Thanks! Sounds like a pretty reasonable exception, if it can be documented.
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NC has one of the lowest starting salaries, but ranks near the middle in average salaries. Actually pretty proportionate to the ranking in quality of education. Not sure about the worker rights thing. Such as what?
So it doesn’t really matter whether he said it or not; you’re going to have a hateful, hostile attitude toward him regardless. Just so we’re clear.
Yes. It’s a conclusion I’ve made from watching him over the years. Obviously you haven’t. Because if you have been watching him, you would have noticed his decline in health. Mentally and physically.
You know it too. If not, you’re pretty dense.
The NCGA has lied about average teacher salary.
It doesn’t surprise me in the least that you are clueless about workers rights. Unfortunately, one of those values I don’t have is believing you’re worth explaining it to.
The NCGA has lied about average teacher salary.
It doesn’t surprise me in the least that you are clueless about workers rights. Unfortunately, one of those values I don’t have is believing you’re worth explaining it to.
You have to be pretty dense to think I'm going to concede one MLing thing to you and the other far-right extremists here.
You just confirmed what I thought was true with this childish take. It's not about what's right or wrong in your eyes, you just won't admit anything that we say as being correct.
AOC roasted for shedding 'crocodile tears' after crying over Israel Iron Dome House vote
"Squad" member Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., was accused on Thursday of shedding "crocodile tears" after she reportedly broke down crying on the House floor following a vote to give another $1 billion to Israel in order to restore its Iron Dome missile interception system.
And yet she could only work up the nerve to vote present. She's a complete sham.
If your take is that President Biden is the worst human ever to have humaned at the humaning, you've already forfeited being right and you've already chosen to engage on the level of a child, and I am not throwing you a stapes.
Y'all need to worry more about what you bring and less about my take.
First off, I’ve not said that Biden is the worst human ever. Another weak effort by you. He is a pathetic person. DC is full of them. You are pathetic for continuously playing politics, but at least you admitted it, even though your views are dangerous.
Just curious, what do you teach?
I appreciate that you're one of very few conservatives here who hasn't used personal info like the fact I am in public education against me, Mac, but I'm not telling you what I teach, or what my role is in public schools. Just b/c it will keep some of y'all up nights, I will acknowledge that I frequently include social commentary about issues that affect my kids.
I used hyperbole about how bad some of y'all have talked about President Biden. Some of y'all. Some of you have absolutely said he was the all-time worst at something or another. Saying he is a "pathetic person," as opposed to "his handling of the Afghanistan has been pathetic" or "his mental acuity is pathetic," is essentially the same thing.
What you're not recognizing here, Mac, is the plank in your own eye. I didn't admit that I was playing politics w/o context. I said that when y'all go to asinine, bc extremes w/ your rhetoric, I'm going to dig in my heels and not conceded a freakin' millimeter. Meeting in the middle does not begin w/ y'all putting a stake in the ground as far to the right as possible, then expecting me to respect that point relative to the "middle."
There’s nothing I agree with you libs about politically. I refuse to meet in the middle when I see nothing Biden says or does that helps us all. To take it a step further, I can only think of 1 democrat that makes any sense at all. All you libs here do is make nothing but excuses for “your side.”
You read that I’m saying Biden is pathetic, yet overlook why I’m saying he’s pathetic.
So you admit that you proselytize to a captive audience. If your sermons on the mount in the classroom are one tenth as partisan and delusional as your rantings on this board, I truly feel nothing but the sorriest of sorries for the poor students who did nothing wrong but draw the short straw in some educrat’s office
You bandy about words like ‘racist’ and ‘far right extremist’ so casually the words no longer have meaning. I know that’s the liberal go to when all else fails but it’s time for an original thought or two
You once celebrated thousands of people who lost their homes to flooding during Florence 4 years ago just because my house flooded. So don't act like you are above being personal. Biden is a POS. Always has been. Not because he is a democrat, but because he is a POS who refuses to even claim a grandchild, lied about a drunk driver killing his wife and child when his wife was the drunk driver. Used his political influence to enrich his family and "10% for the big guy". Eulogised a klan member calling him a great mentor. Among many other POS things he has done in his corrupt career. He is literally everything people accused the orange man of being except he has a D next to his name.
Anyone here watched or heard about this? Sort of sports related, but I didn't want to start a thread about it. Felt this might be the best place to post it. Flair comes off looking pretty bad here. Dark Side of the Ring is a really good series from VICE if anyone is interested in the behind the scenes of wrestling. Could give two shits about watching wrestling, but I find all this fascinating.
I recall being sympathetic about your home's damage despite our intense animosity toward each other. I'll need receipts on your claim. I will freely admit I'm not above being personal, but I do not think that is an accurate example. If you have evidence to the contrary, I am willing and eager to apologize. Bring it if you got it.
The late Senator Robert Byrd said in 1952 that he had not been a member of the KKK for several years and later wrote about joining the Klan as "the greatest mistake of my life." He died at the age of 92 in 2010. You represent that as "eulogised [sic] a Klan member." Either you know the truth and choose to deliberately misrepresent it, you lying POF, or you are parroting what some other lying POF said like a sheeple.
Hunter Biden fathered a child with a stripper and has nothing to do with his daughter, now two. The child's mother and her family never brought it up until the campaign for 2020 began. Why would a grandfather have anything to do with a grandchild his son doesn't have anything to do with? Why would he comment on it publicly?
President Biden's first wife and his daughter died in a car accident. There is no evidence that Neilia Biden had been drinking. None. You call the father and husband who lost his wife and daughter in a car accident a "PO*" for repeating the rumor that existed in the community at the time -- that he didn't make up himself -- that the other driver was drunk. In 2008, after the late Curtis Dunn's family objected to Biden's characterizing him as drunk, Biden accepted their claim and stopped saying it. 13 years ago. But ultimately what you're doing here, you lying POF, is attacking someone over the details of a car accident that KILLED HIS WIFE AND DAUGHTER.
I'll concede that President Biden invented getting rich from politics and that he is the only politician in the history of politicking to do so. Gah, what a jerk!
President Trump, on the other hand, was born rich and privileged, lies about being self-made, has a history of racist acts and racist statements, used the Office of the Presidency to further enrich himself, and told more documented, proven lies than any President since tracking began. But you equivocate the two.
You're a liar or a sheeple, or both. Most likely both. You're a hypocrite playing partisan politics while claiming it's others -- including me -- playing partisan politics. This despite my clear, consistent statements that I'm not a big fan of President Biden, that he wasn't a top 3 choice for me during the primary, that he is not liberal or progressive enough, and that the extent of the faint praise I've given him is that he was light years ahead of President Trump when it came to my vote.
Is that one Democrat Senator Manchin of WV, by any chance? lol
I fully see the reasons you use to validate calling President Biden pathetic. I will point out that I'm being really generous to call them "reasons" instead of dismissing them as "excuses" like you do.
In bold: Examples of extremist language that only serves to divide us further. And that was really my point about calling President Biden the human being "pathetic": You leave no room for the slightest disagreement. Why, then, would I have any interest at all in conceding a single point to you? I don't think it would soften your rhetoric in the slightest. If anything, it would probably be like blood in the water and encourage you to get more frenzied and maniacal.
The liberals here are outnumbered by a lot. Y'all want to use this place like your own private little echo chamber, as evidenced by how quickly dialogue here devolves into name-calling and polarizing absolutist claims when the rare liberal dares contradict you. There isn't any evidence that y'all vet your media or check yourselves in the slightest, and when challenged on that you double-down.
Lol. You later showed some level of sympathy. But don't pretend that you didn't expose yourself as a trash person by wishing ill will on me despite knowing that I am simply one person out of thousands that were affected. All over your internet grudge. I don't need to provide "receipts" because you know and I know. It doesn't bother me because there are very few people in this world that I hold a lower opinion of than you.
As far as the rest of your post. No thanks. You claim that you are no fan of the POS president, but you have all the excuses ready to go to defend him. I voted for Trump, but would never waste my time defending him as a person. That's the difference between hacks like you me.
That’s rich you talking about an echo chamber when the Left controls and censors Big Tech, controls the msm, universities, and the public school systems. The Left is increasingly intolerant of dissenting opinions ( see Twitter and YouTube). Haven’t heard you complain about that, but someone hurts your feelings on a basketball message board you get butt hurt on the daily.
Unfortunately, that thread was deleted by the mod. LST, or whatever his handle was, canned it. Sad. So much good content in there.
I do wonder what the politics of youngsters would look like if the voices heard were of equal representation. It's ironic, too, because the left frequently talks about diversity. Evidently, diversity of skin tone is the only diversity that matters.
The liberals here are not out numbered by a lot. They just disappeared after they got their way. How many people regularly post ITT? Most of the conservatives still post. Most of the liberals stopped.
They’re very concerned about everyone’s sex life too. Basically if you’re NOT a straight white male Christian you can do no wrong. That’s why they so happily seized on the border patrol using whips on Haitians narrative. The only acceptable villain in the narratives they spin is the White Male even though most of the BP is Hispanic. Close enough I guess when you’re desperate. Al Sharpton showed up so another win for Republicans
Biden's IRS bank account snooping plan faces mounting opposition
Banks are pushing back against a proposal from the Biden administration that could force them to turn over customers' account information to the Internal Revenue Service.
Big Government marches on.
The immutable characteristics are a constant talking about. As if those yield distinct, unassailable advantages. The concept of intersectionality is interesting, because, truthfully, if you fragment out further and further - ablenss, religion, social cognitive ability, education, wealth/poverty, attractiveness, height, strength, fit/obese, age, marital status, children, political affiliation... add those characteristics to race and gender, and suddenly you find you have a unique individual. And that's the right concept, because we should be judged as unique individuals, not collectively as a group.
No, I don't know. That's why I asked. You sound further agitated at being asked to prove what you claim is true. Regardless, if it's something I did, I am truly sorry. I don't wish you harm, regardless of what else I think of you.
Uhh... you do realize that intolerance of intolerance is not the same thing, and not the least bit hypocritical, right?
Not all voices are equally valid on any particular subject. My voice has no place in a discussion of astrophysics or financial planning. Racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, and other forms of bigotry and cruelty have no place being promoted in a classroom and those voices do not deserve any representation, let alone equal representation.
Correcting your lies is not "excuses." It's the truth.
Did President Biden claim his wife was killed by a drunk driver? Yes. Did he make up the rumor? No. Did he stop claiming it when the other driver's family complained? Yes. Was it 13 years ago? Yes. Was Neilia Biden drunk at the time? No.
Did then-Senator Biden eulogize the late Senator Byrd? Yes. Was Byrd once a member of the KKK? Yes. Did he quit the KKK and renounce them? Yes. Did all of that happen 60 years before Biden eulogized him? Yes.
Does Hunter Biden have a two-year old daughter he had with a stripper? Yes. Does he have any relationship with her? No. Had his daughter's family gone public with her parentage prior to the 2020 Presidential campaign? No. Is a grandfather likely to have a relationship with his grandchild if her father/his son has no relationship with that child? No. Does Hunter Biden have any custody of this daughter? No. Would a parent with no relationship with and no custody of a child bring that child from Arkansas to DC to appear on stage beside the President-elect? No.
What's your excuse for leaving all of these true things out in favor of deliberate misrepresentation? I proved you were a flat-out liar on all 3 of those allegations and you can't own it or address it. That makes you a liar and a coward.
When did I say racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, etc. have place in the classroom? How did you arrive at that conclusion? I'm simply saying the classrooms don't have a whole lot of intellectual diversity. That is objectively true (11.5 to 1 ratio of registered Democrats to Republicans).
Just think it would be interesting if the ratio of republicans to democrats was roughly 1 to 1. In an old business axiom says that where two people think exactly alike, one of them is not necessary. If you want to increase knowledge, understanding, and have a well-rounded 360 view of the world, the ideal environment would be exposing yourself to as many views as possible.
I showed up after that point. The current reality is that liberals here are outnumbered by a lot.
I wonder if his students parents know about what he is teaching their kids.Thereare many instances where schools have tried to keep parents from seeing the BS that kids are exposed to on a daily basis
What do you consider a lot? Because there aren't a lot of people who post ITT. And what is the relevance?
Education skews left as a natural by-product of being educated. Exposure to different people, culture, and ideas makes people more liberal and more accepting of others. That does not include acceptance of people espousing any of the prejudices I mentioned (and which you did not name, I know). Further, if teachers aren't actively countering those things (being anti-racist as opposed to just "not racist," for example), they are tacitly condoning them. I'm not going to play the tired line about conservatives being more racist and homophobic, but there are definitely fewer conservatives who will be actively anti- those things. Far more conservatives are going to claim being "colorblind" or "I treat all people the same no matter what race" as opposed to working actively to dismantle white supremacy. Far more conservatives are going to accept religion as an excuse for homophobia and call it a "lifestyle choice" rather than have a "Safe space" poster of some kind.
Examine the values that lead people to go into fields like education, social work, and community organizing. They align more with values on the left. The imbalance you speak of isn't the result of a conspiracy or the devaluing of diversity you called "ironic." It's more of a "No duh" situation, like most business majors being capitalists.
I said it in the original post that you quoted only to whine about what "a lot" means.
Why don’t they post more then? I mean their man (and side) won, so you think they would be defending what’s going on.
Their silence speaks volumes.
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You talking about whining? Funny from the guy whining about being outnumbered 5-4.
The idea that Teachers are better educated I’d laughable.When I was in college my teammates who were struggling to retain their eligibility were directed to take education courses because it was a guaranteed B.My girlfriend at the time taking Masters level courses was making brownies for 50% of her final grade so don’t tell about teachers being underpaid.There are some outstanding teachers but most are not capable of holding a job where they are judged by their results
