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None of the people who mentioned were born wealthy.You could argue that they were lucky but I believe they got it by working harder,and a willingness to take big risks.
Cmon Mac just because you have a business that keeps several people employed and provides a service to your hometown,how does that qualify you on commenting on the value of a business.You are just a evil selfish person lol
Believe what you want man, doesn’t change the facts. All it takes is a simple google search to show how they got their money.
Because everything out on the internet is true you know…..
Looked up these people to see if they inherited their money.Sam Walton grew up in the Depression and worked his way thru College by waiting on tables.Steve Ballmer came from a middle class family who was smart enough to go to Harvard and worked his way to become the CEO of a corporation which changed the way most people communicate..Jeff Bezos mother was 17 when he was born and to move back in with her father to survive.Elon Musk’s family was wealthy but he made his money not from family but by starting extremely successful companies.Why do liberals think that successful people are given their success rather than realizing that most billionaires got that way by being smarter and working harder than the average person.It must be hard that people like you are so insecure
Topps, stop it with the facts. Seriously, where’s his outrage at the politicians? He should look at their wealth once they’ve been in DC for a short time. Anyone with half a brain can see that.
Key part of your statement is anyone with half a brain.You are giving libs far to much credit
Sam Walton died in 1992. His children grew up rich and inherited the spoils. They're the entitled elite now. Also, minimum wage jobs in the summertime used to be enough to pay for college back in the day. Also-also, during the Great Depression, Walton's father's job was to foreclose on farms.
Steve Ballmer grew up in Farmington Hills, Michigan, which is a very, very wealthy place. He went to private schools. He got in on the ground floor with Microsoft.
Bezos' mother had a little Rumspringa; it doesn't change the fact that her father was well off. Bezos' adoptive father also worked hard and set young Jeff up for success. No one worth debating would deny that Bezos is brilliant and savvy and all that, but to insinuate he came from nothing b/c his parents were teenagers when they had him is disingenuous.
You acknowledge Musk was born into wealth.
I don't know why -- or that -- most liberals think successful people were "given their success." I'm not seeing much sign that you're acknowledging how much a leg-up matters. All 3 of Ballmer, Bezos, and Musk have talent and hard work on their side. It doesn't take away from that to acknowledge that they also got set up really nicely.
Personally, I don’t see the issue with people having a leg up due to their parent's success. Isn't that what we all want for our children?
Success to @Dattier is when a child is groomed to a point where they don’t know what gender they are, or which gender they like.
That's the problem with American politics. People can only worry about corruption on the other side and ignore it when it is staring them in the face on their side. Biden is a compromised foreign asset who used his position in the White House to enrich himself and his family. The only reason why it isn't that big of a deal is because he has the propaganda machine and the left to cover his ass. Every time a story that looks bad for Biden emerges, you know it's bad news for Trump. You can obsess with Trump all day. It would just be nice if you could acknowledge that your team is just as corrupt, if not more.
FTFY. And by the way, the vast, vast majority of Democratic voters don’t give two shits about Biden. You see any of us defending Hunter? We don’t vote for a team. We vote for Democrats because despite the fact that more than a few are corrupt, they’re only ones putting any sort of common sense policy into place, or have a platform about anything other than trying to stamp out half of American citizens rights.
We don’t particularly care for Democrats, and we certainly don’t worship them like Republicans do with Trump, they’re just the (far) lesser of two evils.
An ideal scenario over the next few years would see the Republican Party nearly fully dissolve due to the fact that people see through their culture war bullshit, and the Democrat party separate into multiple new parties. That way we can actually start to have multiple legitimate parties, instead of having the only good option be: avoid fascism.
Common sense:
- porous border
- putting white privilege over others (see Hunter)
- an inflation “reduction” act that actually worsens things long term
- allowing tranny shows on the White House grounds (with nudity of course)
- crushing the taxpayers to funnel money to ukraine
Gtfoh with your Leftist drivel. Even true Independents like myself, who really don’t like trump, will vote for him next time. Biden has set us back 40+ years.
Hopefully one day you grow up and realize how dumb you were when you look back at some of the stupid shit you got duped into believing.
I don't get the impression that you are comparing apples to apples.
I do not claim the Democratic elite as my "team," but okay: I hereby acknowledge that there is corruption on both sides, including my default side. I can't objectively attest to how much there is on either side, nor proportionately, but it's a lot.
Your turn.
I'm not a 'hooray for my side' guy. I don't believe there is a non-corrupt politician or party. I don't waste my time defending republicans, I waste my time shitting on the whacked out left. I align more policy wise, with ghe right. I absolutely despise the vision that the left has for our country. And I loathe the corporate media and education institutions with their relentless dedication to help the left poison minds. And hate the republicans because they are weak minded and cowards, generally speaking. Which allows the left to run the country into the gates of hell. Not religiously speaking.
-“Porous Border”. Biden sent 1,500 troops to the border to help with the migrants
-“White privilege”. Hunter plead guilty and worked out a deal
-How exactly did it make things worse?
-Biden banned the person who flashed
-“Crushed” the taxpayers with less than 10% of our defense budget to Ukraine?
Are you ever gonna debate policy or anything other than just call me an idiot? You never say why I’m an idiot or wrong. Just that I’m an idiot and I’m wrong.
You lost any argument using CNN as the source.
Either you're the best troll this board has had, or the most incompetent.
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There is no debating with insane people. There's just the hope that one day you will grow up and seek help.
Wow. You.. well never mind.
Biden sent 1,500 troops to the border to help with the hundreds of thousands of migrants he told to come here. 3 years later. Lol
I'm afraid that the arguments put forth are all the usual talking points from the left but the rebuts are actual facts...unfortunately facts are ignored for the most part, and partisanship rules the day. There is no room for debate anymore because one side sees the other as evil, while the other sees the opposing side as stupid.
“Trying to change someone only makes them cling to their existing behavior with brutish, primal force.”
― Brian D'Ambrosio
That's what I think of the party I more closely align with, too.
I bet if we both listed the values, outcomes, etc we'd like to see, we'd agree on most of them. That's the vision most people have, left to right.
In the details, there be the devil: how we get there and how we frame it.
I'm a small cog in the educational institution you speak of, and I know a lot of things that are messed up about it. I could offer assurance that it's not what you think it is, but I don't want to assume the details of what you think.
Oh come now, you can do better can’t you?
1.Encounters number is true but misleading. Encounters went up because Covid wasn’t as bad and there were more repeat offenders. Also, encounters mean the person was either apprehended or expelled. So, more encounters actually means that the government was doing a better job of keeping illegal immigrants out, not worse.
2. What?
3. The IRA was funded by closing tax loopholes for the ultra wealthy.
4.. Again, what?
Lmao, 1500 troops? That’s laughable.
“Worked out a deal” meaning if he was black, he’d face serious years behind bars.
Do you understand basic economics? Seriously?
Lol he “banned them” after allowing the environment to encourage it.
10%. Going to Ukraine? It’s more, and way more than needed. Nice try. You failed 😂
Yeah, so backing up to the macro is where I'd rather spend my energy for the time being.
@GhostOf301 , here's a list of things I bet we both want for children:
* basic necessities- food, clothes, shelter, clean drinking water, clean air, safety
* health care
* equitable access to resources
* quality education
* to be honorable, respectful, kind, hard-working, thoughtful, self-aware, independent, conscientious
* to do as little harm as possible
Agree?
Enough of the grooming references.
And you want to sterilize those who you confuse through grooming….
On the surface. Absolutely. When we start diving into how we get some of those, we will probably be facing away from each other. Which is fine, we're not supposed to agree on everything.
I want my child to have the necessities you mentioned. As she is dependent on her mother and I, I want to have the opportunity to provide for her without the assistance of the government. I want clean air/water too. Safety, obviously. But routinely public safety is sacrificed for posturing.
Healthcare. Yes. I am in a good position to provide great Healthcare through my employer. I don't want her Healthcare to be in the hands of bureaucrats and shady politics. As for the people who aren't as fortunate, there are programs.
It is a pretty broad statement when you say equitable access to resources. I can't fully agree with this.
My idea of quality education is probably more simple than yours. We don't need to go too deep.
The last two. Yes.
Yep, no need to go too deep. Best to keep it on the surface... at least initially.
"Equitable access to resources" is an admittedly tortured phrase. lol I was trying to make it as noncontroversial as possible w/o leaving it out completely. What you said about healthcare qualifies, imo: your daughter has great coverage through you, and there are programs for people who don't.
I'll put this out there about education... if we want children to grow into good critical thinkers, we have to challenge them and allow them to challenge back. That inherently involves some form of discomfort/friction and the possibility that they may end up making different choices from their parents/guardians. There are limits to how much control parents should have over curriculum.
Do you trust that I am telling the truth when I say I want that list of things for children, both my own and others' children?
