Favorite THR Quotes....

[KellenPatrick]

Well whoop de ****in doo. Congrats on another future OAD that passed on our LNWR in favor of our two crosstown rivals.

Of course you had the usual spin doctors trying to play it down on THR.

Joking aside, I don't think he's a lock to anyone yet, but the fact that he didn't come to our late night and he went to duke's doesn't bode well.

And the usual garbage from DSouthr was hilarious. Zion almost went to WESTERN KENTUCKY'S event over UNC'S. Wow. But DSouthr pretty much stated it as fact that Zion cancelled his visit to WKU because he thought it over and didn't want to upset Roy. LOL! You can't make this s**t up.

 

[KellenPatrick]

This is just too good. After his multi-day meltdown, @DSouthr now has the gall to say: "It feels like I am the only side of this that is trying to be respectful."

It's honestly uncanny how little self-awareness he has.

That is freaking hilarious. Like you pretty much said, talk about having no clue whatsoever.

 

[hart2chesson]

How bout we wait and see before we say things we might have to eat later eh

Justin couldnt "eat" those two free throws down the stretch against Nova.....They "ate" him up....

OFC

 

[dukedevilz]

^ Yep. And not converting on the layup at the end of the first half with maybe 10 seconds left was also huge. Nova got a little bit of a fast-break going and Booth made a jumper at the buzzer. 4-point swing. #clutch

 

[skysdad]

^ Yep. And not converting on the layup at the end of the first half with maybe 10 seconds left was also huge. Nova got a little bit of a fast-break going and Booth made a jumper at the buzzer. 4-point swing. #clutch

Yes this is all true but let us not forget all the horrible call that went against the heels in that game especially the last play when two obvious miss calls done the heels in. 1st the clock operator failed to start the clock giving Nova 1.6755231 seconds more to get off the shot. If the clock operator had started the clock at the the time then Nova would have never gotten the shot off. Also the moving screen on the defending tar heel player that kept him from getting in position to either alter or block the final shot. I'm just trying to look at this from a tar heels eye. Look at the replay as if you were a tar heel fan and what do you see. Plus the petition of over 25,000 signatures signed by tar heel fans went completely ignored. What kind of country do we live in. After getting all those votes he gathered from his trip and playing basketball with the tar heel team in 2008 he did nothing to reverse the outcome of the nation championship game against Nova. OFC

 

[Showenuff]

^ Yep. And not converting on the layup at the end of the first half with maybe 10 seconds left was also huge. Nova got a little bit of a fast-break going and Booth made a jumper at the buzzer. 4-point swing. #clutch

 

[hart2chesson]

Yes this is all true but let us not forget all the horrible call that went against the heels in that game especially the last play when two obvious miss calls done the heels in. 1st the clock operator failed to start the clock giving Nova 1.6755231 seconds more to get off the shot. If the clock operator had started the clock at the the time then Nova would have never gotten the shot off. Also the moving screen on the defending tar heel player that kept him from getting in position to either alter or block the final shot. I'm just trying to look at this from a tar heels eye. Look at the replay as if you were a tar heel fan and what do you see. Plus the petition of over 25,000 signatures signed by tar heel fans went completely ignored. What kind of country do we live in. After getting all those votes he gathered from his trip and playing basketball with the tar heel team in 2008 he did nothing to reverse the outcome of the nation championship game against Nova. OFC

Also lets not forget the 3 pt handicap Roy should have been granted for pulling such a rock on the final play. Instead of having someone guard the trailer (Jenkins), he made Brice Johson a rim protector- basically guarding air on a play Nova had to go the length of the floor to execute....OT should commence!!!
#RoyBlew

OFC

 

[imajericho]

Jackson and Tatum seem like very different players. I'd like to think Jackson is better whenever he is on compared to Tatum being on, but that Tatum is likely better at their normal output.

 

[peterjurkinsquirtsroywilliams]

Jackson and Tatum seem like very different players. I'd like to think Jackson is better whenever he is on compared to Tatum being on, but that Tatum is likely better at their normal output.

Both are different for sure, Tatum has a better overall game than Jackson, while Jackson has more experience. I think Tatum wins the matchup due to his ability to score in different ways.

 

[hart2chesson]

Jackson and Tatum seem like very different players. I'd like to think Jackson is better whenever he is on compared to Tatum being on, but that Tatum is likely better at their normal output.

Are you saying Jackson is more valuable to a team when he has a hot hand as opposed to Tatum when he's on fire???

OFC

 

[imajericho]

Are you saying Jackson is more valuable to a team when he has a hot hand as opposed to Tatum when he's on fire???

OFC

That is my view point. Tatum is more of a can get a bucket close to the basket kind of game in addition to at range. While Jackson is more of a needs to be hitting buckets from mid and long range kind of player.

I think Tatum provides more on an everyday basis but that Jackson can outpace him in production when he is simply on fire compared to Tatum.

 

[HeLooks2MuchLikeDave]

Jackson should be much better than Tatum. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

 

[chov1125]

Who is more valuable to their team is really the only argument that can be had between these two players? Who is the better player, it is not even close. Tatum is one of the top recruits in a very loaded class and should be a top 5 draft pick next year. Justin Jackson will be lucky to be drafted in the first round. If you are giving value to being a veteran and knowing a team's system better than a frosh I guess you can do that, but again that is more of a who is valuable to their own team conversation.

Ex: Matt Jones played lock down D against Grayson in the CTC game. He looks to be healthy and as such will play a major role this year. Amile is a 5th year grad student who will do all the nitty gritty to bring this team along. He will provide defense, rebounding and some scoring. Neither Matt Jones nor Amile Jefferson are even in the discussion regarding being better than a Jayson Tatum or Harry Giles or Frank Jackson. However one or both of them could be more valuable to this year's Duke team.

The who is better when they are on fire point, with all due respect, is a major reach at best and one of the more bizarre arguments I have ever seen made.

 

[dukedevilz]

That is my view point. Tatum is more of a can get a bucket close to the basket kind of game in addition to at range. While Jackson is more of a needs to be hitting buckets from mid and long range kind of player.

I think Tatum provides more on an everyday basis but that Jackson can outpace him in production when he is simply on fire compared to Tatum.

Outpace him the same way he's scorched the nets for 20+ points just 5 times in 78 career games? Gotcha.

 

[imajericho]

I have heard of many classes being loaded and not turning out to be that way when all is said and done.

That said, your opinion is obviously from your viewpoint Tatum is better, my viewpoint he is likely better but Jackson has a higher ceiling on his game.

How valuable a player is to a team or how many points they put up is kind of unimportant in my viewpoint.

If you have Lebron James he is your best player yes? You surround him with a bunch of bums and Lebron puts up 40+ points a game because you know who else is going to score them?

Is Lebron not as good if he is surrounded by Prime Jordan, Prime Kobe, Prime Chris Paul, and Prime Kareem?

I mean, Lebron's points will go down and you could argue he isn't as valuable as his team then.

Does it make him less of a player?

Justin Jackson did what he was supposed to on his teams. And, I think he has shown when he is on fire he could dominate a game, though UNC is not centered around that.

Tatum has done nothing in the NCAA yet so we shouldn't jump that gun, and the praise I day Tatum is likely better on an average day than a 1st round pick with 2 years of experience is lavish praise already.

We will see. I stand by my opinion for now.

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

^ has he ever dominated a college bball game to this point?

 

[imajericho]

^ has he ever dominated a college bball game to this point?

Has Tatum?

Jackson has never been asked to or has the gameplan ever designed to let him do so. Who knows what he would do if that was the game plan. I assume he would be able to put up a lot of points if the gameplan was centered around him.

 

[dukedevilz]

You could just use win-shares as a standard bench-mark. Brice Johnson was 5th in nation with 7.6 WS and Grayson Allen was 10th in nation with 7.2 WS. Not that complicated. Thomas Walkup led the nation with 8.7 win shares, btw.

 

[peterjurkinsquirtsroywilliams]

I have heard of many classes being loaded and not turning out to be that way when all is said and done.

That said, your opinion is obviously from your viewpoint Tatum is better, my viewpoint he is likely better but Jackson has a higher ceiling on his game.

How valuable a player is to a team or how many points they put up is kind of unimportant in my viewpoint.

If you have Lebron James he is your best player yes? You surround him with a bunch of bums and Lebron puts up 40+ points a game because you know who else is going to score them?

Is Lebron not as good if he is surrounded by Prime Jordan, Prime Kobe, Prime Chris Paul, and Prime Kareem?

I mean, Lebron's points will go down and you could argue he isn't as valuable as his team then.

Does it make him less of a player?

Justin Jackson did what he was supposed to on his teams. And, I think he has shown when he is on fire he could dominate a game, though UNC is not centered around that.

Tatum has done nothing in the NCAA yet so we shouldn't jump that gun, and the praise I day Tatum is likely better on an average day than a 1st round pick with 2 years of experience is lavish praise already.

We will see. I stand by my opinion for now.

I watched Tatum play at CTC and his ceiling is much better than Jackson's.

 

[imajericho]

I watched Tatum play at CTC and his ceiling is much better than Jackson's.

Maybe and we will find out. I remember a bunch of Kentucky members at RR lamenting how good Jackson was and how upset they were not getting him after his HS all star game and how his ceiling was unlimited.

You know, Tatum is probably going to be really good. I am on the record on Radar as saying Tatum is your best player.

But, until the season plays out we can't definitively judge yet.

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

Has Tatum?

Jackson has never been asked to or has the gameplan ever designed to let him do so. Who knows what he would do if that was the game plan. I assume he would be able to put up a lot of points if the gameplan was centered around him.

no tatum hasn't played yet.....i like jackson, seems like a great kid....they have 2 completely different games and skill sets....is this his year to be the focal point offense?

 

[imajericho]

no tatum hasn't played yet.....i like jackson, seems like a great kid....they have 2 completely different games and skill sets....is this his year to be the focal point offense?

I think Hicks is going to be focal with a ton of Berry. We will see soon. Few weeks away from Basketball Season woohoo!

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

i guess that just goes to show the different philosophies of our teams.....berry and jackson would be my focal points which would lead to them creating for hicks and meeks.... imo

 

[imajericho]

i guess that just goes to show the different philosophies of our teams.....berry and jackson would be my focal points which would lead to them creating for hicks and meeks.... imo

UNC tends to play inside out. Coaching philosophy for the most part.

 

[KellenPatrick]

"The who is better when they are on fire point, with all due respect, is a major reach at best and one of the more bizarre arguments I have ever seen made."

Amen to that. Major reach is exactly what I was thinking.

 

[imajericho]

"The who is better when they are on fire point, with all due respect, is a major reach at best and one of the more bizarre arguments I have ever seen made."

Amen to that. Major reach is exactly what I was thinking.

Eh, so is most arguments about a player who has never played in college either. Like I said, we will see soon enough though!

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

UNC tends to play inside out. Coaching philosophy for the most part.

yep....regardless of the pieces that seems to be it, the thing I like so much with K is that he utilizes his weapons and adjusts the offense based on such....and you are right, it is almost time.....who do you think stands in for pinson initially...britt? or williams/woods/rob?

 

[imajericho]

yep....regardless of the pieces that seems to be it, the thing I like so much with K is that he utilizes his weapons and adjusts the offense based on such....and you are right, it is almost time.....who do you think stands in for pinson initially...britt? or williams/woods/rob?

I think it is Britt due to Roy's loyalty to the upperclassmen. I wish it was Brandon Robinson though.

A lot feel Kenny Williams on Radar, but I have seen nothing from what he has done last year, in the scrimmage, or in the 3pt shoot out at LNWR.

 

[KellenPatrick]

Eh, so is most arguments about a player who has never played in college either. Like I said, we will see soon enough though!

I agree, I just thought it seemed like a reach when you were saying something about JJ being better but only when he is "on fire". Well, yeah, if he is on fire at some point then I guess he would maybe be better for a few minutes then. Ha, I dunno

 

[Laettner]

I think Justin Jackson makes a big improvement this year. Kept waiting for him to go off last year but never really happened. Hicks could break out as well.

 

[KellenPatrick]

I think it is Britt due to Roy's loyalty to the upperclassmen. I wish it was Brandon Robinson though.

A lot feel Kenny Williams on Radar, but I have seen nothing from what he has done last year, in the scrimmage, or in the 3pt shoot out at LNWR.

What I have seen of Williams has been pretty bad. The guys over there saying he is gonna have some breakout season this year are doing so out of nothing but blind faith/HOPE.

 

[imajericho]

Saying with his height and range I think if he is on fire he could out up a lot of points which are harder to stop by a defense.

That's where I am coming at from that.

 

[imajericho]

What I have seen of Williams has been pretty bad. The guys over there saying he is gonna have some breakout season this year are doing so out of nothing but blind faith/HOPE.

I mean, I understand their viewpoint. But, they use it illlogically. They say Williams shot good in HS from 3 yet downplay that Theo Pinson also did.

They said Williams is a good 3 point shooter and that it is low sample size... okay. But, then in a 3 point contest he does by far the worst of every participant.

They say he lights up 3s unstoppably in practice, he misses horribly in scrimmages, games, and 3 point contest.


I do not get it. Maybe he comes out and does good. Maybe. But as of now, he has shown nothing in a game situation to support that.

 

[Showenuff]

So, can we still talk about Tatum in this thread or do we have to "wait and see?"

 

[imajericho]

So, can we still talk about Tatum in this thread or do we have to "wait and see?"

Talk about what you want. However, there is a chance Tatum is a dud just like there is a chance he is a star. I think he will be a star.

 

[Showenuff]

You are possibly the most ignorant poster around if you think Tatum will be a dud. True story.

 

[imajericho]

Lol... I am going back to staring at the wall at this dealership waiting for my oil change to be done after that response. Overstayed my welcome here. Have a good day.

 

[Showenuff]

That lil swing post there is stupid. It's like me saying Berry could miss all his shots this season but I think he'll make some.

 

[Showenuff]

Yes, tend to your oil, your posts annoy the shit outta me.

 

[Showenuff]

I think Frank Jackson will definitely out score Berry on nights that Frank is on fire and Drew is cold. Amile will crush Hicks rebounding when Amile is really feeling it but Hicks fouls out early. Wow this really is fun.