Books on 2 dads shouldn’t be in any school. We have to draw a line somewhere. This is absurd.
Kids shouldn’t be reading about dads Lenny and Sherman.
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Kids shouldn’t be reading about dads Lenny and Sherman.
If you're acknowledging it's more subjective than that, that's a yes to what I was trying to ask, which is encouraging in my book.
I had typed up a long paragraph arguing the bathroom thing before remembering that's pointless. I'll just address that last sentence, about intolerance of conservative lifestyles: Where I see that intolerance is where conservatives are attempting to impose their values on others. Opposing marriage equality is probably the best example I can think of over the last decade. If part of your "lifestyle" involves bossing others around, you aren't entitled to that. And yes, I see examples of that on the left, too, w/ cancel culture, for example, which absolutely exists in some form or another.
There isn't a Christian alive who gets perfectly right how Jesus wants us to be, and there are also a lot of Christians who get it not-even-close to right.
Besides, I didn't say "yell." There are lots of ways kids can and do quietly stand up for their beliefs in school. In this case, though, telling another kid the very construct of their family is sinful is justifiably going to feel like an attack,
I've been in education for over 27 years now. This kind of stuff happens a lot. Way more than outsiders know. And it IS complicated. I know the way I lean on this makes it easy to lose sight of my concern for pisgah's kids, for example, but I care about them, too. Handling things like this in a classroom is really difficult and you want everyone to come out okay, so a whole, whole bunch of thinking goes into it.
If I were talking to a structural engineer about something, I would expect their explanation or concern about a certain project to be more complicated than my take on it. Not overcomplicated, but appropriately complicated.
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Not at all. I didn't say anything that wasn't true for the years Trump was in office. Times were better until they unleashed Covid on the world. The media tried to say otherwise.
Here's where I lose you, and I'm ok with that. Covid was also put out there to take Trump down.
Covid was not unleashed on the world because of Trump. You really, really believe Trump is the only one who can save us, don’t you?
I highlighted those phrases b/c you're essentially acknowledging you live in a bit of a bubble. I do, too, in certain ways. I'm aware of it. I don't think you are. It shows in how much you resort to superlatives and hyperbole.
I don't think that will happen and I don't think SCOTUS will get back to any semblance of balance, let alone leaning the way I want, in my lifetime.
The courts aren't going to save us. Imo, overturning Roe ultimately mitigated how big the expected "red wave" was in the midterm elections. Best we can hope for as I see it is that the make-up of SCOTUS will galvanize our side and we'll make up for it in the other branches. It's not entirely different from how President Obama's election gave rise to the Tea Party.
@eldritchorifice, I said Covid was ALSO put out there to harm him. Covid had multiple uses. Trump is the only one dabbling in politics that doesn't follow "their" agenda. I've laid it out here. That can't be proven as fact. What is fact is that we weren't in any wars during his time. And that upset some very powerful people. Why? They profit big time on those wars. Were gas prices and cost of living better? Again yes.
@Dattier, for the most part I do live in a bubble. I'm blessed to have the life I do, and also have compassion and empathy for those less fortunate. That ends when the subject of our media and government come up though. They are the ones causing the problems. You still lean that your side is the champion of aid. I think you believe what you say, but I feel it's delusional.
Neither one of you know how, or you refuse, to use the eye test.
I’m not worried about the court saving us. I’m worried about it burying us. They just set a precedent that discrimination against people on a religious basis is fine and then slammed down student debt forgiveness in the blink of an eye. Even if we do make up for it other branches, don’t know it that will be enough.
“Impose their values on others”. Hmmm. You mean like expecting others to use words like cisgender to make a tiny minority of the population feel better about themselves?
What you term marriage equality to others is redefining a sacred covenant I have no doubt that you truly believe that you are more tolerant and compassionate than others on this board including your incompetent protege Eldritch. That’s what scares me
I hope you’re happy. In this post I responded to entire phrases.
I thought that word spoke volumes about your outlook. We’re not parents, uncles, grandfathers, and certainly not taxpayers. We’re outsiders.
Yeh and after that call a new Constitutional Convention to start from scratch. Anything to stay in power right? Nothing the Dems can do should shock any of us at this point
In the first case the Court ruled that the business owners’ First Amendment rights had been violated.
In the second case that essentially the legislative branch has the power of the purse not the Pres.
You should really read the Constitution if you get a chance
That's just it, though: Living in a bubble skews your eye test. That's true for me and you. You only show compassion or empathy for those "less fortunate" w/ whom you agree. Not for the bullied, suicidal trans kid. Not for the bullied gay kid. Not for ANY Black person who claims they still experience racism.
Even w/ the media and the government, you're way over the top. I agreed w/ you a day or two ago that the media is corrupt. I see no sign that you acknowledge all of the incremental steps over several decades that have led good, decent people to make desperate compromises and small concessions that slowly, step-by-step led us to where we are today. No, you're still acting like there was a meeting where someone literally said, "Okay, how can we be more evil?"
If someone has an unusual, hard-to-pronounce name, does that mean it's only fair that you get to make up a nickname for them? Or should you show some human decency and respect and learn to pronounce their name right?
Expecting you to learn new vocabulary on the one hand... vs trying to forbid consenting adults from getting married in the eyes of the law. Tax breaks and hospital visitation are not "sacred," and your church is still allowed to turn away anybody they want. Not remotely the same. False equivalency.
Yeah, people on the left who are impatient and who lack compassion when people struggle with pronouns are jerks. People on the left who cancel others for misspeaking are jerks.
Tell me where in the First Amendment it says you can refuse service on the basis of sexual orientation. The First Amendment would actually not work in the women’s favor at all as it protects everyone else from having to abide by any certain religion.
Your religion is just that, yours. No one else cares or must abide by it.
In the second case, we have a clear example of incredible hypocrisy from the court. Those PPP loans I mentioned earlier? 99.8% forgiven. Including ones to mega corporations. They totaled over $800 billion.
But $400 billion for the working class? Don’t even think about it.
You're also people who just saw something on the Internet and decided to have an opinion. What's a better way to say that in as few words as possible? Do you spend hours every day in classrooms? Shoot, to the classroom teacher, even the person who spends hours every day going in and out of numerous classrooms across multiple schools is an outsider, of sorts.
Does "others" work for you? If I wrote "others" on a piece of paper and put it under a big stack of mattresses, would you be able to sleep at night?
I mean Trump tried to overturn the will of the majority through insurrection so, why not?
So you think the student loan forgiveness was helping the working class? Nope. It’s not fair to borrowers in the past who paid theirs back or fair to future generations. It was a one time deal to help win the midterm elections of 22. Even Nancy Pelosi stated that it wouldn’t pass constitutional muster. Fortunately for Biden we have an entire generation unfamiliar with the Constitution so they fell for it
We all should show compassion for everyone. I’m sure everyone has been bullied at some point in their life. You act like only certain groups are bullied. Believe it or not, white people experience racism as well.
We’re not “struggling with pronouns” or “misspeaking”. We’re refusing to cater to delusional people who you may pander to, but most of society is not playing these semantic games. Your post is condescending to put it mildly. You’re basically saying we don’t mean to be insensitive we just don’t know any better.
We’re fully aware what pronouns they want us to use; I refuse. Take your crazy somewhere else; we’re all stocked up here
This post is awful. Talk about opinion vs reality. Let's take this by the paragraph. Your first one is so wrong about me. And you say I think my opinion is fact? You're basically saying since I disagree with you, that I must be some sort of white supremist, while you champion the downtrodden. A TOTAL LIE. You have no idea how I feel about others.
How do you know I'm not sympathetic to a bullied kid, or a suicidal trans kid, or any black person that claims they experience racism? I may think a trans kid has mental issues, but I feel compassion for them. I feel for anyone that's suicidal too. I lost a good friend of mine almost a year ago to suicide. And he was successful. A dad to a college senior and hs senior.
To get even more personal, which I have tried to keep my personal life off here, my ex wife battles mental illness and alcoholism. The last 5+ years have been hell. We have a child (teen now) together, whom I have full custody of. I've tried to help the ex, but to no avail. I'm trying to realize all I've done is enable her. None of what I'm telling you is for sympathy. Understanding maybe, but not sympathy. I've contributed to some of the mess I'm in. It's hard when you still care for someone. Real hard watching them struggle.
I struggle with what is choice and what is in the wiring when talking about those battling any form of mental issues. The only thing I do know is that most any success story with someone at a very low point in their life started to get better when they said something along the lines of "I have to do better."
Your 2nd paragraph is just my opinion vs yours. I think there is a bunch of sinister people that try to play God. You don't.
I’ll never understand the thinking behind “well the past generation had to, so, so do you”. It absolutely would help the working class people who had those loans though. More money in their pocket would 100% help and I’m not sure how you can even argue against that.
Trumps the one who invited Viking guy. And all the other guys and gals. Ridiculous dude.
Did he invite the FBI agents and informants that were there too?
Most of the beneficiaries aren’t from the working class. It’s as likely to help a doctors daughter studying art history at Brandeis than go to a plumbers son at State U who may be working his way through college and hopefully working towards a more practical degree.
We’re over 30 trillion in debt.
It creates a moral hazard.
Students polled said they would likely spend the money on trips clothes etc and not on rent and food. There are other reasons to argue against it; these were just off the top of my head since you asked
Damn. I’m over here worried about discrimination against minorities and you’re discriminating against art majors. That’s next level. So I guess my game art and animation degree I’m in the midst of earning are bs to you as well?
I love it when these clowns get mad at the SCOTUS for overturning unlawful orders, but not at presidents for ignoring the process of passing bills into laws. Trump had many EOs get overturned, I am sure these people were fine with it then.
Lol. You know what you’re getting into when you take out a loan or you’re just a dumbass. It’s a loan, you’re expected to pay it back. I guess I should not have to pay back my loan on my home or vehicles. It’s people like you that are always looking for handouts.
As long as I don’t have to pay for it it’s cool
This is what you got out of KD's post, that he is discriminating? You've got a long way to go. This thread is over your mental capacity.
