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@eldritchorifice I answered your question, and asked you to name Ol Joe’s accomplishments. That was over an hour ago.

When you typed “Joe Biden’s accomplishments, I bet google is still spinning. I hope you didn’t ask Alexa. She would have laughed at you.
 
It's a message board. People say subjective things as if they were facts and then disappear when they are challenged with actual facts. Wait it out until the subject has changed and then jump back in. Not the end of the world.

I would like to get some quantifiable data that shows the benefits of socialism ove capitalism, though. I mean, he all but called people who run businesses or properties for profit, evil.
 
Starting with the acknowledgement that I am not sure if he corrected his words after the video stops. But this is the kind of shit that we're dealing with. They don't care about you. They don't care about making our country stronger, united or prosperous. This is the globalists in action.



As commander in chief, his primary role is to protect the United States and its citizens above all else. He is basically removing that responsibility by saying that America first is not our policy.
 
@Mac9192 I'm sorry I didn't respond to your answer promptly, I was busy starting my weekend doing things I enjoy with people I like. Anywho, let's break down these accomplishments by Trump.

Unemployment, yeah when Trump took office unemployment had been on steady downward trend since Obama's first years. When Obama took office it was around 10%, when he left it was under 5% and eventually hit under 4% while Trump was in office. But that low unemployment rate was not at all an accomplishment of Trump. You're just giving him all of the credit for the previous administration cleaning up the absolute shitshow that were the Bush years.

Giving Trump all the credit for that unemployment rate is akin to me assigning him all of the blame for the catastrophic unemployment rate in early 2020(it was almost 15%!) It makes zero sense.

Gas was so low during the Trump administration because he took over a humming economy. And btw gas prices were roughly the same in the last two years of the Obama administration, and Obama took over in one of largest recessions in our history.

Here's the link for gas price averages. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg&f=m

The border has been even more secure under Biden. For example, much less fentynal is making its way into our country under Biden than under Trump. I don't understand where this idea that democrats just let people flow into the country comes from. They don't, they're just much less abusive to the immigrants when they get there. I guess that constitutes a weak border.

Peace deal in the Middle East, between two countries that weren't at war and hadn't been? I'm not gonna sit here and pretend the peace deals were bad. They weren't, but they didn't actually bring any peace.

As far as no issue from North Korea and Russia, Trump spent the better part of 4 years of his presidency convincing the entire planet that he and he alone was in fact the biggest fan of both Putin and Un to ever exist. It was like a teenage girl with a boy band crush. It was embarrassing. He talked up these two anti American dictators as if they are actual genuinely decent leaders and people. And if you have even half a brain you know that that could not be further from the truth.
 
He said a lot of meaningless babble. The kid has been trained well. He’s angry, delusional, and not capable of using his own eyes.

Exactly the way they want him.
 
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GhostOf301 said:
He did not just say that the border is more secure under Biden.
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This clowns not even worth responding to if he’s not trying to be serious. Did he actually say that Trump inherited a humming economy when Obama tried to convince us for 8 years that 1 % or less Econ growth was the new normal?
I assume among those “things I enjoy” doing on a Fri night is hard drugs in his moms basement
 
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Mac9192 said:
He said a lot of meaningless babble. The kid has been trained well. He’s angry, delusional, and not capable of using his own eyes.

Exactly the way they want him.
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I went through some of it but all I got out of it is baaah baaah
 
GhostOf301 said:
He did not just say that the border is more secure under Biden.
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I did, because it is true.

www.bbc.com

How Joe Biden and Donald Trump's border policies compare

President Biden promised a more humane approach but his border policy has been sharply criticised too.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

www.whitehouse.gov

FACT SHEET: President Biden’s Budget Strengthens Border Security, Enhances Legal Pathways, and Provides Resources to Enforce Our Immigration Laws | The White House

President Biden has taken historic steps to secure our border and rebuild a safe, orderly, and humane immigration system that was gutted by the previous
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov

apnews.com

Plunge in border crossings could blunt GOP attack on Biden

A sharp drop in illegal border crossings since December may be blunting a Republican point of attack against President Joe Biden as the Democratic leader moves to reshape a broken asylum system that has dogged him and his predecessors.
apnews.com apnews.com

And for what it's worth I don't really agree with Bidens approach but this administration has objectively secured the border in ways no other president has.
 
Mac9192 said:
He said a lot of meaningless babble. The kid has been trained well. He’s angry, delusional, and not capable of using his own eyes.

Exactly the way they want him.
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So refute my points with facts @Mac9192. Don't just call it meaningless babble. That's not an argument. Show me the facts where I am wrong and I will happily admit it.
 
eldritchorifice said:
So refute my points with facts @Mac9192. Don't just call it meaningless babble. That's not an argument. Show me the facts where I am wrong and I will happily admit it.
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The AP article states a sharp decrease in December. A decrease from record highs in the first two years of Biden’s admin.
People thinking of coming now know we can’t absorb them. They see migrants sleeping in the streets in El Paso and NYC and figure they’ll stay where they are.
Nothing to do with Joe Biden
 
eldritchorifice said:
So refute my points with facts @Mac9192. Don't just call it meaningless babble. That's not an argument. Show me the facts where I am wrong and I will happily admit it.
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The second article is from the White House’s own website so are you trying to be funny bc I actually lol so thanks for that
 
eldritchorifice said:
@Mac9192 I'm sorry I didn't respond to your answer promptly, I was busy starting my weekend doing things I enjoy with people I like. Anywho, let's break down these accomplishments by Trump.

Unemployment, yeah when Trump took office unemployment had been on steady downward trend since Obama's first years. When Obama took office it was around 10%, when he left it was under 5% and eventually hit under 4% while Trump was in office. But that low unemployment rate was not at all an accomplishment of Trump. You're just giving him all of the credit for the previous administration cleaning up the absolute shitshow that were the Bush years.

Giving Trump all the credit for that unemployment rate is akin to me assigning him all of the blame for the catastrophic unemployment rate in early 2020(it was almost 15%!) It makes zero sense.

Gas was so low during the Trump administration because he took over a humming economy. And btw gas prices were roughly the same in the last two years of the Obama administration, and Obama took over in one of largest recessions in our history.

Here's the link for gas price averages. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg&f=m

The border has been even more secure under Biden. For example, much less fentynal is making its way into our country under Biden than under Trump. I don't understand where this idea that democrats just let people flow into the country comes from. They don't, they're just much less abusive to the immigrants when they get there. I guess that constitutes a weak border.

Peace deal in the Middle East, between two countries that weren't at war and hadn't been? I'm not gonna sit here and pretend the peace deals were bad. They weren't, but they didn't actually bring any peace.

As far as no issue from North Korea and Russia, Trump spent the better part of 4 years of his presidency convincing the entire planet that he and he alone was in fact the biggest fan of both Putin and Un to ever exist. It was like a teenage girl with a boy band crush. It was embarrassing. He talked up these two anti American dictators as if they are actual genuinely decent leaders and people. And if you have even half a brain you know that that could not be further from the truth.
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Trump took over a humming economy? 😳
 
eldritchorifice said:
So refute my points with facts @Mac9192. Don't just call it meaningless babble. That's not an argument. Show me the facts where I am wrong and I will happily admit it.
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Your points are subjective, that’s the issue. We already know you’re financially challenged, so for you to think the Obama economy was booming is hilarious.

Then you say our border is more secure under Sleepy? Lmfao, we continue to set record numbers of illegal border crossings every month since he took over 😂
 
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eldritchorifice said:
I did, because it is true.

www.bbc.com

How Joe Biden and Donald Trump's border policies compare

President Biden promised a more humane approach but his border policy has been sharply criticised too.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

www.whitehouse.gov

FACT SHEET: President Biden’s Budget Strengthens Border Security, Enhances Legal Pathways, and Provides Resources to Enforce Our Immigration Laws | The White House

President Biden has taken historic steps to secure our border and rebuild a safe, orderly, and humane immigration system that was gutted by the previous
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov

apnews.com

Plunge in border crossings could blunt GOP attack on Biden

A sharp drop in illegal border crossings since December may be blunting a Republican point of attack against President Joe Biden as the Democratic leader moves to reshape a broken asylum system that has dogged him and his predecessors.
apnews.com apnews.com

And for what it's worth I don't really agree with Bidens approach but this administration has objectively secured the border in ways no other president has.
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You're not a serious person.
 
eldritchorifice said:
I did, because it is true.

www.bbc.com

How Joe Biden and Donald Trump's border policies compare

President Biden promised a more humane approach but his border policy has been sharply criticised too.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

www.whitehouse.gov

FACT SHEET: President Biden’s Budget Strengthens Border Security, Enhances Legal Pathways, and Provides Resources to Enforce Our Immigration Laws | The White House

President Biden has taken historic steps to secure our border and rebuild a safe, orderly, and humane immigration system that was gutted by the previous
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov

apnews.com

Plunge in border crossings could blunt GOP attack on Biden

A sharp drop in illegal border crossings since December may be blunting a Republican point of attack against President Joe Biden as the Democratic leader moves to reshape a broken asylum system that has dogged him and his predecessors.
apnews.com apnews.com

And for what it's worth I don't really agree with Bidens approach but this administration has objectively secured the border in ways no other president has.
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Dayum, did you say that with a straight face?
 
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Fourteen44 said:
“The leading cause of death in children is firearms….”

Oh the idiocy:

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Libs are the most disingenuous creatures in this country. They want to cite the number of people killed by guns without including the context of the events. Like mass shootings for instance. We are programed to think of school shootings or other random public shootings that kill or injury 3 or more people when we hear mass shooting. So in 2021 there were 678 mass shooting events in which 303 didn't have any deaths. 88% of those were gang, or domestic related. 783 people died in mass shootings. That's a lot IMO. But of the 48,000+ that died as a result of gun violence, which includes suicide, that is a small percentage.

Then there is the involvement in children. This number has almost doubled over the past 5 years. Referring to 2021 again, there were 2,400 children killed in gun related violence. Over 90% of those deaths involved incidents where the "children" had guns. Over 90% of those incidents were gang related. That tells anyone with common sense that it is not solely a gun issue, but mostly it is a parental issue.

Something like 2/3 of gun murders involves suspects and victims who knew each other. 13 percent involves gang violence. Under 3 percent involves random attacks on the public.

If you were to remove "assault rifle" deaths, you would go from 48,000 +/- deaths to 46,600 +/- deaths.

So when you hear rhetoric, similar to that of the blabbering lib in the video above, it is purposefully lacking context. They're not simply misinformed. It is to promote fear and compliance.
 
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Fourteen44 said:
“The leading cause of death in children is firearms….”

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"Well if you remove this part of the statistic then its no longer true." Yeah no shit, if I remove Caleb Love's 3 and add Marks misses then Duke beats the Cheats in the FF. Problem is ya kinda can't. Just like you cant just remove part of an age group to suit your point.
 
eldritchorifice said:
"Well if you remove this part of the statistic then its no longer true." Yeah no shit, if I remove Caleb Love's 3 and add Marks misses then Duke beats the Cheats in the FF. Problem is ya kinda can't. Just like you cant just remove part of an age group to suit your point.
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You don't think context is important. That doesn't mean that it isn't. One day, you might own your own brain. But it's looking grim.
 
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GhostOf301 said:
Libs are the most disingenuous creatures in this country. They want to cite the number of people killed by guns without including the context of the events. Like mass shootings for instance. We are programed to think of school shootings or other random public shootings that kill or injury 3 or more people when we hear mass shooting. So in 2021 there were 678 mass shooting events in which 303 didn't have any deaths. 88% of those were gang, or domestic related. 783 people died in mass shootings. That's a lot IMO. But of the 48,000+ that died as a result of gun violence, which includes suicide, that is a small percentage.

Then there is the involvement in children. This number has almost doubled over the past 5 years. Referring to 2021 again, there were 2,400 children killed in gun related violence. Over 90% of those deaths involved incidents where the "children" had guns. Over 90% of those incidents were gang related. That tells anyone with common sense that it is not solely a gun issue, but mostly it is a parental issue.

Something like 2/3 of gun murders involves suspects and victims who knew each other. 13 percent involves gang violence. Under 3 percent involves random attacks on the public.

If you were to remove "assault rifle" deaths, you would go from 48,000 +/- deaths to 46,600 +/- deaths.

So when you hear rhetoric, similar to that of the blabbering lib in the video above, it is purposefully lacking context. They're not simply misinformed. It is to promote fear and compliance.
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So, 48,000 people died from guns in a year but you want to put all of the blame for that on bad parenting. Obviously bad parenting can contribute but so can a million other things. The easiest and most efficient and effective way to curb gun violence is decent gun control.

One area where I will agree with you is the assault weapon bit. While we should obviously make it more difficult to get an M-4 into a 15 year olds hands, pistols are a way bigger issue.
 
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You don't think context is important. That doesn't mean that it isn't. One day, you might own your own brain. But it's looking grim.
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The irony of you accusing everyone else of being a sheep while using Anti-Semitic dog whistles like "globalists" is hilarious. These right wing conspiracy nuts like @Mac9192 are rotting your brain.

Context is everything. But adding context doesn't suddenly remove the need for common sense gun control.
 
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eldritchorifice said:
The irony of you accusing everyone else of being a sheep while using Anti-Semitic dog whistles like "globalists" is hilarious. These right wing conspiracy nuts like @Mac9192 are rotting your brain.

Context is everything. But adding context doesn't suddenly remove the need for common sense gun control.
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The word ‘globalists’ is not a dog whistle. The Left is attaching it to anti Semitism to intimidate us into not using it anymore because the Left knows the word fits their agenda
 
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eldritchorifice said:
So, 48,000 people died from guns in a year but you want to put all of the blame for that on bad parenting. Obviously bad parenting can contribute but so can a million other things. The easiest and most efficient and effective way to curb gun violence is decent gun control.

One area where I will agree with you is the assault weapon bit. While we should obviously make it more difficult to get an M-4 into a 15 year olds hands, pistols are a way bigger issue.
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I specifically used parenting as the issue of the so called children that are dying. You know, the MUCH smaller number.

The vast majority gun violence is not curbed in any way by gun control. Over half of murders are done with illegally obtained weapons and in areas where guns are already illegal. It is something that the left ignores to no end.
 
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KDSTONE said:
The word ‘globalists’ is not a dog whistle. The Left is attaching it to anti Semitism to intimidate us into not using it anymore because the Left knows the word fits their agenda
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He literally gave the perfect example of how much of a sheep he is while trying to attach irony to the claim.
 
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My wife had the joy of dealing with the IRS recently. Her and her siblings are looking to sell some property that belonged to her parents. They ended up needing a certain form to complete the sell. The IRS sent the wrong paper 3 times and when they finally sent the right one, it was blank. They finally ended up getting an appointment at the office. Couldn't see them for around a month. They ended going for the appointment. When they got there they were told sorry, couldn't see them. My wife's response was, what happened that we can't see you? The words had hardly landed...she had an armed person beside her with hand on gun asking her if she had a problem. Federal government at it's best and most efficient. Thankfully, after contacting an elected official, they received the paperwork they needed.
 
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GhostOf301 said:
Libs are the most disingenuous creatures in this country. They want to cite the number of people killed by guns without including the context of the events. Like mass shootings for instance. We are programed to think of school shootings or other random public shootings that kill or injury 3 or more people when we hear mass shooting. So in 2021 there were 678 mass shooting events in which 303 didn't have any deaths. 88% of those were gang, or domestic related. 783 people died in mass shootings. That's a lot IMO. But of the 48,000+ that died as a result of gun violence, which includes suicide, that is a small percentage.

Then there is the involvement in children. This number has almost doubled over the past 5 years. Referring to 2021 again, there were 2,400 children killed in gun related violence. Over 90% of those deaths involved incidents where the "children" had guns. Over 90% of those incidents were gang related. That tells anyone with common sense that it is not solely a gun issue, but mostly it is a parental issue.

Something like 2/3 of gun murders involves suspects and victims who knew each other. 13 percent involves gang violence. Under 3 percent involves random attacks on the public.

If you were to remove "assault rifle" deaths, you would go from 48,000 +/- deaths to 46,600 +/- deaths.

So when you hear rhetoric, similar to that of the blabbering lib in the video above, it is purposefully lacking context. They're not simply misinformed. It is to promote fear and compliance.
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I’m a retired teacher and still teach Drivers Ed. Each year all staff members must complete a safe schools training. One of the modules is about school shootings. One of the questions at the end of the video ask if it’s true or false “school shootings are on the rise.” The answer is false and states that school shootings have been on the decline the last three decades. The media and libs don’t want you to know this.
 
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"Well if you remove this part of the statistic then its no longer true." Yeah no shit, if I remove Caleb Love's 3 and add Marks misses then Duke beats the Cheats in the FF. Problem is ya kinda can't. Just like you cant just remove part of an age group to suit your point.
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So children are 19 years old?
 
Btw, Lahaina…..absolutely intentional. Give it less than 18 months, WEF and their comrades will take over and it will become a 15 minute city.
 
dukesince91 said:
I’m a retired teacher and still teach Drivers Ed. Each year all staff members must complete a safe schools training. One of the modules is about school shootings. One of the questions at the end of the video ask if it’s true or false “school shootings are on the rise.” The answer is false and states that school shootings have been on the decline the last three decades. The media and libs don’t want you to know this.
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You're an idiot and a liar.

 
Liberals are always so angry and quick to fly off fhe rails. I agree that one child death is too many. And until the number of school shootings is zero, I am not going to worry myself with whether they are increasing or decreasing.

Looking at factual numbers does not mean that you don't care, btw. It is important to look at context and trends in everything in order to make rational decisions on how to combat issues. We hear that guns are the leading cause of death amongst children and it gets us emotional. When we're emotional, we're easy to manipulate. If you take children over 12 out of the equation, gun violence doesn't even show up as a leading cause of death, let alone THE leading cause of death. If you were to remove the children who were killed in school shootings, it wouldn't put a dent in the number of what they're calling children gun deaths.

We are a melting pot of cultures. And unfortunately, there are a lot of broken cultures. Unless you can physically get rid of every gun, or at least a shit ton of them, you are not going to fix the problem with gun control. You need to fix the families. Restore faith in a higher being and teach morals. It is no coincidence that the number of teens involved in gun violence skyrocketed in 2020 and 2021. The same year we vilified our police. Police stopped patrolling in many areas because it became too dangerous. And now you have streets that are open game for gangs and drug dealers. The two top reasons why teens are involved with guns. So we need to allow the police to do their jobs and protect their lives without being made out to be enemies. We've literally sacrificed civilian lives to reduce a relatively low number of police involved shootings. So the same people who want to terrify you with the number of children dying from gun violence are the ones who support the policies that have led to the gun violence. And it's not by accident.
 
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What constitutes as a school shooting is also very loose. Again, not on accident.
 
dukesince91 said:
Haha, wrong. Just stating what is in the training modules. I’m an idiot, coming from you that’s hilarious!
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Haha, you're just lying. And the off chance you're not, why wouldn't you report it? It's verifiably false so whoever is creating those modules is trying to intentionally misinform kids.
 
eldritchorifice said:
Haha, you're just lying. And the off chance you're not, why wouldn't you report it? It's verifiably false so whoever is creating those modules is trying to intentionally misinform kids.
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You’re probably right, because, as we all know, conservatives have a stranglehold on the educational system in this country
 
eldritchorifice said:
Haha, you're just lying. And the off chance you're not, why wouldn't you report it? It's verifiably false so whoever is creating those modules is trying to intentionally misinform kids.
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Misinform kids? Those studies aren't to inform kids. Maybe @dukesince91 can give the criteria for the training module. Because the criteria from what you are citing is probably not what you think of when you hear about a school shooting. You have a good habit of ignoring things that destroy the narratives that you subscribe to.
 
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