Again, all we are talking about is changing names. You are seriously that worked up about it? There are more important things to worry about, like a president who goes to Mount Rushmore and announces that children are being taught to hate America. That kind of ridiculous rhetoric should scare everyone, including white conservatives.
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Dude, that's another thing we have in common. We are both long-suffering Skins' fans. Can I add Cowboy haters to the growing list?
Oh Mac... when you write, it's SO tough to read... you are *all* over the place... like, from sentence to sentence. Does your brain work like that too?
No idea what my education matters. And I've been SO lucky... a family of immigrants with a CRAZY work ethic and good IQ and a willingness to sacrifice short term to provide for the long term. Maybe your family doesn't have the same combo? No idea where I said I faced injustice... I'm a relatively wealthy, educated, relatively handsome white male... I've got shit pretty good, in terms of justice
But I also have this wacky ability to understand that other people have different experiences.No, I don't watch CNN... what do I care what some random woman said about Mt. Rushmore? I know what *I* think of it... its a really cool memorial and an incredible feat of engineering. That's about it, and about all I care about about Mt. Rushmore.
Too many books. That's awesome. TOO MANY BOOKS. You DO know that isn't a thing, right?
Yes, being nice is important! Do you not realize that you often do the exact opposite of that, the moment someone disagrees with you?
No, home is not always the best place for education. What, I can teach my kid to do surgery, or advanced biology, or economics, or electrical engineering? No, obviously not. The home is important, and so is education from other people.
End of the day Mac, here it is:
I, for one, am just glad to be on the side of Duke University and Shane Battier and Debbie Jones and Coach K and Grant Hill and Bobby Hurley and Jeff Capel and Nolan Smith and Jon Scheyer and Quinn Cook and Wendell Moore on this whole thing, and NOT on their side.
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Hah! No, I'll be honest, there aren't many teams I hate... UNC is the only one, and that's really mostly because of the cheating scandal
Sorry!
Dude, that speech was batshit crazy. Like, I've been teaching for decades, and if you think my kids don't come out loving this country more, appreciating all that we have done (while acknowledging our warts... *gasp* oh no, understanding that things are complex!) you are braindead.
Trump is dead in the water and just throwing out nonsense to appeal to his empty headed, hateful base. He has the worst poll numbers in history, and barring some serious election rigging/interference, he is done for.
Thank god.
Dude, just remember, education doesn’t mean intelligence. K and Duke supporting BLM? What is he going to say? In this day and time, you either say ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, or PUBLICLY SUPPORT the cause.
Anything less than a 100% backing, is the end of his career.
Sorry, but it’s an agenda. Almost everything going on now is just that. I feel strongly about it.
On Trump? You all hate him, you’ve been told to hate him. Most of it, MEDIA DRIVEN. Create as much controversy as possible, and in doing so, keep a 77 year old hidden in his basement. A good plan to win, is demonize the other while a man with dementia is the opponent? If that isn’t corruption, there never has been any.
Anything less than a 100% backing, is the end of his career.
Sorry, but it’s an agenda. Almost everything going on now is just that. I feel strongly about it.
On Trump? You all hate him, you’ve been told to hate him. Most of it, MEDIA DRIVEN. Create as much controversy as possible, and in doing so, keep a 77 year old hidden in his basement. A good plan to win, is demonize the other while a man with dementia is the opponent? If that isn’t corruption, there never has been any.
Man, you REALLY don't think highly of Coach K. Are you *sure* you are a Duke fan?
I see a lifelong conservative, a veteran who loves our country, who is famous for telling it like it is, and who has also spent a lifetime working with young African American men and their families, saying it very plainly from what he has learned and heard and experienced. Because who in their right minds would DISAGREE that black lives matter? Maybe a KKK member. That's it.
But I just have a WAY higher regard for Coach K than you, I guess.
But sure, media tells us to hate Trump... I mean, we can't actually see what he does and listen to what he actually says... and never mind that I knew who he was decades before you had any idea who he was... but sure, someone hiding in a basement (I love that you just use all the current conservative talking points SO reliably!) something something something.
Very rarely do I come come off as anything other than even-keeled in these threads. You on the other hand fly off the handle, ranting, raving and insulting others as soon as they post something you disagree with. Yet, I'm angry? OK.
You know nothing about me, Mac. In reality, I know nothing about you but here are some things I've picked up from your posts.
- You don't like higher education.
- You don't like Black people, unless they're quiet and don't disrupt your view of America.
- You get very angry when anyone questions your idea of what America is or tries to explain the differences in what some experience versus what you experience.
In truth, I question how the hell you're a college basketball fan with your apparent views on college and Blacks. Based on your screen name, I think it's possible you became a Duke fan because watching Christan Laettner, Danny Ferry, Bobby Hurley and others dominate gave you a sense of white pride when you were a kid.
Now that I've gotten that out of the way, why do you feel I'm angry and what have I blamed on white people?
Is it basketball season yet? For Christ sakes this isn’t a political board .
Views are views , the world is the way it is right now, people of every, race, creed and religion are gonna have different view points.
This is hilarious how far this topic has gone and exactly why I quit posting. We have social media, the news and all other outlets of scholars trying to determine what’s right and wrong in America.
I simply just want to know when the first jump ball is gonna be, the first foul called, who’s are best defensive player is, best offensive, best starting line up and for sakes can I get a ,” Go Duke!”
Go to a CNN chat room with the rest of this !
Views are views , the world is the way it is right now, people of every, race, creed and religion are gonna have different view points.
This is hilarious how far this topic has gone and exactly why I quit posting. We have social media, the news and all other outlets of scholars trying to determine what’s right and wrong in America.
I simply just want to know when the first jump ball is gonna be, the first foul called, who’s are best defensive player is, best offensive, best starting line up and for sakes can I get a ,” Go Duke!”
Go to a CNN chat room with the rest of this !
I agree with you Shey, but things are so bad now, sports, I’m afraid, aren’t going to be what they were. I’ve been a Duke fan for a long time. K stepped into a political ring. One I wish he hadn’t. What level headed person doesn’t believe black lives matter? But it isn’t about that. It’s became an agenda. K, imo, said that to help with recruiting, and to look like he cares more than the rest of us.
Personally, I’m getting real close to being done with college and pro sports. A Black Anthem? BLM stamped on the floor at nba arenas? Changing the names of sports teams.
Where do we stop? Other than the Indian names, what about others, like the Vikings, Raiders, Patriots? They could be ruled as offensive. Or our Duke BlueDevils.
Sports no longer are sports.
I really regret I began this thread. Should have given it more thought. I was thinking it would be fun trying to come of with some legit nicknames. I'm sorry it has ended up this way. I assure all a lot more thought will go into my new threads. Will try to cover all ways it can go south on me . I lost this thread many a post ago. Y'all have at it. OFC
How about the Pigskins? I'm being serious here. Then Washington can keep the whole hog thing. Footballs are actually made from cow skin, but was once thought to be made from pigskin.
No sky . It was a good thread I enjoyed you coming up with the ,” Washington Mutts!” Because I’m one too .
The pigskins, isn’t bad either I’ve always referred to the football as a pig skin as well.
The Washington United’s.
If it even is that much “40%” of natives are offended by their what 1% of the population in the US we should change the name of an NFL team... lol
Yo I can’t even ask where the white bread is at the grocery store
lmaoSo if 60 percent which is more likely t
No what I am worked about is that a very small out of touch fringe groups think they have the right to dictate what the overwhelming majority of people in this can think or say.If you say or think anything that the mob does agree you are subject to having your life ruined
No what I am worked about is that a very small out of touch fringe groups think they have the right to dictate what the overwhelming majority of people in this can think or say.If you say or think anything that the mob does agree you are subject to having your life ruined[/QUOTE]
Well, actually it us the majority of Americans that you are disagreeing with. But hey, let's not let reality interfere with your desire to be angry at the world.
Well, actually it us the majority of Americans that you are disagreeing with. But hey, let's not let reality interfere with your desire to be angry at the world.
The "Black Anthem," to which you referred was written 120 years ago and was originally labeled "the Nego National Hymn," over 100 years ago. Due to times and verbiage changing, "Negro National Hymn," eventually became "Black National Anthem." For contextual purposes, hymns are used by historically Black Greek organizations, too.
The NFL choosing to play "Lift Every Voice and Sing," before week 1 games is a cool gesture that is an effort to show solidarity with the people who make them a ton of money, make amends for the it handled the Anthem protests and that will hopefully educate some folks about someone else's history. That's all. It's not a threat to your childhood nostalgia or your way of life.
The words Black Lives Matter on the court for 2 months is a nice statement of solidarity with the people who go out on the court at least 82 times a year and make billions for a lot of people who, by and large, don't look like them. Again, it's not about you.
You seem really let down Coach K would speak out on behalf of the Black Lives Matter movement, even questioning saying he's trying to make it seem like Blacks than you do. It's pretty reasonable to believe he does. Aside from K seeming like a decent individual (your message board persona doesn't give that impression) he's probably been around a lot more Black folks than you and sees Blacks as people rather than simply tools for one's entertainment the way you apparently do.
You mentioned your disappointment that K stepped into the political arena. That usually just means you're disappointed he has a different opinion, but in this situation he actually clarified he doesn't view this as a political issue but humanitarian one. He's right.
What you seem to view as a political sporting event is simply real life to Black Americans. You don't have to raise a Black son, so seeing Tamir Rice rolled up on and shot on sight doesn't resonate the same way with you.
You don't have a nephew who reminds you of Elijah McClain, so seeing him killed by police doesn't affect you the same way.
You've never been a Black guy at a traffic stop, so seeing Philando Castille murdered while still in his seat belt is not going to send the same shiver down your spine.
I don't need the media to do anything other than allow for the murder videos to be shown then report that no charges were filed or that the murderers were found not guilty. I don't need media analysis to figure out my own opinion on matters like the above.
All of those murders, and many more, were deemed justified, by the way.
These are not "political" issues. These are "we can do better as Americans" issues and I want us to get there.
As for your sports concerns, come on. Those slopes aren't even slippery, they're straight up lubricated.
Raiders and Vikings? Yeah, I'd say they're safe.
Blue Devils probably won't ever go anywhere, but there is at least a portion of folks who vote with you that have probably always been a little uncomfortable with "Devils," being used as mascots. If the radical Christian right are snowflake enough to protest "Preacher," "Punk Rock Jesus," and "Second Coming," they're probably at least a little offended by Duke, DePaul and the New Jersey Devils.
Finally, the only way Patriot ever becomes offensive is if the current president continues to question the patriotism of anyone who questions or opposes him.
Of course, he managed to split Christmas and protective masks down party lines so who knows, right?
Well, actually it us the majority of Americans that you are disagreeing with. But hey, let's not let reality interfere with your desire to be angry at the world.[/QUOTE]
Please show me any reputable poll that shows the majority of Americans are in favor of left wing goals of defunding the police,ending nuclear families or burning down society if they don’t get exactly what they want.Talk about being angry at the world.Have not seen any conservatives want people fired for disagreeing with their political views.
Are you saying 60 percent of those who support the changing of the Redskins name are "woke liberals," or 60 percent are Native American? Or are you telling me it would take a poll showing 60 percent of Native Americans support the name change for it to warrant consideration. You didn't really express a complete thought so I need clarification.
By the way, you still haven't told me where you saw this poll that attributed the push to "woke liberals."
People don't have their lives ruined for "disagreeing with the liberal mob."
Mel Gibson seems to be doing OK. Hannity, Tucker and Laura Ingraham seem to be paid pretty well. Hell, Candace Owens has literally constructed her career around telling white people racism is dead.
If you're referring to people like the white lady up in Central Park, well she brought that on herself. She had a VP role with a financial company and decided she was going to play the race card and try to endanger a Black man who had the audacity to ask her to obey the law. Win some, lose some. She lost.
Elijah McClain was stopped while walking home from the store for "looking sketchy." He wound up dead.
Tamir Rice was a 12 year-old by himself at park with a nerf gun. He wound up dead. In this case, the officer pulled up, got out of the car and immediately opened fire.
Philando Castille was a passenger during a traffic stop who told the officer he had a C&C permit and was shot while trying to produce it. He wound up dead.
Try again, asshole.
@Mac9192, maybe I did come off a little angry in this post.
Please show me any reputable poll that shows the majority of Americans are in favor of left wing goals of defunding the police,ending nuclear families or burning down society if they don’t get exactly what they want.Talk about being angry at the world.Have not seen any conservatives want people fired for disagreeing with their political views.[/QUOTE]
If that is really what you think the non-conservatives are about, you need to broaden your news sources. And there are plenty of conservatives who want people to lose their livelihoods for their views as well as lifestyles. That is why it is hard to get any employment protection legislation Passed. It is also why conservatives support the actions of restaurants and bakeries to refuse to serve gay people.
Two Washington Posts surveys an d a Annenburg survey support the Native Americans do not care.Two instances that readily comes to mind is the UCLA professor who the mob wanted himfired when he refused to cancel exams due to Mr Floyd getting murdered.Another example of mob intimidation was when Drew Brees family receding death threats when he said he would not kneel for national anthem
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I'll look up the polls.
So the UCLA professor you're saying wanted, meaning he's still employed, right? And how big was this "mob?"
Drew Brees, I'll take your word for even though, through all the coverage his comments got, I never read his family received death threats. I know he got a lot of condemnation and criticism from Blacks he's has known for years and worked with, but not sure about death threats.
I have no problem whatsoever with the phrase black lives but major problems with the BLM organization.They are by their own admission trained Marxists whose goal is to overthrow our country.When they express concern about black lives being killed in cities like Chicago and Baltimore then they may gain some credibility.Also have never seen say anything about the real genocide being practiced by organization liked Planned Parenthood who currently aborts more black babies in NYC than are being born.
I found the 9/10 Annenberg survey from 2003, which was cited by Snyder 10 years later, so I assume that's the one you referenced.
I also found conducted by Cal-Berkley from 2020 that showed 49 percent of Native Americans representing all 50 stated and 148 tribes find the team name offensive. The survey also showed that 67 percent of those who identified as heavily engaged in their culture and 60 percent of young people find the team name offensive.
In none of the surveys did I find an identifier for woke liberals.
No, I wouldn’t be offended as I’d just know how ignorant that person was. You act like it’s never happened before, anyways. Lol. Only sensitive people, who see “race”, get “hurt” by it. Now you’ll respond saying “I avoided your question” because it doesn’t fit your narrative.
No, I don’t have a hard time, but I doubt it for a few reasons, including a quick search that shows the same user name elsewhere, with posts on that board leading to believe they’re a specific “race”, as you like to say. Now for you, I’d like to see where I specifically said you were “white”.
Now how does it sound if I say “some black folks” are angry race-baiters, using race to buy votes/power (BLM the .org is a beautiful example) and continue the suppressive excuse? It’s true, but isn’t that offensive to your sensitive eyes?
Yo I can’t even ask where the white bread is at the grocery store
I love me some “Jewish” Rye. It’s the shizzle!!
Just like those surveys that said Hillary had a 98% chance of winning in a landslide. Gotta love selective stats lmao.
Got it. I just looked it up and read about it.
The UC-Berkley is more recent, but prior to the protests of this year, polled more people and seems more thorough.
Your buddy is the one introduced polls and surveys. I even acknowledged that the president says they're fake.
You can say anything you want. You like your message board persona and how you present yourself. Do your thing.
You speculated about me being white the last time we interacted and you brought up your wife being Korean and how she knew more about stereotypes than me. I asked if she thought her brother or a male family member experienced the same type of racial stereotyping as a Black male. You never responded.
I'm glad you feel racial things only offend a soft person. I know being a white guy you're an expert on this.
A little history. Planned Parenthood was started by Margaret Sanger and Prescott Bush, the father and grandfather or our two Bush presidents. the idea was to dispense birth control to poor people so they would stop having kids that they couldn't support and diluting the gene pool with people to intellectually deficient and lazy to make a living (this is what they thought, not me). it has now morphed into an organization that provides services such as Pap smears and mammograms to women who cannot afford them. it also provides neonatal care to people who cannot afford that to ensure that their babies are healthy. While Planned Parenthood does provide abortion services, those services make up a very small portion of their business. And thanks to the 1973 Hyde Amendment, no federal dollars go to support those abortions. As far as your comment about the amount of black babies being aborted, that is completely incorrect and is used as a trope to attack Planned Parenthood. At one point, black women were less likely to terminate their pregnancies than white women. I can't find any data as to whether that is still the case but it well may be. Even assuming for one moment that this ridiculous statement was correct, so long as those women made the choice to terminate their pregnancies then we are not talking genocide, we are talking personal choice. And again, let me stress that you broaden your info base so that you get an accurate view of what we moderate Democrats (who still make up the majority of the Democratic Party) think.
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