Damn. Rough sequence of events for us. It's a hard loss with Proctor going down, too.
In my honest opinion I think last year was fools gold.It’s like I said before. We SUCK. And it’s 100% on scheyer
He’s the man who built this team, who’s basically had first pick of who comes to Duke . He’s the man who’s been in charge of team development. And he’s the one who’s in charge of the product on the floor. Disgusting. Now I know why the boozers questioned if he could really coach. This team returned way too many players to suck this bad
Worse, way worse. Unc will absolutely throttle this teamIs Duke this year UNC, highly ranked to unranked and no tournament? They might be
Simple. Direct. Accurate.Amazing who shows up here on game day .
It’s been visible since southern Indiana the three guard line up wasn’t going to work unless guards are hitting outside shots . Flip had I think 15 points they doubled him the entire game like Arkansas and Southern Indiana did .
With out a big next to Flip and guards hitting threes this is what this team is .
I said last year UNC team that didn’t make the tournament and made history as being the first preseason #1 to not make the dance. Unfortunately Duke was preseason #2 and well on its way to repeat UNC fate. Yes UNC this season is way better than Duke and it’s not even close. They are top ACC Duke is middle of the pack.Worse, way worse. Unc will absolutely throttle this team
😂😂😂Yeah, armchair coaches love to show up in losses. They have all the answers.
Yeah, armchair coaches love to show up in losses. They have all the answers.
He convinced Flip and Lively to play together because Flip is more a pf then center and lively is a pure center and rim protector . They thrived off each other . That and it’s kinda hard to block out two seven footers around the basket .We don’t have the answers to fix the team but the problems are evident.
Like really what does this team do well? We all knew we were going to have major rim protector problem this year… scheyer should’ve known since lively committed ( everyone knew it was a one year deal). It was obvious we needed help and I don’t want to hear “ well we couldn’t get anyone because flip was coming back”
If that’s true how did scheyer convince flip and lively to play together ? We convinced foster to come with guys like roach and proctor returning.
You can’t tell me the team looks better from last year. What have guys like proctor/mitchell really improved from last year? Yes I know proctor didnt play much today, but he looks the same.
The problem starts with the coaches. The start to the season has been absolutely embarrassing and totally on them.
cool points, but my point was that he could have convinced a center to come play with flip just like he did with lively. He just didn't.He convinced Flip and Lively to play together because Flip is more a pf then center and lively is a pure center and rim protector . They thrived off each other . That and it’s kinda hard to block out two seven footers around the basket .
Mitchell was also better on defense and rebounding because he was mainly only switch from the 1-3 spots. His game strength was and is and always will be playing around the basket . Bully ball and it’s easier to do when you’re surrounded by guards and not actual bigs .
You got Foster to come even with Roach coming back and McCain and Proctor being here because he can play on or off the ball and you sold him as roach and McCain being combo guards while him and proctor are point guards .
No, it’s not on Mitchell. Dumb move, but it’s not what cost us the game. What cost us is having our top 3 offensive plays start with “undersized guard dribbling into traffic and then either (a) having his shot blocked, (b) throwing up an off balance shot that hasn’t a prayer, or (c) frantically looking to throw it out so they can start the set again”. I hate to jump on Jon, but this 3 guard line-up needs to stop. We are so overmatched inside it’s not funny. Make Young a “2 minutes here, 2 minutes there” guy to rest others, get Stewart and/or Reeves some PT to stop the other teams that are driving to the rim with impunity, and if you’re going to put Power in, run a play for him for crying out loud, instead of telling him to just run from one corner to the next. Final observation: Foster looked terrified at the line, and proved it by throwing up 3 bricks, not even close misses.Lose is on Mitchell, so stupid. This team is so overrated and is in serious trouble
We were already in the hole when he went down. Edited: We were only down 3-2. My bad.Losing Proctor rocked this team early on. I put the 12-2 start more on that than preparation.
Couldn’t agree more.It’s been visible since southern Indiana the three guard line up wasn’t going to work unless guards are hitting outside shots . Flip had I think 15 points they doubled him the entire game like Arkansas and Southern Indiana did .
With out a big next to Flip and guards hitting threes this is what this team is .
Down 3-2 is a hole?We were already in the hole when he went down.
He played every minute of that 12-2 run\Losing Proctor rocked this team early on. I put the 12-2 start more on that than preparation.
That's amazing since he was helped off the floor when we were down 3-2 not even 90 seconds into the game.He played every minute of that 12-2 run
Bleed...agreed here. Losing Proctor killed us and even though he hasn't been All American level like we all thought- he's still one of the better guards in the ACC. Huge loss.Losing Proctor rocked this team early on. I put the 12-2 start more on that than preparation.
Jimbo, I have to disagree on him being overwhelmed. I see a shitload of frustration, though. The pieces are there. I know that this team is better than what we have seen. I think Proctor going down today played a HUGE role in why we lost. We had our chances and didn't capitalize.Bleed...agreed here. Losing Proctor killed us and even though he hasn't been All American level like we all thought- he's still one of the better guards in the ACC. Huge loss.
In no way shape or form should any real Duke fan be calling for Jon's job, but he does look overwhelmed on the sidelines.
This. Good post. We have short memories in fandom. Things will get better. It's December. If losing now means growth and we look better come Feb/March, then I am good with it.Scheyer will be fine. Quick to jump on him after going undefeated at home in his rookie year and winning the ACC Tournament.
My bad had the game playing on my while driving. Wasn’t able to really sit down and focus until I think 19-11 is what I remember.That's amazing since he was helped off the floor when we were down 3-2 not even 90 seconds into the game.
How many centers were actually shot blockers and rebounders who got their points off Lobs that even considered Duke ?cool points, but my point was that he could have convinced a center to come play with flip just like he did with lively. He just didn't.
As far as the guards there are only 2-3 spots of available playing time still. Again it just isn't a valid excuse that we couldn't get a center just because flip was coming back