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Survivors? Drama much?

Florida did the right thing - protect the vulnerable giving prompt treatment, allowing nature to do its thing.

ps vaccination does nothing to stop infection or transmission, and it’s becoming more debatable that it prevents serious illness. Not sure you want to go down that rabbit hole....
cool...virus beaters then, although some didn't survive
 
Mac, please.... what was political in my response to Timo????...having cordial and civil convo is possible
You buy what the corrupt media sells. You’re being nice, which you always are. But, the fact remains, you lean left so you refuse to think you’ve been lied to.

That’s the issue.
 
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cool...virus beaters then, although some didn't survive
Again, drama much 😉

dude I’m not trying to be a d*ck here but it’s incredibly frustrating to see things like this as I’m knee-deep in it often with my career. Sars co v 2 is real, it’s potentially dangerous (well it was much more dangerous with Alpha), but we are handling it much better now, and it’s weakening as that’s what viruses tend to do. It’s never going away - we need to evolve but also stop trying to scare everyone to death....
 
You buy what the corrupt media sells. You’re being nice, which you always are. But, the fact remains, you lean left so you refuse to think you’ve been lied to.

That’s the issue.
you dont actual know what i think....you can assume..... I haven't really delved too deep into anything on this thread, but I do disagree w/ most everything you post....i counter what i choose and go right on by most.....w/o being condescending, insulting, and etc...
 
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Again, drama much 😉

dude I’m not trying to be a d*ck here but it’s incredibly frustrating to see things like this as I’m knee-deep in it often with my career. Sars co v 2 is real, it’s potentially dangerous (well it was much more dangerous with Alpha), but we are handling it much better now, and it’s weakening as that’s what viruses tend to do. It’s never going away - we need to evolve but also stop trying to scare everyone to death....
where actually was the lie in saying survivors.....most people catch covid and shake it off....some unfortunately dont....so arent they survivors who shake it off?.l..and i changed it w/o a problem....did survivors really bother you?....and kudos to work!..can i say be safe?
 
i agree w/ that cyclical point Timo..yes Maine then Florida in the elderly % of pop..when very high its gonna at some point drop very low and vice versa

top 5....just for the numbers
Cali 40 mill pop 5mil cases 74k deaths
Tex 30...................4..................74k
Fla 22......................3.7...............61k
NY 19........................2.7..............57k
Penn 13......................1.7...............33k
Timo's point is that the summer surge in Florida was made political because of their governor being a popular conservative choice to run for president. The left and the corporate media ignored reasons why Florida was struggling, among many other southern states, and blamed his policies even though trends and trajectories have not been altered by policies in the least. If there was fair reporting on Covid and not political blabber, it would be reported that Florida, though heavily affected, actually handled covid as well as any other state or better despite the many things going against them, such as...

1. 2nd oldest population by .01/100k to Maine.

2. 3rd highest population by permanent residents.

3. Millions of vacationers over the summer time.

4. Over 25 cities with permanent resident population of over 100k. (Density in population is the biggest factor of the spread.)

5. People are more likely to gather inside (where it transmits the most) in the summer in Florida to escape the heat and humidity.

All this while limiting the mandates on their citizens and allowing for treatment to be a focus instead of the impossible task to keep the virus from spreading. It's going to make it through the population. Keeping people working and enjoying their freedoms and their right to choose what to put in their bodies.

Right now Michigan is getting hammered by covid at a higher rate than Florida's summer surge, Minnesota, Illinois, Pennsylvania, New York and many other blue states are at significantly higher rates right now than this same time last year. Let's see how many news outlets and politicians will blame their democrat governors like they did with Florida.
 
Timo's point is that the summer surge in Florida was made political because of their governor being a popular conservative choice to run for president. The left and the corporate media ignored reasons why Florida was struggling, among many other southern states, and blamed his policies even though trends and trajectories have not been altered by policies in the least. If there was fair reporting on Covid and not political blabber, it would be reported that Florida, though heavily affected, actually handled covid as well as any other state or better despite the many things going against them, such as...

1. 2nd oldest population by .01/100k to Maine.

2. 3rd highest population by permanent residents.

3. Millions of vacationers over the summer time.

4. Over 25 cities with permanent resident population of over 100k. (Density in population is the biggest factor of the spread.)

5. People are more likely to gather inside (where it transmits the most) in the summer in Florida to escape the heat and humidity.

All this while limiting the mandates on their citizens and allowing for treatment to be a focus instead of the impossible task to keep the virus from spreading. It's going to make it through the population. Keeping people working and enjoying their freedoms and their right to choose what to put in their bodies.

Right now Michigan is getting hammered by covid at a higher rate than Florida's summer surge, Minnesota, Illinois, Pennsylvania, New York and many other blue states are at significantly higher rates right now than this same time last year. Let's see how many news outlets and politicians will blame their democrat governors like they did with Florida.
and i didnt refute anything he said.....my comment was the flip side which brought his "cyclical" post about, and I agree w/ him
 
where actually was the lie in saying survivors.....most people catch covid and shake it off....some unfortunately dont....so arent they survivors who shake it off?.l..and i changed it w/o a problem....did survivors really bother you?....and kudos to work!..can i say be safe?
Well we survive bacteria and viruses every hour of every day. Saying you survive covid simply by not dying says little to nothing, that’s my point.

when it all started, I was more in your camp. As time has gone on though, and I’ve seen the constant manipulation of data, changing of guidelines and definitions, and insane greed tactic of the gov/pharma, extorting the taxpayers for a treatment that they knew all along is ineffective in preventing transmission and now arguably death, I’ve been awaken to the corrupt mess we are victims to.

for example, I wish I could legally show you data I have access to that clearly show that IF you ingest/take the right amount of D3 daily, or if you take sublingual zinc prophylactically, you are essentially immune to covid. Why are we not allowed to share this without fear of being lambasted and destroyed? It’s insanity. And yes this went on under Trump to, so all sides are in on this silencing.

for those of you I talk to on this board or haven’t in a while, I’d seriously appreciate you not sharing I said the above 😉
 
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and i didnt refute anything he said.....my comment was the flip side which brought his "cyclical" post about, and I agree w/ him
Right. But you don't seem to be willing to acknowledge the point in bringing up Florida's numbers. And you seem to be brushing off the unfair coverage Florida got.
 
Right. But you don't seem to be willing to acknowledge the point in bringing up Florida's numbers. And you seem to be brushing off the unfair coverage Florida got.
I acknowledge that it has indeed decreased after a very high increase...how can I brush off the coverage aspect when I didn't speak to it....my perspective is that Florida got so much coverage on how DeSantis went about things, no mandates, no masks in schools and etc..while people were dropping like flies....thats my take, but I didn't share that
 
Well we survive bacteria and viruses every hour of every day. Saying you survive covid simply by not dying says little to nothing, that’s my point.

when it all started, I was more in your camp. As time has gone on though, and I’ve seen the constant manipulation of data, changing of guidelines and definitions, and insane greed tactic of the gov/pharma, extorting the taxpayers for a treatment that they knew all along is ineffective in preventing transmission and now arguably death, I’ve been awaken to the corrupt mess we are victims to.

for example, I wish I could legally show you data I have access to that clearly show that IF you ingest/take the right amount of D3 daily, or if you take sublingual zinc prophylactically, you are essentially immune to covid. Why are we not allowed to share this without fear of being lambasted and destroyed? It’s insanity. And yes this went on under Trump to, so all sides are in on this silencing.

for those of you I talk to on this board or haven’t in a while, I’d seriously appreciate you not sharing I said the above 😉
Fair enough on the 1st paragraph

Seems you have a different lense through your work and interactions 2nd paragraph

If its thats simple, then why not share with the world....I get the greed pharma aspect to why know, but that's terrible 3rd paragraph

Say it louder....😆 4th paragraph
 
I acknowledge that it has indeed decreased after a very high increase...how can I brush off the coverage aspect when I didn't speak to it....my perspective is that Florida got so much coverage on how DeSantis went about things, no mandates, no masks in schools and etc..while people were dropping like flies....thats my take, but I didn't share that
Dropping like flies? Were things really better in the other most populous states like California and Texas. Fact is, lockdowns don’t work. The jig is up If hospitalizations are 10 percent less in lockdown mode, IF, does that justify making eight year olds wear masks all day? To ruin people’s businesses? To make it spectacularly easy to commit voter fraud. It’s worked out great for the Dems, well until now. 2022 midterms will be historic. The Dems covid failure and fraud plus historic inflation and political incompetence will lead to a red wave the likes of which you have never seen
 
I acknowledge that it has indeed decreased after a very high increase...how can I brush off the coverage aspect when I didn't speak to it....my perspective is that Florida got so much coverage on how DeSantis went about things, no mandates, no masks in schools and etc..while people were dropping like flies....thats my take, but I didn't share that
You believe everything the media tells you and don’t realize how agenda driven it is I watch fox news and realize it’s spin on the nightly shows although they keep in it real too You Dems watch the other networks as if it’s down the road unbiased reporting and believe pretty much everything. I bet y’all were eating that Jesse smolette and Kyle rittenhouse shit up weren’t you? Whoopsy daisy
 
Dropping like flies? Were things really better in the other most populous states like California and Texas. Fact is, lockdowns don’t work. The jig is up If hospitalizations are 10 percent less in lockdown mode, IF, does that justify making eight year olds wear masks all day? To ruin people’s businesses? To make it spectacularly easy to commit voter fraud. It’s worked out great for the Dems, well until now. 2022 midterms will be historic. The Dems covid failure and fraud plus historic inflation and political incompetence will lead to a red wave the likes of which you have never seen
Good post. We all know why they went after Florida. He didn’t, and doesn’t, toe the company line. Your point about 22 being a red wave should be true.

But we’ve seen what the cheating bastards can do. So I won’t believe it until I see it.
 
Good post. We all know why they went after Florida. He didn’t, and doesn’t, toe the company line. Your point about 22 being a red wave should be true.

But we’ve seen what the cheating bastards can do. So I won’t believe it until I see it.
Yes some more variants may be coming our way In the summer of 22 not to mention some racial injustice hoaxes will be on the menu as well. That’s all they got; they can’t govern, their policies don’t work, so their only chance is to keep everyone scared and angry
 
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Yes some more variants may be coming our way In the summer of 22 not to mention some racial injustice hoaxes will be on the menu as well. That’s all they got; they can’t govern, their policies don’t work, so their only chance is to keep everyone scared and angry
Well it’s working. Look no further than the libs in this thread. @BOOGIEMAN1914 makes attempts (very weak though) to at least debate, but the poor guy I’m afraid has drank too much kool aid. @durhamgolfer is swimming in it.
 
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I acknowledge that it has indeed decreased after a very high increase...how can I brush off the coverage aspect when I didn't speak to it....my perspective is that Florida got so much coverage on how DeSantis went about things, no mandates, no masks in schools and etc..while people were dropping like flies....thats my take, but I didn't share that
You are a perfect example of how the media manipulates the population. The entire point Timo was making was about how the numbers in Florida are only news when they can be used to negatively affect the DeSantis. You came in with a no sh... Sherlock comment about covid, not media coverage. By not addressing his point, you brushed off the unfair coverage Florida received.

Your comments here are an example of how easily you can be manipulated. Florida has summer surges. They got hit hard by an easily transmitted virus. The northern and western states get winter surges. And they are on a bad start. These states get their surges despite their mandates. Masks, mandates, social distancing, vaccines will not slow or stop the spread. You can look at a thousand different trends and trajectories and see no difference regardless of policy. DeSantis actually governs with science. Mandates hurt more people than the virus itself. Masks are theatre and the vaccine is useless in terms of slowing the spread. Therapeutics and healthy lifestyles will be the best way combat the virus until its mutations have faded. You're an adult, you know the risks. If you don’t want to live your life, then don't. But don't get in the way of other people who choose to live their's. That's basically what DeSantis' message is. And it should be everyone else's.
 
You are a perfect example of how the media manipulates the population. The entire point Timo was making was about how the numbers in Florida are only news when they can be used to negatively affect the DeSantis. You came in with a no sh... Sherlock comment about covid, not media coverage. By not addressing his point, you brushed off the unfair coverage Florida received.

Your comments here are an example of how easily you can be manipulated. Florida has summer surges. They got hit hard by an easily transmitted virus. The northern and western states get winter surges. And they are on a bad start. These states get their surges despite their mandates. Masks, mandates, social distancing, vaccines will not slow or stop the spread. You can look at a thousand different trends and trajectories and see no difference regardless of policy. DeSantis actually governs with science. Mandates hurt more people than the virus itself. Masks are theatre and the vaccine is useless in terms of slowing the spread. Therapeutics and healthy lifestyles will be the best way combat the virus until its mutations have faded. You're an adult, you know the risks. If you don’t want to live your life, then don't. But don't get in the way of other people who choose to live their's. That's basically what DeSantis' message is. And it should be everyone else's.
Liberals will never acknowledge how biased 90% of the media is . This would require them to reexamine everything; they like their world view. It defines them. Most of this country is either evil ( whites but not them) or helpless and confused ( minorities). In this landscape or hellscape if you prefer, only they can come in and save the day The worse things are, the more power they can get
 
Well it’s working. Look no further than the libs in this thread. @BOOGIEMAN1914 makes attempts (very weak though) to at least debate, but the poor guy I’m afraid has drank too much kool aid. @durhamgolfer is swimming in it.
People who define themselves by being more enlightened and virtuous than the rest of us have zero interest in reality and truth. It’s all about feelings, fake crises, and racial hoaxes to get that extra ten percent of the votes you couldn’t win without
 
Dropping like flies? Were things really better in the other most populous states like California and Texas. Fact is, lockdowns don’t work. The jig is up If hospitalizations are 10 percent less in lockdown mode, IF, does that justify making eight year olds wear masks all day? To ruin people’s businesses? To make it spectacularly easy to commit voter fraud. It’s worked out great for the Dems, well until now. 2022 midterms will be historic. The Dems covid failure and fraud plus historic inflation and political incompetence will lead to a red wave the likes of which you have never seen
i guess you missed my entire acknowledgement and just decided to perch on the "dropping like flies"....california and texas wasnt the discussion at that moment, it was florida.....regardless, Florida had a very rough august in terms of case and deaths and florida is looking very good at the moment and i still agree w/ timo w/ the cyclical nature
 
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i guess you missed my entire acknowledgement and just decided to perch on the "dropping like flies"....california and texas wasnt the discussion at that moment, it was florida.....regardless, Florida had a very rough august in terms of case and deaths and florida is looking very good at the moment and i still agree w/ timo w/ the cyclical nature
“Florida is looking very good at the moment@ lol. I just don’t have much respect for Dems at the moment due to all the lies and hoaxes. There was a time when I considered you worthy adversaries but now: Carter, Clinton, and Kennedy won’t have nothing to do with you pathetic race obsessed freaks
 
i guess you missed my entire acknowledgement and just decided to perch on the "dropping like flies"....california and texas wasnt the discussion at that moment, it was florida.....regardless, Florida had a very rough august in terms of case and deaths and florida is looking very good at the moment and i still agree w/ timo w/ the cyclical nature
How bout that ozuna? If this country were so racist he would spend his entire life in jail I kinda wish he would at least a few years. But Jesus. This cat will be there opening day. Are you kidding me?!! No prison. I think he had to take a few anger mgt classes while the girl he tried to kill is still recovering. Lol
 
i guess you missed my entire acknowledgement and just decided to perch on the "dropping like flies"....california and texas wasnt the discussion at that moment, it was florida.....regardless, Florida had a very rough august in terms of case and deaths and florida is looking very good at the moment and i still agree w/ timo w/ the cyclical nature
Thumbs down to this post
 
where actually was the lie in saying survivors.....most people catch covid and shake it off....some unfortunately dont....so arent they survivors who shake it off?.l..and i changed it w/o a problem....did survivors really bother you?....and kudos to work!..can i say be safe?
Bc most of us had the shingles, flu, measles and we don’t walk around calling ourselves chicken pox survivors. Not to be crass but most people who died of covid were going to be dead soon anyway. This is the central fact the msm doesn’t want you to know
 
i guess you missed my entire acknowledgement and just decided to perch on the "dropping like flies"....california and texas wasnt the discussion at that moment, it was florida.....regardless, Florida had a very rough august in terms of case and deaths and florida is looking very good at the moment and i still agree w/ timo w/ the cyclical nature
Boogie at least you still got some energy. Fellow Braves fan. So I’ll give you major points for that. Datt and Durham I have worry for them ? Are they institutionalized somewhere? Do you have an address ?
 
i guess you missed my entire acknowledgement and just decided to perch on the "dropping like flies"....california and texas wasnt the discussion at that moment, it was florida.....regardless, Florida had a very rough august in terms of case and deaths and florida is looking very good at the moment and i still agree w/ timo w/ the cyclical nature
And my point is that, when not if, you see a surge in cases again in Florida, take a guess what will be all over the news. It has nothing to do with mandates, it has nothing to do with your health and well being. It’s politics, plain and simple. The fact that we are still allowing guys like Fauci to go on prime time tv and say that HE is “The Science.” is frightening. Who died and made this guy king? No one else’s opinion matters? Certainly not the doctor in South Africa who first discovered the new omnicron variant. She researched it and realized that the symptoms are very mild, but like all variants of any virus it’s probably more contagious. In other words…who bleeping cares?

Why are we still testing for Covid like the world is going to end? It’s a rhetorical question because the answer is obvious- fear mongering to maintain control. To convince people that their entire safety and well being is to have the government in control.

Want to avoid serious harm from Covid? Eat healthy. Exercise. Get some fresh air. Be in the sun. Take some vitamins and some zinc. Problem solved, move on with your lives!
 
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i guess you missed my entire acknowledgement and just decided to perch on the "dropping like flies"....california and texas wasnt the discussion at that moment, it was florida.....regardless, Florida had a very rough august in terms of case and deaths and florida is looking very good at the moment and i still agree w/ timo w/ the cyclical nature
The media coverage was the discussion. You ignored that and made it strictly about covid casea.
 
And my point is that, when not if, you see a surge in cases again in Florida, take a guess what will be all over the news. It has nothing to do with mandates, it has nothing to do with your health and well being. It’s politics, plain and simple. The fact that we are still allowing guys like Fauci to go on prime time tv and say that HE is “The Science.” is frightening. Who died and made this guy king? No one else’s opinion matters? Certainly not the doctor in South Africa who first discovered the new omnicron variant. She researched it and realized that the symptoms are very mild, but like all variants of any virus it’s probably more contagious. In other words…who bleeping cares?

Why are we still testing for Covid like the world is going to end? It’s a rhetorical question because the answer is obvious- fear mongering to maintain control. To convince people that their entire safety and well being is to have the government in control.

Want to avoid serious harm from Covid? Eat healthy. Exercise. Get some fresh air. Be in the sun. Take some vitamins and some zinc. Problem solved, move on with your lives!
Correct. Tony fauci is an evil monster. He refers to himself in the third person, he has no idea what he’s talking about, and he says a lot of stupid stuff Is it Trumps fault?
 
Correct. Tony fauci is an evil monster. He refers to himself in the third person, he has no idea what he’s talking about, and he says a lot of stupid stuff Is it Trumps fault?
Actually in a way yes. He should have fired Tony.
 
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“Florida is looking very good at the moment@ lol. I just don’t have much respect for Dems at the moment due to all the lies and hoaxes. There was a time when I considered you worthy adversaries but now: Carter, Clinton, and Kennedy won’t have nothing to do with you pathetic race obsessed freaks
thats a lot projection placed towards me, or are you just venting?
Bc most of us had the shingles, flu, measles and we don’t walk around calling ourselves chicken pox survivors. Not to be crass but most people who died of covid were going to be dead soon anyway. This is the central fact the msm doesn’t want you to know
most people were gonna be dead soon anyway????...cant cosign that all
 
The media coverage was the discussion. You ignored that and made it strictly about covid casea.
the media wasnt the original post of timo.....he included that in his 2nd post....i choose what i decide to talk about.....you alls take on the media isnt atopic i CHOOSE to converse about

this was Timo's intitial post that i replied to and i didnt speak about the Pelosi part either.....i can choose, right?

Report coming out that Florida, yes that Florida, has the lowest Covid case numbers in the country. Amazing how that works. Maybe that’s why Nancy bought a $25M mansion in Jupiter along the water.
 
And my point is that, when not if, you see a surge in cases again in Florida, take a guess what will be all over the news. It has nothing to do with mandates, it has nothing to do with your health and well being. It’s politics, plain and simple. The fact that we are still allowing guys like Fauci to go on prime time tv and say that HE is “The Science.” is frightening. Who died and made this guy king? No one else’s opinion matters? Certainly not the doctor in South Africa who first discovered the new omnicron variant. She researched it and realized that the symptoms are very mild, but like all variants of any virus it’s probably more contagious. In other words…who bleeping cares?

Why are we still testing for Covid like the world is going to end? It’s a rhetorical question because the answer is obvious- fear mongering to maintain control. To convince people that their entire safety and well being is to have the government in control.

Want to avoid serious harm from Covid? Eat healthy. Exercise. Get some fresh air. Be in the sun. Take some vitamins and some zinc. Problem solved, move on with your lives!
you are probably right about your take on Florida/surge/media

you have your opinion on covid testing...some people may want the peace of mind knowing whether they have it or not and could be the reason why its spread amongst loved ones...it could be that simple or your diabolical take or a mix of both
 
the media wasnt the original post of timo.....he included that in his 2nd post....i choose what i decide to talk about.....you alls take on the media isnt atopic i CHOOSE to converse about

this was Timo's intitial post that i replied to and i didnt speak about the Pelosi part either.....i can choose, right?

Report coming out that Florida, yes that Florida, has the lowest Covid case numbers in the country. Amazing how that works. Maybe that’s why Nancy bought a $25M mansion in Jupiter along the water.
It was pretty clear why he brought it up and it's pretty clear why you choose to ignore the point.
 
Fair enough on the 1st paragraph

Seems you have a different lense through your work and interactions 2nd paragraph

If its thats simple, then why not share with the world....I get the greed pharma aspect to why know, but that's terrible 3rd paragraph

Say it louder....😆 4th paragraph
Lol

I would lose my job if I started sharing data like that. Sure I can “tell others” but then I’m just another nut job leaning on “hocus pocus” conspiracy theories. Pharma is getting filthy rich - I know I’ve loaded up and done well on Pfizer and Moderna, but ultimately I feel sick because of what they’re doing.

regardless, if someone wants to get jabbed, I say do it, it’s their body, but it shouldn’t be forced as it’s clearly ineffective both short- and long-term. For many, though, it’s a safety blanket. I get it.
 
Dropping like flies? Were things really better in the other most populous states like California and Texas. Fact is, lockdowns don’t work. The jig is up If hospitalizations are 10 percent less in lockdown mode, IF, does that justify making eight year olds wear masks all day? To ruin people’s businesses? To make it spectacularly easy to commit voter fraud. It’s worked out great for the Dems, well until now. 2022 midterms will be historic. The Dems covid failure and fraud plus historic inflation and political incompetence will lead to a red wave the likes of which you have never seen
What a glorious sight that will be.
 
It was pretty clear why he brought it up and it's pretty clear why you choose to ignore the point.
it wasn't pretty clear imo from his 1st post...and yes it become clear in his 2nd...please do tell why i chose to choose what I wanted to talk about
 
thats a lot projection placed towards me, or are you just venting?

most people were gonna be dead soon anyway????...cant cosign that all
Point is, the most vulnerable are the most vulnerable. The rest of us need to keep grinding. No masks no nothing. Bs does nothing
 
it wasn't pretty clear imo from his 1st post...and yes it become clear in his 2nd...please do tell why i chose to choose what I wanted to talk about
Are you cool with 6 year olds wear masks all day? If you are cool pretty soon they’ll have all our kids in a haz mat suit Low taxes freedom and common sense
 
Lol

I would lose my job if I started sharing data like that. Sure I can “tell others” but then I’m just another nut job leaning on “hocus pocus” conspiracy theories. Pharma is getting filthy rich - I know I’ve loaded up and done well on Pfizer and Moderna, but ultimately I feel sick because of what they’re doing.

regardless, if someone wants to get jabbed, I say do it, it’s their body, but it shouldn’t be forced as it’s clearly ineffective both short- and long-term. For many, though, it’s a safety blanket. I get it.
Linus had his security blanket. I got jabbed and I been sleeping better ever since.
 
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