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He took showers with his pubescent daughter. What part of this did you miss?
I know dammit. I wish I could be as open minded and tolerant as you libs are of Trump.
Or the dozens of videos of him inappropriately touching girls. It's at the very least, creepy. Definitely closer to pedophilic than it is to cute.
LOL...what's your go to line again, "Let go of the pearls". No one called your guy a Pedo, let's slow down on the hyperbole.
It is a well documented unhealthy attraction to kids. Exactly like your defense of exposing children to sexually explicit material.
Very very odd....
Erudite dunce: someone who is most likely highly educated, but low on intelligence. I'm about 99.999999% sure this fits @Dattier like a glove.
You seem to read my being smart into just about everything I post.
I notice you never try to defend what you said after I've dismantled it.
So you’re saying that the Trannies doing the gross things they do and white college kids chanting for intifada don’t say the things they say and do what they do in large part to provoke and shock the status quo? If so they’re taking behavioral cues from the Right.
The only thing your brain has dismantled is whatever smidge of common sense it once had.
That’s a ridiculous description of conservatives. We’re not against all change dimwit, esp medical and technological, but we hold on to core principles such as having borders, a limited govt with enumerated powers, etc.
The only thing your side cares about is winning elections, which explains why the DOJ sued Virginia to allow non citizens to vote.
Just going by what his daughter said. If you have a problem, take it up with her. Tell her you’ll meet her at the mall. You’ve got a kilo with her name on it
I said he was a creep. It upset you and sent you on some weird path to try and convince me he's just being cute.
Uh, I specifically identified one way in which I'd consider myself somewhat of a conservative, so clearly I was not using the word in the ridiculous way you are pretending I'm using.
(Helpful tip: If you want to make yourself feel good by predicting that someone is going to bring up strawmen, keep using them.)
Here: this article corrects your lie about the DoJ's suit against Virginia
You said "unhealthy attraction toward kids." That leans far more toward the definition of pedophile than the definition of creep.
Actually, if you take it up with her, now that she's an adult, you'll find that she is more concerned with the theft of her diary than with whatever her dad did.
What I said is how anyone lets their children near that creep is beyond me. You then attempted to convince me that he is just being cute. I then explain that he has a creepy and unhealthy attraction to young children. Which is very evident with undeniable proof. I wholeheartedly believe that it is closer to pedophilic than cute. But you can't see it that way because you believe his behavior is normal. Trump is creepy in his own way, but if I have to choose who I would leave my child with between those two, it wouldn't be Trump without hesitation.
Are you serious with this nonsense? The Doj’s argument hinges on the fact that the removals from the voter rolls “ disproportionately affected minorities” as if noncitizens weren’t disproportionately minorities in the first place.
This is what I'm talking about with hacks like @Dattier. He just toes the company line. Non citizens shouldn't be allowed to vote. Period. Call it purge, remove... or whatever you wish, they have rightfully been denied the right to vote.
No, it hinges on whether the governor can do so via executive order in the 90-day "quiet period" before an election. Do you think something so consequential should be left to whoever happens to be the governor at the time? Or should it require actual legislation?
Do you have any actual principles, or is it just, "If a Republican does it, great; if a Democrat does it, bad"?
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Well, personally both are horrific. But if I had to choose, I’d rather have someone steal my diary than have to take showers with my pedo Dad. How do you know what she’s more concerned with anyway? Project much?
Again, yet another way you’re either trying to minimize or even normalize Joe’s creepy behavior.
If noncitizens are on the voter rolls, they should be removed. The governor should have that power. If Democratic governors in the future want to remove noncitizens and dead people from the rolls, I fully support that. There’s already legislation to prevent noncitizens from voting. As for how to remove them, it should be immediate. “ Immediate” is not the legislature’s forte
So the alternative is to allow noncitizens to continue to vote, which, when you strip away all of your mumbo jumbo, is exactly what you want.
Do you think something so consequential should be left in the hands of noncitizens and dead people ?
Ideally, the removals wouldn’t occur this close to an election. I’ll grant you that. But, it’s better than noncitizens voting. We already have too many citizens voting that shouldn’t be allowed to
You're projecting pedophilia onto her dad. She introduced him lovingly at the DNC. Let me guess... Stockholm Syndrome?
Do we have any confirmation of how old she actually was? Like, 8? 8 would be an age she would remember, but it isn't pubescent. 14? Pubescent and imo, highly inappropriate. I would think bathing with your kids of any gender would be a bit weird after... 5? 6? IDK.
What's with intervening into how other people parent? You don't want your kid reading a certain book so no one's kid should be able to get it from a school or public library? Years of consultation with parents and doctors, but your kneejerk reaction about gender-affirming care is more important? Attributing it to pedophilia instead of just weirdness if a parent showers with their own child past the arbitrary age you decide is appropriate? Yet somehow if the issue was spanking a kid, suddenly y'all are all about letting parents parent how they see fit.
You don't want your kid drinking alcohol at 14 so no one else's kids should be able to. You don't want your kid to be able to purchase cigarettes at 11, so no one else's kids should be able to. You don't want you 12 year old getting tattoos, so no one else's kid should be able to. There are things that society and government has agreed should be off limits to children. I don't think it was that long ago that books with explicit content, like sucking dick, would be in that category. But here we are. You freaks have to normalize this shit.
False equivalency. We're talking about intellectual content, not ingested substances.
You still haven't answered about the other titles I listed: The Kite Runner, Oedipus Rex, Romeo & Juliet, Othello, The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian, Judy Blum. I'll add a few more: 1984, Catcher in the Rye, Diary of Anne Frank, All Quiet on the Western Front, Hamlet, MacBeth, Twelfth Night, Night, Julie of the Wolves... All of those books have troubling content, many of which relate to sex.
You still haven't suggested any steps to any process for determining a book's appropriateness. As far as I can tell, an angry mob of keyboard warriors or an 11-year-old activist being videotaped reading to the school board should result in kneejerk decisions without knowing anything else about the book.
She is intimidated by the prospect of crossing the POTUS. Joe’s clueless but spiteful. Ask Eric Adams. She wouldn’t be the first daughter to suppress horrific experiences to ensure they’re not cut out of the Will. Joe has amassed an ill gotten fortune while in public office.
She wants her cut, so she’s willing to play nice.
Arbitrary age? As if showers with a pubescent girl aren’t universally condemned.
Ghost is right; you are one sick pup
And you’re comparing spanking a child to taking baths with a girl who has reached puberty. Wow. Spanking is almost universally practiced in lower income Black communities. They would be offended by the analogy.
You don’t know much about the groups you like to play Savior to
Rightly or wrongly, most parents are concerned more with explicit sex acts in lit than violence. Most kids, especially boys, are exposed to violence in movies and video games like Call of Duty at too young of an age no doubt. There’s always going to be a stronger reaction to sex acts than violence. So why you included Romeo and Juliet and The Diary of Anne Frank in your little diatribe is anyone’s guess.
Part of the difference between the books listed above and a book like Gender Queer is that Gender Queer is perceived as being attached to a political agenda that is currently trending.
The authors above are generally accepted as simply great writers by and large, independent of any political movement at least one that is relevant to people of this generation
People like @Dattier live by presentism in today's world. Until they get pushed on this woke bullshit, then he all the sudden goes to reciting books from the past. Many classic pieces too.
My birth certificate from 1973 gave 3 options: White, Indian, or Negro. Should we reprint all of those from back then because they may be offensive today to some?
My birth certificate from 1973 gave 3 options: White, Indian, or Negro. Should we reprint all of those from back then because they may be offensive today to some?
You've already proven to be ridiculous. You don't have to keep trying. Of course you would say it is false equivalency, that's a convenient way for you to avoid acknowledging the point being made. How about porn? Ignoring that it is available nowadays in ways it never was before because of the internet. It is illegal for children to rent, buy or obtain pornographic material. Do you think that is right?
I am not going to go down your list and answer each and every book, title or author in order to give you the way out of sticking to a discussion about a particular case. I have already said that explicit sexual content should not be available for school aged children. Whatever falls into that category.
You keep referring to this kid as an activist just because he and his father brought the disgusting book to the school board. Even if it is an accurate description, it's weird to try and insult an 11 year old for bringing attention to the sick shit that you support.
It's about time for Datt to tag out and for the ol gal to take his place. He's due for a much needed break.
That Ol' boy is tuckered out spinning in circles. I must admit, his dedication to stupidity and fighting for children to have access to porn is above comprehension. It does make sense now why he's a fan of Joe B.
There are already clear laws regulating porn with the goal of keeping it out of the hands of minors. That's not the discussion and I have no issue with those laws.
How about just one book? Oedipus Rex. The protagonist murders his father, marries his mother, and has 4 kids with her. Kids are a by-product of sex. And he was doing it with his own mom. The entire play is about discovering this. Should we ban it?
Just because you consider "activist" a negative thing doesn't mean I do. In fact, it's a pretty safe bet that a politically charged word you have a negative opinion of is one I have a positive opinion of. And I think it's a terrible idea for that 11-year-old to read that book, based on what I know of him and his father from a single YouTube video. I never supported that at all.
That's actually a great answer! Thank you!
I'll save pushback for other posts and let this one stand as is.
There's sex in R&J and sexual curiosity/exploration in Anne Frank. I included them because of that, and because each of them has been challenged with the threat of banning them.
The book in question in that video, btw, was NOT Gender Queer. A technicality, I suppose.
Personally, I think we have it backward when we get more up in arms about sex than about violence.
This has been out of the news cycle for quite some time. Y'all haven't been talking about it, either. It doesn't really have legs. Unless the adult Ashley Biden comes forward with actual allegations, it's not going anywhere.
I asked if it had been confirmed that she was pubescent. I could see it being really strange and inappropriate well before that, but that would be when a louder alarm bell would start going off. Has it been confirmed?
I did not compare spanking a child to showering with a girl who has reached puberty. I cited one as the only time you fans of the party of small government actually are hands-off in people's personal lives.
So back to the book in question... have any of you paused to wonder why a school librarian would choose to include a book like that in their collection? Because if all you can come up with is grooming or sheer evil, you're just stupid snowflakes. Anyone want to try to represent what an actual librarian might say? You don't have to endorse it. I just want to know if any of y'all are even willing to hear it.
