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Official Gameday thread- duke at VT

Scheyer is going to have to throw some crap. I’m sorry .
 
Honestly I think I’m calling it a season…this team sucks and Scheyer doesn’t impress me at all….it’s not even fun to watch Duke play.
 
I had hope we could get better but we aren’t…we haven’t developed one single thing that is better than it was in November….not one single thing.
 
Does an 11 or 12 lose team make the tournament? Maybe because we have some quality wins, but Jon does look a bit in over his head.
 
This will be the last basketball game I watch this year, unfortunately. I just can’t
Duke don’t win half the games they have without Young .
i think it would be better off that way.
 
No alphas. Weak guard play. Missed 3 FTs in the final 2 minutes. Proctor barely drawing iron on that last three. Throw away the last possession of the game. Not a good recipe. Agree we just aren’t very good. Let’s lace em up Saturday and see what happens.
 
I’ll never give up on Duke . Seriously what did any of you think was going to happen .

K gone, one returning player who ever played meaningful minutes for Duke returning . These recruits were coming off a non observant Covid year . Y’all really thought final four ? Sweet 16 ? I mean the pressure put on these kids aren’t put on by them . It’s fans . Y’all wonder why all the OAD . You think if I’m a parent of a Duke recruit I want my son to stay where he’s called a Bum? Hell no I’m telling him to leave go get your money . It’s not their fault Duke built a global brand that just about mirrors a minor league NBA team !
 
I’ll never give up on Duke . Seriously what did any of you think was going to happen .

K gone, one returning player who ever played meaningful minutes for Duke returning . These recruits were coming off a non observant Covid year . Y’all really thought final four ? Sweet 16 ? I mean the pressure put on these kids aren’t put on by them . It’s fans . Y’all wonder why all the OAD . You think if I’m a parent of a Duke recruit I want my son to stay where he’s called a Bum? Hell no I’m telling him to leave go get your money . It’s not their fault Duke built a global brand that just about mirrors a minor league NBA team !
This team isn’t making the tournament…

With the number one rated high school class, best facilities, best connections, number one brand in all of college basketball…

A reasonable expectation is to make the tournament.

Saturday is must win…and if they lose they will not make it.
 
But at least we have almost an entire week for Scheyer to prepare 😬 I’m sure we will be ready 😂😂
 
We had a chance and needed one stop. We left Ryan in instead of Lively on defense and he got beat off the dribble…the entire defense broke down from that and they scored.

It’s coaching malpractice not to have had our best defensive lineup in to get a stop….oh and we had a timeout to use if we got it to substitute in for the last shot.
 
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The ESPN studio team after the last game mentioned intensity, and what it takes to win in the ACC....thats a major missing element from this team. Maybe its youth, maybe its attitude, maybe its the demeanor that the coaches bring..whatever it is, its missing..and these types of games show it. Same mistakes, same reactions, same result...this team is middle of the pack at best this year...the pieces just dont add up to a complete team
 
Scheyer needs to scour the gameday threads for all these coaching pearls of wisdom.
Maybe he would make the tournament then? Or maybe he needs something better than the number 1 of everything? Facilities, Brand, Support, Players??
 
This team isn’t making the tournament…

With the number one rated high school class, best facilities, best connections, number one brand in all of college basketball…

A reasonable expectation is to make the tournament.

Saturday is must win…and if they lose they will not make it.
A reasonable expectation with returning players and experience on the floor.

Who’s saying that . Fans ?
It was the number one class during a non observant year . These kids aren’t men .

What’s connections and brand have to do with a way a player plays on the floor?
Did coming to Duke make Grandison any better ? Did it get Schutt a three star recruit on the floor ( one a lot of you keep calling for to play ?) . Has it made Lively progress any quicker ? No. Do the facilities help stop injuries occurring or reoccurring? No !

The only thing the brotherhood brand has done is continue to get OAD recruits to commit . That’s it . It’s the luck of the draw has no one learned it does not work? Luck struck twice ! Once with UK and once with Duke . That’s it . It hasn’t produced more championships or more answers then questions.

I stick by my pick at the success thread. Making the tourney for Scheyer his first year will be good . We put the pressure on ourselves if what we expect and most of you had high expectations before seeing a player play at the college level. That’s not on them. If it’s on anyone it’s on scouts and analyst who BELIEVE what they should do at the college level .
 
Wait till UNC steamrolls us twice….it’s gonna happen.
 
A reasonable expectation with returning players and experience on the floor.

Who’s saying that . Fans ?
It was the number one class during a non observant year . These kids aren’t men .

What’s connections and brand have to do with a way a player plays on the floor?
Did coming to Duke make Grandison any better ? Did it get Schutt a three star recruit on the floor ( one a lot of you keep calling for to play ?) . Has it made Lively progress any quicker ? No. Do the facilities help stop injuries occurring or reoccurring? No !

The only thing the brotherhood brand has done is continue to get OAD recruits to commit . That’s it . It’s the luck of the draw has no one learned it does not work? Luck struck twice ! Once with UK and once with Duke . That’s it . It hasn’t produced more championships or more answers then questions.

I stick by my pick at the success thread. Making the tourney for Scheyer his first year will be good . We put the pressure on ourselves if what we expect and most of you had high expectations before seeing a player play at the college level. That’s not on them. If it’s on anyone it’s on scouts and analyst who BELIEVE what they should do at the college level .
So a reasonable expectation isn’t making the tournament?

Is this even Duke anymore??
 
And stop with injuries…there isn’t another program in the entire country that has as many injuries as a Duke year after year.

We continually have players hurt….bring in new players only to have them hurt….bring in new players and have them hurt…

When is the last time we didn’t talk about all the Duke injuries?

Maybe something in the program needs looked at as to why our guys are continually hurt Year after year after year.

We literally talk about it every single year.
 
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We need a leader for these young guys. From what I'm seeing it's Flip but it should be Roach. With 13 seconds to go he should have demanded the ball. Need experience at end of games but Roach has not been good.
 
No I said making the tournament his first year! Posters are the ones saying we won’t .
He should easily make the tournament IMO….anything less is a disaster. This should be the absolute lowest of standards at Duke.
 
Some of you are sad. Don't watch if it bothers you that much. Losing Whitehead stings, and bad. But I won't quit on this team. They fought tonight and had their chances. Onto the next.
Yea I’m not quitting on them as I’ll root/watch, but they’re not making the tourney. It’s okay to be realistic here without saying they all suck, etc.
 
I’m a Steelers fan and it’s like watching all the Tomlin defenders….Dude took a Super Bowl team to a superbowl and can live on it forever.

He has only won three playoff games in twelve years since they all retired and hasn’t won a playoff game in seven years now.

But he’s never had a losing season and finishes 9-8 better than anyone! Whoop D Fricken Do…

The standard of the organization has totally regressed from playoffs to non losing seasons. I’d trade Tomlin for a box of popcorn….
 
We need a leader for these young guys. From what I'm seeing it's Flip but it should be Roach. With 13 seconds to go he should have demanded the ball. Need experience at end of games but Roach has not been good.

Usually its your PG, but we havent had an alpha PG in a while. We lost 37-16 in PG scoring to Vtech...and in all our losses we have been heavily outscored in that position.
 
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And stop with injuries…there isn’t another program in the entire country that has as many injuries as a Duke year after year.

We continually have players hurt….bring in new players only to have them hurt….bring in new players and have them hurt…

When is the last time we didn’t talk about all the Duke injuries?

Maybe something in the program needs looked at as to why our guys are continually hurt Year after year after year.

We literally talk about it every single year.
But Duke has the number one facilities . So why with the number one in everything are the injuries continue to pile up ?
 
He should easily make the tournament IMO….anything less is a disaster. This should be the absolute lowest of standards at Duke.
Set by who? You ? Me ? Once again if your going to look at these kids as professional with nothing to learn then don’t complain about OAD and how college basketball is done . It’s fans making it out to look like pro sports. The expectations, the what you should do when you come to Duke .
 
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