Hope Flip is ok. BAN Court storming! We’ll see what Wake does outside of Lawrence Joel
Wake is really good at home. I wish Stewart had seen more playing time Carr was bad matchup for MitchellWake was not even in the tourney on Lunardi's final 68 going into this game. By any measure, that is not a VERY good team. If they were in the SEC, they would be lucky to be 10th in the standings. If Duke is FF or even elite 8 material, they beat that team by 10+ in a tight game early but then pull away.
No telling how many times I've read, "We'll be fine," the past 20 years or more only to see us crash and burn in the first or 2nd round.
Duke has some talent for sure, but they are a flawed team. Aside from Flip there is no consistent inside game - and he doesn't play inside enough! - neither Mitchell nor Young have legit offensive talent. Mitchell disappears all the time. He played 28 minutes and had 4 rebounds! For a PF. And the vet guards did not show poise in a tight game.
Further, Duke only plays 7 players. That won't cut it, either. The exact same problem that has plagued Duke 95% of their seasons over the last 20+ years.
Duke really needed to land veteran players in the portal of the caliber of Harrison Ingram and Cormac Ryan if they wanted to compete for a title this year. As great a recruiter of high school players as Scheyer has been, he's been just as bad in the portal.
If we are healthy, this will be the best 3 point shooting team that we’ve had going into the tournament in a while. The games that we’ve lost to in the past got behind the 3 pt line against us.The only 3 potential sweet 16 teams Duke lost to were Arizona in early November, @Unc, and @ Wake. The tournament is about matchups, the ACC always delivers in the ncaa tournament. I saw a stat the other night that the ACC has won the most ncaa tournament games in the last couple of seasons even though they didn’t have as many bids as the other conferences. I for one wouldn’t be surprised if Clemson, Michigan State, or Wake make the Sweet 16. Factor in the games against Arizona and Unc (Duke gets another shot against them in a couple weeks).
Duke is: 4-3 against the likes of Michigan State, Baylor, Clemson, and Wake. Michigan State and Baylor can definitely get to the sweet 16. Clemson and Wake with the right matchups in the first 2 rounds can get there too.
You said “they got their wish”, I assume you meant that critics didn’t want him playing anymore. Other than suspension, if he’s not playing anymore, chances are he’s hurt so it’s understandable people took it that wayOnce again, never said anyone wished he got hurt. Point to where that was said.
The kid has got beat up all year on here and the court, so now we will see this team without him.
Please point to where I said anyone wanted him hurt...I'll wait
As the announcers pointed out, good things happen when Flip touches the ball in the post. He’s good at finding the open man, and he may even grab a rebound or two Id have liked to have seen him develop more of a post game, but I’d better stop before someone accuses me of being glad he’s hurtFlip had a good game; but he was 1-6 from 3. Why is he taking 6 three pointers? It's happened many times before. I'd rather McCain or Roach take those. It seems like something that can be corrected. Him taking 2 is fine. They discussed this on Timo's podcast.
yeah I worded it wrong, which I've said a few times. Kid has been getting crushed all year and seeing him out of the lineup is a harsh reality. It just gets old with the criticism of the kid.You said “they got their wish”, I assume you meant that critics didn’t want him playing anymore. Other than suspension, if he’s not playing anymore, chances are he’s hurt so it’s understandable people took it that way
I said I'd be good with 3 of 4 wins on this stretch so I am. Let's start another streak.
Fair enoughyeah I worded it wrong, which I've said a few times. Kid has been getting crushed all year and seeing him out of the lineup is a harsh reality. It just gets old with the criticism of the kid.
Kenpom over Lunardi 100 times out of 100. If you aren't familiar with Kenpom, you should be. If your definition of very good is just the top 15, then in your head you're probably right.Wake was not even in the tourney on Lunardi's final 68 going into this game. By any measure, that is not a VERY good team.
I actually agree with some of the criticism you have about our team (particularly our depth). But this line here is a terrible take. I won't get into the statistics of how Duke has done over the last 20 years in comparison to the rest of the country, but as you might expect, we've been "VERY good." I have really high expectations too, and I despise losing, but I think you're getting too caught up in the emotion of today's loss.No telling how many times I've read, "We'll be fine," the past 20 years or more only to see us crash and burn in the first or 2nd round.
This!Still in the end it was Dukes four turnovers that cost them .
The recipe was there for a loss.
Sallis’s shooting in the first half ( especially how open he was) was just unreal . He could not miss.
In the second half Wake came alive . They attacked Mitchell just about every play down and could not do anything with Wake’s other big and then the three’s began falling .
Still in the end it was Dukes four turnovers that cost them . They were still very much in it until those possessions . Duke lack of depth is what hurts this team in the front and back court .
Agree with your post, except for the lack of depth comment in the back court. Our lack of depth in the front court is our Achilles heel. I was surprised at how Roach and Proctor killed us during our last three possessions.The recipe was there for a loss.
Sallis’s shooting in the first half ( especially how open he was) was just unreal . He could not miss.
In the second half Wake came alive . They attacked Mitchell just about every play down and could not do anything with Wake’s other big and then the three’s began falling .
Still in the end it was Dukes four turnovers that cost them . They were still very much in it until those possessions . Duke lack of depth is what hurts this team in the front and back court .
Devil, it might be that Jon didn’t want to throw any negative comments publicly about the defense his team played. He praised Wake, then spoke about the court storming, and rightfully so.Scheyer boasts about Duke almost winning despite Wake shooting 70% in the second half. My reponse to that is "where was our defense which was supposed to be the backbone of this team?" Scheyer did not say a word about Duke's defense with good reason. A good defensive team just does not allow a lesser, or even equal, or any, team shoot 70% in the closing half. Scheyer should have offered reasons for the obvious defensive letdown rather than brushing over it in his comments.
OFC
He has publicly addressed defensive shortcomings in the past. OFCDevil, it might be that Jon didn’t want to throw any negative comments publicly about the defense his team played. He praised Wake, then spoke about the court storming, and rightfully so.
I would like to think he will address the team (in private) that Wake shot 70% in the 2nd half. It is hard to win if the other team shoots that well, and I agree, some of that has to be due to the lack of defense.
Kenpom over Lunardi 100 times out of 100. If you aren't familiar with Kenpom, you should be. If your definition of very good is just the top 15, then in your head you're probably right.
I actually agree with some of the criticism you have about our team (particularly our depth). But this line here is a terrible take. I won't get into the statistics of how Duke has done over the last 20 years in comparison to the rest of the country, but as you might expect, we've been "VERY good." I have really high expectations too, and I despise losing, but I think you're getting too caught up in the emotion of today's loss.
Extremely likeable coachDidn't want to start a new thread but big props to Forbes on sticking up for the ACC. "Joey brackets" can eff off.
Started at the bottom good guy. We need more coaches sticking up for the conferenceExtremely likeable coach