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I’m sure mama will find something or someone to criticize
I’ve always a thing for older women lolI'm beginning to think some of you guys have a thing for Mrs. Carter.
So when Wendell balls out when the NBA season begins, are we still gonna be talking about his mom? Or will he be deservedly recognized? Asking for a friend.
It’s really hard to get her out of your head when she insists on being there! Lol. She’s ruined me actually being able to root for, or even want to watch him as bad as that sounds. You say Wendell I instantly think of his mom. It’s like when you say Lonzo I think of his dad.....I mean I’m rooting for him, but I’m not ...if u understand that ...hopefully if everything stays quiet I’ll get over it.So when Wendell balls out when the NBA season begins, are we still gonna be talking about his mom? Or will he be deservedly recognized? Asking for a friend.
I can’t see K actually (promising) anything...
It’s really hard to get her out of your head when she insists on being there! Lol. She’s ruined me actually being able to root for, or even want to watch him as bad as that sounds. You say Wendell I instantly think of his mom. It’s like when you say Lonzo I think of his dad.....I mean I’m rooting for him, but I’m not ...if u understand that ...hopefully if everything stays quiet I’ll get over it.
I'm beginning to think some of you guys have a thing for Mrs. Carter.
Mrs. Scheyer and Luke Kennard’s sister for me.Sonia Curry and Jennifer McRoberts for me.
Mrs. Scheyer and Luke Kennard’s sister for me.
So when did you perform your statistically relevant survey on coaches making promises and on what they promise. Very refreshing to have someone with your omniscience and expertise on this board. Keep up the good work.All Coaches promise... What they promise is only what he, assistant coaches, parents and player know.
The "system" does not fund anything; the schools do. They fund their operations, in part, through athletic revenues. The fact that such revenues are a consistent source of funding means that they are not generated by individual players, but by the teams which have the fan support and interest. Contrary to your implication, the players are not being cheated or taken advantage of. They are offered through the schools amazing opportunities to enhance their skills, to become educated, to grow as players and persons, to develop lifetime friendships and contacts, and to demonstrate their value to future employers, whether they be professional teams or other businesses. These opportunities are not offered by other sources, and the players are damn lucky to receive them. They don't deserve to receive anything which other students do not receive, and certainly not a share of athletic revenues which have far more important purposes. Finally, WTF difference does it make that more black athletes receive these opportunities than athletes from other ethnic backgrounds?No, I can't say that I do understand your point.
I don't agree with her comparison of the NCAA to slavery, but I can definitely understand how someone could find fault with a system that funds dozens and dozens of athletic programs per school with the revenue generated almost exclusively by (a very high percentage of Black) athletes who play two sports.
As for the most recent comments that were attributed to her by someone from Sports Illustrated, well, I wasn't there so I don't know what she said and I don't know what was told to her and her son during his recruitment. I do know that Wendell says she was misquoted so there is always the option of giving a Duke guy the benefit of the doubt.
Regardless, nothing Mrs. Carter said or reportedly said appalled me enough to stop rooting for son or to wish failure upon him in the NBA.
So when did you perform your statistically relevant survey on coaches making promises and on what they promise. Very refreshing to have someone with your omniscience and expertise on this board. Keep up the good work.
The "system" does not fund anything; the schools do. They fund their operations, in part, through athletic revenues. The fact that such revenues are a consistent source of funding means that they are not generated by individual players, but by the teams which have the fan support and interest. Contrary to your implication, the players are not being cheated or taken advantage of. They are offered through the schools amazing opportunities to enhance their skills, to become educated, to grow as players and persons, to develop lifetime friendships and contacts, and to demonstrate their value to future employers, whether they be professional teams or other businesses. These opportunities are not offered by other sources, and the players are damn lucky to receive them. They don't deserve to receive anything which other students do not receive, and certainly not a share of athletic revenues which have far more important purposes. Finally, WTF difference does it make that more black athletes receive these opportunities than athletes from other ethnic backgrounds?
The NCAA can’t enforce any kid to do anything in regards to how long or short they stay in school.This is idealistic, and why the one and done is going to be gone!
The NCAA will enforce a player to stay at least two years going forward. It's something being aggressively discussed during Summer League play.
This. The NBA would have to install that sort of rule. Just like how the baseball rule on staying 3 years is an MLB rule, not an NCAA rule.The NCAA can’t enforce any kid to do anything in regards to how long or short they stay in school.
The NCAA can’t enforce any kid to do anything in regards to how long or short they stay in school.
So you meant the NBA not the NCAA i take it?The NFL has done it for years. You just need to remove the OAD, and if a player goes to college he will need to stay 2 years. If he does not go to college then he can go straight to the league.
Yeah, but the NFL Isn't the NBA lol. Basketball is a sport where an athlete's body can be "professionally prepared" by age 18. Basketball is also a sport where an athlete can play professionally for 20 years.The NFL has done it for years. You just need to remove the OAD, and if a player goes to college he will need to stay 2 years. If he does not go to college then he can go straight to the league.
It is amazing how many people get this confused. Like the NCAA is the cause of the 1 and done rule.The NCAA can’t enforce any kid to do anything in regards to how long or short they stay in school.
Yeah, but the NFL Isn't the NBA lol. Basketball is a sport where an athlete's body can be "professionally prepared" by age 18. Basketball is also a sport where an athlete can play professionally for 20 years.
No football player can play in the NFL before age 21, I don't care how "physically freakish" they are, they would get KILLED. Plus, given how short NFL careers are, coming into the league at age 21 makes sense, because most players are only gonna be there for a short amount of time anyway.
Force a basketball player to wait until age 21 to play pro, and he essentially just loses out on millions of dollars of earnings potential.
The "system" does not fund anything; the schools do. They fund their operations, in part, through athletic revenues. The fact that such revenues are a consistent source of funding means that they are not generated by individual players, but by the teams which have the fan support and interest. Contrary to your implication, the players are not being cheated or taken advantage of. They are offered through the schools amazing opportunities to enhance their skills, to become educated, to grow as players and persons, to develop lifetime friendships and contacts, and to demonstrate their value to future employers, whether they be professional teams or other businesses. These opportunities are not offered by other sources, and the players are damn lucky to receive them. They don't deserve to receive anything which other students do not receive, and certainly not a share of athletic revenues which have far more important purposes. Finally, WTF difference does it make that more black athletes receive these opportunities than athletes from other ethnic backgrounds?
Mrs. Scheyer and Luke Kennard’s sister for me.
The majority of these college athletes will never get to the league to get paid but it helps to have that scholarship. My niece who is Chinese was a top 10 student in a large high school got no assistance or scholarships. She just graduated at 21 working a second shift job her last year of college. I never heard her complain once about anything being unfair. These athletes have choices to make just like she did.That middle part of your post about all the opportunities given to basketball and football players are the same opportunities afforded to athletes on track, baseball or swimming and diving scholarships. The main difference is those athletes generate little or no money for the university.
You can make the argument that the basketball or football players can generate greater name recognition for themselves than other athletes but that is not necessarily an across-the-board thing. There are probably but a handful of UNC football players that didn't make the league who have names that can make them six figures selling insurance or advertising, but those players helped to float the entire athletic department aside from men's basketball. The same could almost certainly be said for football players at Kentucky, Kansas or other similar schools where football is not the focus.
Finally, the system to which I referred also includes the NCAA itself. From every standpoint I've heard people speak, it seems the revenue generated by the men's basketball tournament basically funds all other NCAA's tournaments.
As I said in my first statement, I don't feel college basketball is somehow comparable to slavery but I do understand how someone can look at it as an unfair arrangement.
It’s not an argument of who works the hardest. The argument is who is making the significant monetary impact to the university. And for many of the major colleges it’s the football team, followed by the men’s hoops team and that’s it.The majority of these college athletes will never get to the league to get paid but it helps to have that scholarship. My niece who is Chinese was a top 10 student in a large high school got no assistance or scholarships. She just graduated at 21 working a second shift job her last year of college. I never heard her complain once about anything being unfair. These athletes have choices to make just like she did.
The majority of these college athletes will never get to the league to get paid but it helps to have that scholarship. My niece who is Chinese was a top 10 student in a large high school got no assistance or scholarships. She just graduated at 21 working a second shift job her last year of college. I never heard her complain once about anything being unfair. These athletes have choices to make just like she did.
Do you think the football players on the high school team should be paid?Congratulations to your niece. I'm sorry to hear she didn't receive any direction on how to apply for one of the many diversity-based or academic-focused scholarships that a Chinese student who finished top 10 in her large high school's graduating class would be eligible.
It is a very nice story, but I'm not sure how it fits into a discussion about athletes who earn money for a school and subsequently help to fund athletes who earn little to no money for said school.
Do you think the football players on the high school team should be paid?
I agree about Lebron he was never going to college. He played a school here in Winston Salem at the coliseum and it was sold outI don't know if I think that. I'm not even 100 percent sure that college athletes should be compensated because I'm unsure of what that would do to the landscape of collegiate sports and how it would impact kids who would possibly have no other academic opportunity without college sports.
I can say this, however. The most ridiculous eligibility ruling I have ever seen in my life occured in 2003 when the Ohio High School Athletic Association ruled Lebron James ineligible for receiving money for, I believe, autographing some jerseys. Mind you, this came after St. Vincent-St. Mary's moved all their home games to the University of Akron and began televising many of their games on pay-per-view. If there was ever an amateur athlete who deserved compensation it was Lebron.