My mother worked in the school cafeteria when I started middle school. She worked for 20 years. She loved it, but would sometimes come home with a burn on her arm where she had gotten in a hurry to get the food out. Those ladies are some hard workers and great people. A lot of the teachers I worked with acted like they were better than them. The over educated always seemed to lack common sense. Is your mom at Pisgah High School?
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He has already undermined right-wing trust in the courts. Why should you think the appeals process is any more trustworthy? Or that a President-elect who has sworn vengeance on his enemies will really be treated fairly? If it was any other wealthy reality TV star, you'd say they were buying their way out of it. Add to that that he is likely to have judges he appointed deciding his cases, and why would you trust a "Trump judge" to be fair and impartial?
My ridiculous post re: 2020 where I provided articles from diverse sources quoting Republican after Republican saying the election was legit, and which you countered by saying lockdown day-drinking was voter manipulation? Yeah, I'm the ridiculous one.
Overturned on appeal I should say
her Dad was a professor at Stanford. How gullible are you?
Perhaps it was legit due to the lax verification laws changed for that particular election ; maybe it wasn’t. We’ll never know Of course the leaders of a state are going to err on the side of “ We’re not corrupt. No not us”.
Yeah, I could go out now with my sick leave. There's a hitch in the system, though, where in order to get the career license you don't have to renew, you have to go the full 30 years w/o using sick leave toward the total, and I'll need that for either subbing or teaching part-time.
I didn't mean Driver's Ed isn't legit, just that coaches practically have a closed shop.
I started teaching in '96. The only thing that has really caused me to think the kids have changed is Covid. Other than that, what change there is has been gradual and the biggest changes have been in me. The Internet wasn't really much of a thing for my first few years. Cell phones weren't much of a thing until a few years after that. They are both curveballs that have affected schools, for sure. I imagine teachers in the '50s said the same thing about rock & roll. Shoot, there's a Socrates quote about it: "Children nowadays are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannise [sic] their teachers." And the kids we've taught over the course of our careers will say the same thing about their own kids' generations.
Yet you don't apply that same standard to Dear Leader when he claims he won in a landslide in 2020? He was claiming it before polls closed on election night. He has been lying to you to convince you elections are corrupt since 2016.
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Overturned now that he's the President-elect, and in courts with Trump judges.
Both of her parents immigrated to the US a few years before she was born in 1964, the same year President LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act and a year before he signed the Voting Rights Act. Real estate redlining continued into the 1970s (you should know: Dear Leader settled lawsuits for it). Her dad was an assistant and associate professor until he first went to Stanford in 1972 when Kamala was 8 and her parents were already divorced. You think a Black immigrant in the '60s was raking it in financially? You think most professors are raking it in now? How gullible are you? I stand by my statement that she came from "modest" means.
Yikes. And yes, WE. I actually did want to move on from Trump. But he handily won the republican vote in the primary. And I sure as hell wasn't going to vote for the left in protest of the republicans picking Trump.
And lol at what he will do. We already know. It's written in the project 2025 playbook. And one thing I know is that when someone draws up a playbook, they intend to use it.
They must have implemented the full 30 years for career renewal after I retired, which was 7 years ago. My teaching certificate says I’m licensed until I’m like 90 years old. I did the subbing gig a few times, but it’s just not the same as being their teacher from day one. As a substitute teacher, you can tell who the good teachers are by the lesson plan they leave for you. Good luck with those last 3 years until retirement, they will drag by (I mean fly by). Seriously, time will fly by once you retire.
Being a cafeteria manager must make you a great mom. Mine was a cafeteria manager at my high school and finished up in elementary. The kids at the high school loved her and called her momma when they came through the line. We found a box where she had placed all the school pictures she was given by them.
This seems crazy, but hey, these times are crazy. The other rumors are some of the names mentioned in high positions.
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Take from it what you will but it’s pretty easy to separate public educators into groups by who they associate with. I have a feeling you’ve never spoken to a custodian or cafeteria workerDividing people into nuts and not nuts based on whether they hung out with your mom. Gotcha. But I'm outta line for stating my expertise on public education and linguistics.
You know plenty about public education I don’t doubt it
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Comparing rock n roll which I assume wasn’t played inside the school building and cell phones which they carry with them at all times, look at in the bathrooms, at lunch, and whenever the teacher isn’t looking is a weak analogy. Not to mention a second period history student can text a fourth period student in the same class what ‘s on the test that day.
You’re being flippant about the damage caused by cell phones imho, but hey you’re the expert.
For the sake of giving credit where credit is due. The board owes gratitude to @Dattier and I say this without sarcasm. We used to have a pretty balanced group in these discussions, but many people have quit engaging. Which is probably a healthy decision. The ones that are left are conservative for the most part. Datt knew it was going to be obnoxious here after Trump kicked the cackling commie's ass. But he still comes here and battles like a warrior for his side. That deserves a good level of admiration whether we agree with him or not.
So, CHEERS! Datt. Here is to making America great whether you like it or not.
So, CHEERS! Datt. Here is to making America great whether you like it or not.
I miss him talking basketball.. for all our disagreements he was actually a great basketball poster
At Stanford the average salary for a professor is $ 237,000. Most people would consider that “raking it in”.
Back then, even adjusted for inflation, I’m sure the salaries were much lower but still solidly middle class.
Before I get accused of tokenizing this man. His race has absolutely nothing to do with the messages. Definitely worth the watch.
I agree. I don't see why you'd be so hostile toward others in education who devote their lives to kids. Is it because working in a cafeteria is seen as blue collar and therefore "honest"? Whereas teaching means you have influence that's somehow inherently sinister?
I added the bold. Let's see if you can figure out why it doesn't deserve any further comment.
Well golly gee. Why them letters so dark here tell? I know ain’t done it. How you color dem words like dat?
I am indeed one expert. I trust @dukesince91 is one, too. I don't think we're saying fundamentally different things; I think we have different perspectives. You, on the other hand, don't know jack, and are operating here in bad faith, distorting what I said and ignoring other things I said.
No flippancy on my part whatsoever. My point is that for all the ways kids have changed, they are developmentally the same. 15 is 15. Covid is the only thing I've experienced that changes that. Technology such as the Internet and cell phones are factors around that, but it does not change the fact that 15 is 15. But I started teaching at 23 and I'm now 52. I have changed a lot more than the kids have. Every career educator has. And adults have been claiming that kids are different since at least the time of Socrates, who died more than 2400 years ago. It's perspective.
You're just looking for a stupid argument where it's completely unnecessary. That's why you're a bad faith actor in this. You don't belong in a dialogue between two experts.
You're wrong and it's not even a good guess. Throw in office staff, bus drivers, IAs, and other classified staff, as well. I'm hardcore union with extreme Leftist leanings. I see dignity in all work and live that ideal daily. Geez, did you even read what my current plan for retirement is? Or were you too busy looking for some way to disparage me?
You're even lying in that concession at the end: easy to claim and pretend you're being diplomatic, but it matters more that you show it, and all you ever show is disrespect.
I hope I understood that incorrectly. I need to look into it.
I've subbed at schools on a different calendar from mine. It's a pretty sweet gig. Nothing to take home, nothing to plan yourself. It's just crowd control and keeping the peace for one period at a time. And yeah, it's pretty easy to figure out who is going to have good plans in place. The first telltale sign is that their absence is planned in advance. Another is if they're part of a special program or career pathway within the school because those students are usually more into what they're studying in those classes. And if you're able to focus primarily on one school, you figure it out just by observation.
I need to see whether subbing or a half-time position is more lucrative. I expect to work into my 70s, so the bottom line will matter.
Actually, kids are experiencing puberty earlier than before, esp. girls. Even in an area in which you claim to be an expert, your posts are riddled with inaccuracies
I don’t have Kamalie’s Marxist Dad’s pay stubs. So average is the best I could do. Range of salary: 90k to 470k. This condescending response is a perfect example of how you can never admit you’re losing an argument but double down on condescension and sly insults.
Look we all know you’re hurting now. It must really suck when America tells you that you’ve been wrong about pretty much everything. We get it.
Unfortunately, instead of some soul searching, you’ve predictably gone a different route.
Read the above post back to yourself. Then ask yourself: does this sound like an expert or does it sound more like the unhinged rantings of a delusional asshole?
But if you drive a bus you can’t be posting on a message board all day or day drinking anymore.
I mean you could, but I wouldn’t recommend it
Okay, but it's gradual. It's not noticeable from year-to-year, nor even over the course of 10 years.
I consider "modest" a wide enough range that I'll stick to that and treating your obsession over it with bored disdain.
I reread it. It makes perfect sense to me. It's not even close to ranting.
Day-drinking? Attn: @pisgah101 Stand by, please...
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Trump should have paid for them. The Diddy List, the View, Clooney. It’s hard to hide crazy when you’ve been in the spotlight as long as they have No impact whatsoever. Swift might be an exception. A lot of her fans are in or just exiting indoctrination camps so they’re pretty much just taking up space at this point.
Very gullible, easily manipulated. Could tell you absolutely nothing about Hamilton or Jefferson, but probably know Malcolm X’s birthday
You’ve been in public education for 30 years, not 10. So being the expert that you are, I’m surprised that you didn’t notice the earlier onset of puberty. Then again, as far as I know you’re not a nurse or a pediatrician so you’re really just a lay person in this area now aint cha?
As far as you thinking your post seemed reasonable, I figured as much. Crazy people don’t know they’re crazy
I mentioned the age of 15, just as an example. Could you tell me what exact difference you would be looking for at the age of 15?
You're just trolling at this point, and leaving out the most potentially embarrassing for yourself.
Do you like having decent discussions and debates or not?
Comments like “ I added the bold. Let’s see if you can figure out why” doesn’t lend itself to civil discourse.
What exact difference would I be looking for at the age of 15? I was hoping you could tell me since you’re the expert.
When you say “I’m an expert and you don’t know Jack” this doesn’t inspire a “decent” discussion.
You remind me of Biden and Harris calling for unity one minute, calling their opponents garbage and Nazis the next.
You are posting bad faith garbage and I will continue to call you on it.
Hey, now that @pisgah101 is around, care to expound upon your day-drinking comment?
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