing another religion's rights should not be the basis for granting what you think Gay rights are needed."
It has always been permissible to limit the manifestation of religion in certain ways. Religious business owners are not allowed to refuse to do business w/ Black people on the basis of religion. In many states, they can refuse to do business w/ gay people. If the changing the latter would be "removing another religion's rights," the former has already done so. Gay people believe they should be treated like the former.
Also, this is not about what *I* think is needed. As I have explained very clearly several times now, your question had to do w/ what rights gay people are fighting for. I answered your question. A right you do not think they should have does not change the fact they are fighting for it.
"And right to Adopt...didnt you just ask if someone was ok with letting their kids play with a friend who had two dads...so they most likely adopted right?" This is like saying racism is over b/c we had a Black President. And the answer is not necessarily. I would venture a guess that in the great majority of 2 dad and 2 mom homes, one parent is the biological parent of the child and the other is a stepparent. With heterosexual parents, a stepparent may adopt their stepchild. That is not the case in many states when that stepparent is gay.
"Repeating claims that have no basis in fact isnt a great way to support your point" As I have explained very clearly several times now, your question had to do w/ what rights gay people are fighting for. I answered your question.
"I'm out but enjoyed the debate." It wasn't a debate. You asked a question. I gave factual answers. The end.
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"It wasn't a debate. You asked a question. I gave factual answers. The end."
I know, I was being generous...you are incapable of debate as you continue to prove with every post
Remember this quote? lol -You do not change people's minds by defeating them with logic. Trying to change someone only makes them cling to their existing behavior with brutish, primal force
You asked what gay people are fighting for. I answered factually. There is no debate to be had any more than there is a debate that the US Constitution exists. That we may wish to amend it or that we dislike parts of it has no bearing on its existence.
I recognize the quotation or some paraphrase thereof. I do not know its source. As advice directed at me, yes, my ironclad logic is not getting anywhere with you.
Unfortunately you are trapped in the prison of two ideas. For me to be right you have to be wrong and vice versa, and you aren't capable of acknowledging that...you epitomize why the country is divided...right and wrong are the only standards we accept now so we divide each other along those ideological lines. However, there are no or few absolutes outside of science...the grey areas between one sides right and the other side wrong is where we need to get to so that we can all agree...to do that you have to be open to different perspectives. I hope you will try that at some point. And i can acknowledge i have my own work to do here as well...we all do.
I thought you implied them doing a lesson on their home life.. yeah why couldn’t he or she talk about their home life? You’re turning this into something it’s not.. if my kid comes homes and says
“Johnny said he has two dads” I’d explain to them yeah well Johnny doesn’t really.. same as if they said “Johnny said he’s Muslim and believes in allah” I’d explain to them that’s a false religion…
“Johnny said his parents voted for (insert generic liberal)” I would explain johnnys parents can vote for who they want but they’re wrong
For years I thought Bush, McCain, Romney... were the good guys, and the Clintons, Obama, Biden... were bad. I couldn't have been more wrong. All of them are bad. I'll get blow back on this, but the one we have to thank for helping open many eyes? Trump. That's a fact.
Most of the people I know have basically the same opinion. We all lean right of middle. The problem is the folks leaning left of middle keep digging their feet in. Ironically, lockstep with the media.
It’s amazing watching the mental hoops you’ll jump through to spin positive shit about Trump. He was unequivocally the biggest joke of a President this country has ever seen, and somehow even worse as a general human being, and you still defend him. Unreal.
To lunatics like yourself, we will never be tolerant enough. Some of you weirdos are already opening the idea of reducing the age of consent drastically. In other words, tolerating pedophelia.
Trump can be the things you say he is and still be right about the people who Mac brought up.
We get aggravated on this board by this new troll @eldritchorifice, and our resident lib @Dattier. Just imagine standing in front of a room full of them, or them having a camera and audience in front of them. Trump did it for 4 years.
Libs won't even call Biden what he is, which is an old mush brained, career criminal, with a VP that may be dumber than he is. So they've got no credibility in my book.
Libs won't even call Biden what he is, which is an old mush brained, career criminal, with a VP that may be dumber than he is. So they've got no credibility in my book.
Nah tolerating pedophilia is the realm of conservatives.
Catholic Church sexual abuse cases - Wikipedia
Donald Trump Fantasized About Having Sex With Ivanka, New Book Says
An ex-Trump staffer details the lewd comments Trump regularly made about his daughter’s body.
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And? Trump didn’t open anyone’s eyes, unless that person had them locked up tighter than ADX Florence.
Trump was the most transparent President we ever had. Sure he loves the limelight, but he never shied away from questions. Heck, you liberals cheer on Biden and he can’t even speak a coherent sentence. Mac is right, he did make everyone aware of the bias media. Anyone who can’t see that is brainwashed.
Typical.Nah tolerating pedophilia is the realm of conservatives.
Catholic Church sexual abuse cases - Wikipedia
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Donald Trump Fantasized About Having Sex With Ivanka, New Book Says
An ex-Trump staffer details the lewd comments Trump regularly made about his daughter’s body.
I'll say it again, either this @eldritchorifice is doing a masterful job at trolling, or he's the most incompetent poster ever on the board. The room he stays in is dangerously low in oxygen.
He reminds me of that one grungy poster @Crest is Garbage. I pray there's not 2 of them.
There’s more than 81 million of us. In this country alone! Not counting our evil progeny!!
We “cheer” on Biden(not really) because he’s instituted policy we support. We do not attend rallies and make Joe Biden our entire personality, unlike an alarming amount of Republicans have done with Rump.
I didn’t realize there was about 40% of you nut jobs in this country.
The child diddler who is part of the Catholic church that you literally just tried to associate with conservatives. Even though it is almost evenly split politically. Not to mention, neither the catholic church, nor Trump had anything to do with the topic that was being discussed.
And yet, shockingly, inflation happened after he left office. As did our loss of energy independence. Pure coincidence that Russia invaded Ukraine after he left office right? You clearly are affected by TDS so you are taken seriously by no one.
Biden has been compromised and China is emboldened. If he wins in 24 they’ll likely take over Taiwan
Nah tolerating pedophilia is the realm of conservatives.
Catholic Church sexual abuse cases - Wikipedia
Donald Trump Fantasized About Having Sex With Ivanka, New Book Says
An ex-Trump staffer details the lewd comments Trump regularly made about his daughter’s body.
The Catholic Church doesn’t represent my views buddy and the Catholics I know don’t condone sexual abuse.. neither does anyone else I know. So odd progressive reprobates think like this
Here in NC, the age of consent is 16. I am not in favor of lowering it, and have not heard of anyone interested in lowering it. Who are you referring to, specifically, and where?
I'm asking questions. I haven't turned anything into something it's not.
Should your child be allowed to return to school and state that Johnny's homelife is sinful?
If Johnny had a mom, and a stepfather who had not officially adopted him, would you correct your child if they referred to Johnny's stepfather as "Johnny's father," leaving off the "step-" part?
Do you make any distinction between a "different religion" and a "false religion"? (And is that the exact language you would use? In this context, to me, "false" means it doesn't even exist, like Salamiism. Islam most certainly exists.) Same question regarding voting: Would you teach your child that people who voted for the other candidate were wrong, regardless, or are some differences just... differences? Like, is every divergence from how you do things "wrong"? Holding hands v holding your own hands during a prayer, for example?
I'm asking all of this sincerely. I'm trying to find common ground.
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That poster has a grand total of 45 posts at the moment I'm typing this. And they're the most incompetent poster ever on this board?
I think you've said the same thing about me at least 8 times, and I've seen you say it about other posters many times more than that, too.
It reminds me of how you and others were declaring President Biden the worst, most incompetent, most corrupt, etc, before he'd even finished a single year in office.
Do you ever pump the brakes? Do you ever pause? Have you ever encountered anything short of 100% agreement w/ you that was more than 0.000etc% acceptable?
It's fascinating to me how you -- of all people -- edited the post you were replying to, and where you went with your reply. I mean, the quotation marks kinda cover it, but just to be clear, they followed what you've quoted w/ the parenthetical "not really," clearly distancing themselves from anything approaching a rousing endorsement. They then go on to say something I heard you, specifically, say all the time about President Trump: that you did not condone his personal behavior, but you approved of the policies he supported.
Did you not recognize yourself in that in any way? Did you even read that far? Or was the "child diddler" card just burning a hole through your hands and you had to play it regardless?
If kids are too young to have a book in their classroom w/ a character who has two dads on the basis that it has something to do w/ gay sex, wouldn't you be the one throwing someone else's sex life in your own child's face if you did this?
Not at all.. I would simply explain people do not have two dads.. a mom (birthing person? I think you call them) exist or did exist for this person to live.. even a 2 year old knows babies come only from women.
You do you keep moving the goalpost for my answer to “work” for you. If you genuinely are trying to find common ground I don’t believe it’ll happen.. however I’ll keep answering as of now.
Why would my child not be allowed to go back to school? I never gave indication of that
I highly doubt I would know the end and outs of johnnys step dad/dad situation but if I knew johnnys parents ( mom, dad, step dad) yeah I would tell them that’s his step dad not his biological father
As for religion- I agree Islam is an actual religion, I call it false in its doctrine, it’s god, everything.. however it does exist, but you know that.
As for voting yes I would say some people believe differently then us(same as religion) but this is what we believe in this household.. as for other things no my way isn’t the only way however I’m not bending on something that truly matters as In religion or politics. But I’m all for you having the freedom to worship/vote for whomever you’d like
