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How bout you stop referring to me as ol gal? Let’s start there and we can discuss your supposed inclusiveness after that.
Ok. I apologize for calling you that, and won’t anymore.

Now that that’s behind us, let’s discuss what I posted.
 
Yo, @GhostOf301 !

Parenting tip: Be careful how you talk about VP Harris in front of your daughter. Criticize policy, but steer clear of personal attacks and insults that could be interpreted as gender-related.
That’s my tedtalk.
 
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Yo, @GhostOf301 !

Parenting tip: Be careful how you talk about VP Harris in front of your daughter. Criticize policy, but steer clear of personal attacks and insults that could be interpreted as gender-related.
That’s my tedtalk.
Sorry. I will not consider parenting tips from people who support exposing children to perverts and who think children can just choose their gender. But thanks anyway.
 
And, my daughter is two years old. Why the hell would I even be talking about the worst vice president in the history of our country around her?
 
Dems get to play from the top and bottom of the deck on this one. You have an issue with Kamala, then you must be sexist or racist.
 
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What do you mean by “undercutting your own voters”?
Pretty simple. The dems, like all parties, have primaries where their voters make their voices heard. Over 14M voted for Biden. He got every single delegate. All political donations were to him. Now you’ll, counter with “well she’s part of the ticket,” true so she gets to keep the donations but she’s not entitled to the delegates. The bigger issue, now that’s out of the way, is that the left knew damn well that Joe was mentally shot. They ran him anyway. They’ve known for years that he was gone. He ran in 2020 saying he would be a one term president and then pass the torch. They ran him anyway. They hid his senility and dementia from the public. Anyone who dared question it was labeled a conspiracy theorist kook job. They trotted him out on that debate stage and the entire world was exposed to what we’ve all known for years. He’s donezo. It was actually really a sad moment for our country seeing the sitting president not be able to complete a sentence. From the opening question to his final pitch that night he was a blabbering non sentient fool. Tragic really. They knew he wouldn’t be able to win. The tide had officially turned. Immediately after that debate debacle the wheels were in motion to dump the old man. From Obama to Pelosi to Schumer to Warnock even the Clooneys, Bill Mahers and good ole morning Joe were telling him to drop out. He should have never run for re-election to begin with. But the voters were robbed of A an open primary and B seeing the truth about Biden’s health and mental state. They were robbed of a fair choice and alternative. The left and the power players that be will hand pick whoever it is they want, likely Harris, and you’ll shut up and take it. Doesn’t sound very democratic to me.
 
If anyone still defends the Democratic party after everything that has happened in the last month, you have some serious mental issues.
 
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Pretty simple. The dems, like all parties, have primaries where their voters make their voices heard. Over 14M voted for Biden. He got every single delegate. All political donations were to him. Now you’ll, counter with “well she’s part of the ticket,” true so she gets to keep the donations but she’s not entitled to the delegates. The bigger issue, now that’s out of the way, is that the left knew damn well that Joe was mentally shot. They ran him anyway. They’ve known for years that he was gone. He ran in 2020 saying he would be a one term president and then pass the torch. They ran him anyway. They hid his senility and dementia from the public. Anyone who dared question it was labeled a conspiracy theorist kook job. They trotted him out on that debate stage and the entire world was exposed to what we’ve all known for years. He’s donezo. It was actually really a sad moment for our country seeing the sitting president not be able to complete a sentence. From the opening question to his final pitch that night he was a blabbering non sentient fool. Tragic really. They knew he wouldn’t be able to win. The tide had officially turned. Immediately after that debate debacle the wheels were in motion to dump the old man. From Obama to Pelosi to Schumer to Warnock even the Clooneys, Bill Mahers and good ole morning Joe were telling him to drop out. He should have never run for re-election to begin with. But the voters were robbed of A an open primary and B seeing the truth about Biden’s health and mental state. They were robbed of a fair choice and alternative. The left and the power players that be will hand pick whoever it is they want, likely Harris, and you’ll shut up and take it. Doesn’t sound very democratic to me.
You have definitely made some good points and there is no doubt this is a cluster***. A couple of things though. The "left" did not "run" Biden, in the manner that you describe. My understanding was that there were party members behind the scenes trying to convince Biden not to run for a second term all along. I think that had Trump done what Carter and Bush I had done and simply gone quietly into the night, Biden would not have run. I think that he thought he was the best one to beat Trump and so stuck around. His decline was awful to watch but for much of his Presidency, he has been a full functioning leader of the party and this country. As for Harris as the candidate, had Biden acted earlier, we may not have had her as the presumptive heir as there would have been time for other names to emerge. At this point, though, we are where we are and hopefully she will have enough enthusiasm behind her candidacy to beat the other guy. I will also say that one of the things that I found so frustrating during all of this was that Trump's performance at the debates and his speech at the RNC were absolutely awful and suggest that he too no longer has the mental capacity (assuming he ever did) to govern. There have been stories out there about how he has been kept away from anything where he has to be unscripted because he is no longer capable of answering unexpected questions. Finally, since we are talking about honoring the people's votes, the right has been relentless in making it difficult for people of color to vote in any federal election: from floating the nonsense that there is voter fraud, to kicking people off the rolls to shutting down voting locations in areas inhabited primarily by people of color.
 
Oh boy. Here we go with the right making it difficult for "people of color" to vote. These people lie and repeat the lie over and over until they actually forget that they are lying.
 
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As a general rule, liberals are probably more educated than conservatives. But don't confuse education with intelligence, because liberals are extremely low on intelligence. They're actually dumb as shit. President Biden is all the proof anyone should need to know in terms of how corrupt our media is, and how braindead their followers are. They spent the last 4 years pumping him up, and insulting anyone that had the audacity to question his competence. They went as far as saying he was sharp THE DAY OF the debate. If you believe that you shouldn't be allowed to vote or drive.

He's been an awful politician, and never been a good man, but it's beyond criminal what his own party has done to him. But libs like @SDevada will divert from reality to spewing left wing nut job talking points. Racism, denying voting rights, gay rights...... all horseshit. That's all they have. They sure can't stand on issues.
 
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to the point....A recent meta-analysis found that undergraduates’ IQs have steadily fallen from roughly 119 in 1939 to a mean of 102 in 2022, just slightly above the population average of 100
 
Sorry. I will not consider parenting tips from people who support exposing children to perverts and who think children can just choose their gender. But thanks anyway.
I don't support exposing children to perverts nor do I think children can just choose their gender.

The advice stands. If you talk about women in a way that focuses on their gender, your daughter will internalize it. For that matter, so would a son.
 
Oh boy. Here we go with the right making it difficult for "people of color" to vote. These people lie and repeat the lie over and over until they actually forget that they are lying.
You're projecting. SDevada backed up the claim with specific examples. You bury your head in the sand.
 
to the point....A recent meta-analysis found that undergraduates’ IQs have steadily fallen from roughly 119 in 1939 to a mean of 102 in 2022, just slightly above the population average of 100
That's a sign that college is more accessible, 80-some years later.
 
Pretty simple. The dems, like all parties, have primaries where their voters make their voices heard. Over 14M voted for Biden. He got every single delegate. All political donations were to him. Now you’ll, counter with “well she’s part of the ticket,” true so she gets to keep the donations but she’s not entitled to the delegates. The bigger issue, now that’s out of the way, is that the left knew damn well that Joe was mentally shot. They ran him anyway. They’ve known for years that he was gone. He ran in 2020 saying he would be a one term president and then pass the torch. They ran him anyway. They hid his senility and dementia from the public. Anyone who dared question it was labeled a conspiracy theorist kook job. They trotted him out on that debate stage and the entire world was exposed to what we’ve all known for years. He’s donezo. It was actually really a sad moment for our country seeing the sitting president not be able to complete a sentence. From the opening question to his final pitch that night he was a blabbering non sentient fool. Tragic really. They knew he wouldn’t be able to win. The tide had officially turned. Immediately after that debate debacle the wheels were in motion to dump the old man. From Obama to Pelosi to Schumer to Warnock even the Clooneys, Bill Mahers and good ole morning Joe were telling him to drop out. He should have never run for re-election to begin with. But the voters were robbed of A an open primary and B seeing the truth about Biden’s health and mental state. They were robbed of a fair choice and alternative. The left and the power players that be will hand pick whoever it is they want, likely Harris, and you’ll shut up and take it. Doesn’t sound very democratic to me.
I have a hard time believing you actually care about Democrats voices being silenced. Sounds like manufactured outrage.
 
If we're totally honest @Dattier, we are at such a critical time in this country, all democrats voices need to be silenced. Democrats are bringing nothing positive to the table.

You guys are poison for our country.
 
You're projecting. SDevada backed up the claim with specific examples. You bury your head in the sand.
They were not examples. They were unsubstantiated claims that lacked specific examples. Projecting is exactly what progressive liberals do when it comes to their dishonest stance on race related issues. They look at black people as poor little victims of white supremacy. They think so low of the black community that they actually think that they have to speak for them. When in reality, it is what they stand for that keeps black people in general from just being a part of normal society instead of being on this make believe island of inferiority.
 
I don't support exposing children to perverts nor do I think children can just choose their gender.

The advice stands. If you talk about women in a way that focuses on their gender, your daughter will internalize it. For that matter, so would a son.
What the hell are you even talking about here?
 
Oh, boy! Let's type "I'm not projecting! YOU'RE projecting!" back-and-forth at each other for hours.
 
They were not examples. They were unsubstantiated claims that lacked specific examples. Projecting is exactly what progressive liberals do when it comes to their dishonest stance on race related issues. They look at black people as poor little victims of white supremacy. They think so low of the black community that they actually think that they have to speak for them. When in reality, it is what they stand for that keeps black people in general from just being a part of normal society instead of being on this make believe island of inferiority.
You are so far off base when it comes to what I think about people of color it would be laughable if it was not so insulting. You want to make me out to be some patronizing fop so you can dismiss everything I say. You could not be more wrong or wrong about unsubstantiated claims. I know from friends who live inOhio, what the governor there has done. The Dems certainly have their faults but the Republican party, as it stands, is full of anti-democratic people who hope that by deflecting, we won't notice.
 
You are so far off base when it comes to what I think about people of color it would be laughable if it was not so insulting. You want to make me out to be some patronizing fop so you can dismiss everything I say. You could not be more wrong or wrong about unsubstantiated claims. I know from friends who live inOhio, what the governor there has done. The Dems certainly have their faults but the Republican party, as it stands, is full of anti-democratic people who hope that by deflecting, we won't notice.
I was talking about progressive liberals in general. You are just a pea in the pod of lunacy. But you have started to play the race baiting game. Must be an election year.

Give me true examples that include context. You're only providing vague and slanted examples. The examples you have given are absolutely unsubstantiated. You said the right has relentlessly tried to make it difficult for people of color to vote. Your examples:

"from floating the nonsense that there is voter fraud,"

How does this make it difficult for people of color to vote? Unsubstantiated and silly claim.


"to kicking people off the rolls"

No context, no real example. Just a statement. Unsubstantiated claim


"to shutting down voting locations in areas inhabited primarily by people of color."

No context, no specifics of what voting locations. No real example. Just a statement. Unsubstantiated claim.
 
Suddenly conservatives care about wrongly imprisoned people of color. :rolleyes:
What? One of trumps big things since 2016 was some of this stuff.. why would we want anyone wrongly imprisoned such a strange statement and shows you don’t actually know
 
I was talking about progressive liberals in general.
Except for Black progressive liberals, because you seem to define progressive liberals as white people who think they need to speak for Black people.
Everything you say is based on slanted & inflammatory rhetoric, canned rightwing talking points, and strawmen. It's intellectually dishonest and cowardly.
 
Party of DeMoCrAcY threw democracy out. Love the hypocrisy.. now get ready for a “honeymoon” poll period then a big tank after the DNc installs her next month. She’s toxic and less likeable then Joe to the voting block
 
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What? One of trumps big things since 2016 was some of this stuff.. why would we want anyone wrongly imprisoned such a strange statement and shows you don’t actually know
President Trump made very positive steps regarding prison reform. It inadvertently benefitted many Black people. Like with drugs, though, conservatives don't care until it's affecting their primarily white communities. The crack epidemic brought about character assassination, bootstrap talk, and heavy-handed law & order, much of it due to a bipartisan crime bill in 1994 led by Democrats. It wasn't until the opioid epidemic that conservatives developed any kind of empathy and started seeing addicts as victims. It's also like how Republicans oppose all things LGBTQ+ until their own son or daughter comes out and suddenly they're an ally.
 
Except for Black progressive liberals, because you seem to define progressive liberals as white people who think they need to speak for Black people.
Everything you say is based on slanted & inflammatory rhetoric, canned rightwing talking points, and strawmen. It's intellectually dishonest and cowardly.
President Trump made very positive steps regarding prison reform. It inadvertently benefitted many Black people. Like with drugs, though, conservatives don't care until it's affecting their primarily white communities. The crack epidemic brought about character assassination, bootstrap talk, and heavy-handed law & order, much of it due to a bipartisan crime bill in 1994 led by Democrats. It wasn't until the opioid epidemic that conservatives developed any kind of empathy and started seeing addicts as victims. It's also like how Republicans oppose all things LGBTQ+ until their own son or daughter comes out and suddenly they're an ally.
Unhinged
 
I have a hard time believing you actually care about Democrats voices being silenced. Sounds like manufactured outrage.
So you asked me why I said they undercut their own voters. You didn’t like the coherent, logical, and factual response, so you move the goal posts, and question my sincerity. You went on quite the posting spree after that I see. “Suddenly we care about democracy. Suddenly we care about black people, suddenly we care about the drug problem.” You can’t refute anything that was posted so you disingenuously try to portray the other side as insincere and vindictive.

But here’s the thing. Even if you believe the other side was all of those things, the fact remains true, your side has been bitching about election denial, orange Hitler is threat to democracy, while not only denying elections yourselves - see 2016, Stacy Abrams in GA for starters, your own party leaders (who I named) tossed out the will of the voter along with the senile old man who may or may not even be aware that he’s no longer the nominee. So call the other side all the names you want, but it’s clear as day, the democrats 10000% undercut the will of the voters, their own voters, and that is the antithesis of democracy.
 
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