timo and pisgah, I have a feeling this Hofmann poster is a troll. He was speaking nonsense about Maluach. His post also seems very trollish.
Official game day thread- Duke vs Clemson
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He probably is, but we need more than 3 points and 5 rebounds out of our lottery pick big man against good teams. We were destroyed down low tonight. Maybe just an off night; but we need to work on our boxing out and rebounding. We shot 50% from 3 which kept us in the game.
Tonight was the only time I can recall Duke getting beaten on the boards this season. All credit to Clemson.
A healthy Gillis would have made a big difference in tonight’s game and would have given Flagg/Maluach/Brown more rest. Flagg would not have had to play 38 minutes and Maluach would not have fouled out with Gillis in the lineup tonight.
A healthy Gillis would have made a big difference in tonight’s game and would have given Flagg/Maluach/Brown more rest. Flagg would not have had to play 38 minutes and Maluach would not have fouled out with Gillis in the lineup tonight.
Maybe but things are not always going to be perfect. It's not like Cooper was out, although he may still be sick. Not a big deal I just wish the ACC was better. A loss can be good if it shows areas to work on, we won't learn that from blowing out a bad Syracuse or Cal team.
Let's just hope whatever is going around with the squad passes and we'll be healthy when it counts.
I feel pretty good about this loss. Clemson needed every bit of help and luck possible to win. We weren’t able to match their physicality .. but that’s the way the cookie crumbles on the road. And they’re a good team. They will be in the tournament. They killed us on the boards. Some of that was luck, some effort. What stuck out a little to me is Maluach has got to be a little better, and he will be. Obviously our defense wasn’t the same. This was a good time to get sick, hosed, lose, and reboot.😂
I would have taken a tech from one of our bigs on lahkin because he was getting what ever he wanted around the rim .
I agree Chris. We need more out of the front court from Mal, Brown and big Pat .
I had Clemson as a team that could beat us but Duke will learn from this .
I had Clemson as a team that could beat us but Duke will learn from this .
Team just can’t close vs quality vet opponents, beating up mediocre ACC teams won’t make them better. Illinois is the only tough game left, lose that and they don’t deserve a 1 seed. It’s a shame our starting guards had to play so much because foster is completely unplayable.
I loved the post-game comments from Jon and the team. I have no doubt this team will rebound from this loss.
In the second half, Mal seemed like the only defender who could slow Lahkin down even a little bit. Not a moral victory, but I saw effort that will lead to being tougher later.
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Only watched the highlights (and kinda glad for that), but the officiating was horrendous from what I saw. Clemson consistently throwing chests and shoulder's into Duke ball handlers beyond the 3 point line with no call.......embarrassing. Coop getting, basically, punched in the face/throat on a clear push off with no call......embarrassing. The flagrant 1 on Kon.......embarrassing. Mal's 5th foul for being much taller than Clemson's player......embarrassing.
It didn't seem quite Tennessee 2 years ago bad, but it looked bad. Hats off to Clemson for making the shots, but that game was officiated with an agenda. 2-3 bad calls/non-calls a game go one teams way, ok, it happens. I saw 6-7 in a 10 minute highlight video alone. Embarrassing.
It didn't seem quite Tennessee 2 years ago bad, but it looked bad. Hats off to Clemson for making the shots, but that game was officiated with an agenda. 2-3 bad calls/non-calls a game go one teams way, ok, it happens. I saw 6-7 in a 10 minute highlight video alone. Embarrassing.
Duke did win at Arizona and beat Auburn. Also, Duke should have a tough ACC Semi Finals/Finals Opponent(s)
Zona and Auburn are literally our only ranked wins. ACC is a dumpster fire this year and that’s why we won’t be tested as much as a team playing in the sec.
Eh. The only sus thing to me was the slippery floor near the end, and if we’re honest, planning that would be some New England Patriot level chicanery right there.
The refs were consistent throughout the game. That’s my top wish from all officiating. When they let it be known in the first 5 minutes that they’re gonna swallow their whistles and let them play, we should accept it and proceed accordingly by the next TV timeout. That goes for the team on the court and fans watching.
You said Duke cannot close out against veteran teams and I was offering examples to show Duke can win against veteran teams. Also, Louisville will be in the NCAA Tournament. There are likely scenarios where Duke faces Clemson/Louisville in the ACC Tournament.
If I had one complaint about the OAD era it would be this. Obviously we are good but we seem to resort to hero ball when the game is close and on the line and it seems like that rarely works out for us. Cam's 3 point shot to beat FSU is an example of a perfectly drawn up play.
Chris, Duke had to go with Flagg and Proctor last night because they were the only ones giving Duke an offensive punch last night.
Flagg was Incredible those last 6 minutes of the game last night minus slipping on the court there at the end.
Flagg was Incredible those last 6 minutes of the game last night minus slipping on the court there at the end.
I just hope the Chiefs lose today but I think it will be a rout. If the Chiefs do win today I'd put him in the GOAT debate with Brady and Montana.
Experienced teams have been in close games WAY more than OAD squads....even ones with one or two experienced role players, because they were not the go to player for their previous teams in tight games. Having experienced PGs/front court players in clutch close games is invaluable...they know what to do and can adapt since they've been there before....our inexperienced young players are asked to learn on the job...and this season its mostly been a losing outcome so far unfortunately. They would benefit from more organization in those situations, whereas we tend to just give it to Flagg and hope for the best it seems.
Just watched "Field of 68" vid about our loss last night. They said our 3 losses are to some of the oldest team in college basketball. Kansas is the oldest, Kentucky 4th oldest and Clemson is the 9th oldest. Then I saw on Twitter that the average age of Auburn is 23. They have a 25yo, a 24yo and a bunch of 23 year olds. Not giving us any excuses but it just gives us so much less room for error because it's so hard to beat experience. Think we truly missed Gillis last night. Only really experienced player we had out there was Sion but he hasn't played in big games like Gillis.
Getting lost in all this is the fact that Flagg is the best decision maker on the team. He makes the play that the team needs whether it’s grabbing a rebound, hitting a shot, making the right pass, getting a crucial defensive stop.
You want the ball in your best play maker’s hands to make the right decision. It doesn’t help Kon had a quiet game last night.
Yes Kentucky, Kansas, and Clemson got the wins against Duke, but would any of you like their chances better than Duke’s at making a deep run in the NCAA Tournament? I wouldn’t
You want the ball in your best play maker’s hands to make the right decision. It doesn’t help Kon had a quiet game last night.
Yes Kentucky, Kansas, and Clemson got the wins against Duke, but would any of you like their chances better than Duke’s at making a deep run in the NCAA Tournament? I wouldn’t
Experience can negate talent to a degree. Even though we have the 3 transfers, which is great, we are still starting 3 freshman and have 4 in our rotation. I think it is important that we have Brown as Mal, good as he is, is very much a work in progress and does not seem to relish contact. Even Dickie V said he wasn't ready for the NBA. It's the length and upside scouts like.
No. We could hang a banner but we could also be sent home by the wrong match up. But you could say that about anyone. Beat Illinois and win the ACC and we should get a one seed.
Nope. I love the team they've put together.
Not at all but I’m shocked at the massive regression from Foster and i thought manman would be a way better rim protector. Thankfully the Covid year is about to be finally gone
I hear ya and realize it's poor form to complain about the officiating, especially after a loss. And, again, I only watched a 10 min. highlight video, but the calls/non-calls borderlined on absurd. How a player like Flagg gets punched in the face/throat area on an obvious pushoff, right in front of the official, not get called is ridiculous. Proctor and Flagg both got body checked and knocked backwards, beyond the 3 point line, while dribbling, yet no call? That's ridiculous. Mal's 5th.....absurd. Kon's flagrant.....absurd. Those are all calls a ref has to want to make or not make.
Trust you're right and the refs were just swallowing their whistles impartially, but that 10 minutes I watched looked like Clemson had the golden pass to play football and Duke was on a tight leash.
LetsGoDuke, I agree I am bummed about Foster. I visited with him and his parents last season after the Notre Dame Game in South Bend and they are really nice people.
Really want Foster to get it figured out!! Hoping the return of Gillis gets Man Man to get more confidence.
Really want Foster to get it figured out!! Hoping the return of Gillis gets Man Man to get more confidence.
At the end of the regular season Duke would have played a schedule that should have them ready for any team they will face in the NCAA Tournament:
Kentucky & Auburn (SEC high octane teams)
Kansas (Veteran laden and defensive sound team)
Arizona (Class of The Big 12 along with Houston)
Illinois (Strong Defensive Team from the Big10 and can really score)
Louisville (Gritty ACC Team, one of the hotter teams in the country)
Clemson (Experienced/Physical Team with sound coaching)
George Mason (Experienced Mid Major winning the competitive A10 Conference at the moment)
Hope Duke faces any combination of Wake Forest/Clemson/Louisville in ACC Tournament Play
Duke will be Prepared for the NCAA Tournament
Kentucky & Auburn (SEC high octane teams)
Kansas (Veteran laden and defensive sound team)
Arizona (Class of The Big 12 along with Houston)
Illinois (Strong Defensive Team from the Big10 and can really score)
Louisville (Gritty ACC Team, one of the hotter teams in the country)
Clemson (Experienced/Physical Team with sound coaching)
George Mason (Experienced Mid Major winning the competitive A10 Conference at the moment)
Hope Duke faces any combination of Wake Forest/Clemson/Louisville in ACC Tournament Play
Duke will be Prepared for the NCAA Tournament
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If we had the option to have a 3 loss team with only 1 in conference at this point in the season at start of the year everyone on this board would have happily taken it. The negativity is insane. This team is not only good it’s dang good. We saw some weakness last night at certain things and that’s fine to point out but the coaches have successfully addressed everything we’ve seen as “weakness” all year. Step off the ledge
Pretty positive we’ll see Clemson again
Agreed Pisgah have to put everything into perspective. Imo Auburn and Duke are on a tier at the top by themselves. I think Alabama and Florida can both get there and then it’s everyone else.
Yes, anything can happen in a 1 and done tournament, I am aware. The Blue Devils have been tested this season (look at the post above) and their schedule will have them ready
Yes, anything can happen in a 1 and done tournament, I am aware. The Blue Devils have been tested this season (look at the post above) and their schedule will have them ready
It's my fault. I gushed about the team in my top 10 Wednesday and jinxed us.
No, no. I accidentally wore something orange earlier in the day. It was my fault.
Not unhappy but wish we had a big with some offensive game other than dunks and put backs. Both Brown and Mal are good on the defensive end but man they have no offensive skill set.
I just watched MD beat Rutgers and man does coop's ex HS teammate Derik Queen have a game.
While I would almost always agree with your first sentence here, last nights officiating was TERRIBLE. I don’t care if I’m “being that guy” complaining about the officials like Gary, but that was criminally bad officiating. It was bullsh*t.
This did it . I should have known when I went to Roses department store with my wife and saw an entire shelf of Clemson stuff it was a sign . Especially when we’re in NC .
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