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Re: unc Receives NOA from NCAA

06/01/2015


Things I'm hearing....

" It's not good"

I asked if it was Syracuse bad and was told it could be but we won't know for 6 months after lawyers will be involved/ counter arguments

I asked if I should get final 4 tickets and was told to wait and see

I got the impression it was lack of institutional control

also was told SMU is in trouble and it is bad and will be in the news soon

Information is valid to the best of my knowledge.
 
Eccentric former Steelers kicker Jeff Reed was in attendance tonight in Canton for the Steelers first preseason game against the Minnesota Vikings, but things, as they tend to do with Reed, got out of hand.

According to WDVE’s Dale Lolley, Reed was “asked to leave” in the middle of the game. Reed, a Steeler for nine seasons from 2002 to 2010, had quite the reputation for crazy behavior during his career. He was arrested for disorderly conduct and criminal mischief after he reportedly destroyed a paper towel holder at a Sheetz convenience store in New Alexandria, Pa. He was also cited for public intoxication and disorderly conduct just eight months later after a night out celebrating a win over the Cleveland Browns.

Reed, who’s been out of the NFL since 2011, believed as recently as last summer that he could still compete in the NFL.

“I looked into the CFL and the Arena League,” Reed said, via RJ Shaffer of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. “It’s just a lot of work for little pay, and it sounds kind of shallow, but when you’ve played for the most elite level of football and you think you can still do it, why wouldn’t you?”

While Reed may or may not have the same leg that helped the Steelers to two Super Bowls in his tenure, he’s proven he still has the same personality.

P.S. Never Forget


http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/20...er-jeff-reed-escorted-from-hall-of-fame-game/

Tim Williams ‏@realtimwilliams

That was fast... Jeff Reed

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JUST IN: Former #Steelers kicker Jeff Reed has reportedly been kicked out of the HOF game for fighting. Pic @OUtkean

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TomLade ‏@tomlade25

@DustinFox37 former steeler great Jeff reed hammered and about to get escorted out for fighting a Pitt fan haha

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Klassy. Lulz.
 
unx alum Bob Lee...

Carol Folt “…. willingly inherited a mess”

In this Sunday interview in The N&O; unc Chancellor Carol Folt discusses The Great Unpleasantness and her role within it during her tenure. Every reader will zero in on whatever word or phrase tickles their fancy but certainly Madame Folt’s reluctance to acknowledge the validity of comments attributed to Roy Williams and Larry Fedora assuring one/all that “no further harm will come to us” is significant.

She does not address her relationship with the bulldozing tactics of “influential boosters” a/k/a Fat Cats. I would like to hear her thoughts about “them”.

While I remain a cynic regarding Madame Folt, I give her credit for the forthrightness in this interview.


http://bobleesays.com/2015/08/10/carol-folt-willingly-inherited-a-mess/
 
Shameful legacy. #carolinaway...


Report: Former Minnesota AD Faced Sexism Complaints Going Back Years

First, Norwood Teague resigned as the University of Minnesota athletics director after two university employees filed sexual harassment complaints against him for sending them incredibly explicit, and incredibly disgusting, text messages. Then, a Minnesota basketball reporter detailed her own experience being sexually harassed by Teague. And now, the Star Tribune reports that both the University of Minnesota and Virginia Commonwealth University, Teague’s previous employer, have paid a combined $300,000 to settle claims brought about by Teague’s behavior.

In 2012, then VCU women’s basketball coach Beth Cunningham filed a complaint accusing Teague of gender discrimination. The records the paper was able to get their hands on don’t specify the exact reason for the complaint, but do say that the University settled it for $125,000. Cunningham left VCU in 2012 to become the associate head coach at Notre Dame, her alma mater.

Teague was hired by the University of Minnesota in April 2012, and it took fewer than six months for his actions to get his employer in trouble. Via the Star Tribune:

In March 2013, Regina Sullivan, a senior associate athletic director for the University of Minnesota, filed a federal complaint against the U after she was fired from the school in October 2012. Teague, she said, “expected a woman in my position to take a passive role and defer to men’s opinions” on issues pertaining to Title IX, the law that bans sex discrimination in any federally funded school.

In her complaint, Sullivan said Teague fired her because she questioned his “commitment to Title IX.” Records show the U settled with Sullivan in April 2014 for $175,000.


And if you think that’s all, well, you really haven’t been paying attention. Besides the blatant sexual harassment of Star Tribune reporter Amelia Rayno and the two unnamed University employees by Teague, the Star Tribune paints the picture of an athletics department institutionally discriminating against women. It quotes former Gophers women’s volleyball coach Stephanie Schleuder, who sent a letter to the University Board of Regents in 2013 that was ignored. The letter “demand[ed] that Teague apologize for comments he made in the Star Tribune, saying the school could not add more sports because of Title IX.”

The University of Minnesota is also being investigated by the federal government for its compliance with Title IX, after an anonymous complaint alleged that women’s athletics teams were getting too little funding, and that the roster for them were getting smaller.


http://deadspin.com/report-former-m...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
 
Crock....

unc chancellor Folt understands the athletic challenge

Says she’s confident about integrity of coaches

Focused on fair treatment during NCAA process

No preference on possible punishments

Carol Folt knew as she interviewed during the spring of 2013 to become unc’s 11th chancellor that the scandal had cost her predecessor his job, and could define her tenure.

Carol Folt willingly inherited a mess.

University leaders generally remain in the background when athletics are in the public eye. Unless things go really wrong, as was the case at the University of North carolina at Chapel Hill, where ill-formulated intentions, lax oversight and thirst for athletic success created a noxious stew.

The trouble centered on a mere $75 million piece of a nearly $4 billion budgetary puzzle, an athletic realm encompassing at most 800 undergrads out of 18,000, as Folt is quick to point out. Many years of dubious classes and inappropriate manipulation to benefit athletes clearly undercut the school’s reputation and academic integrity and would bring the NCAA sniffing for the second time this decade.

Folt knew as she interviewed during the spring of 2013 to become unc’s 11th chancellor the scandal had cost her predecessor his job, and it could define her tenure. “I was pretty open-eyed about what this was going to be,” Folt said in late July in her Chapel Hill office. “I knew quite a bit, but I think nobody knew what I was eventually able to uncover.

“It wouldn’t have changed my opinion about coming here, it really wouldn’t.”

Before Folt arrived on campus in July 2013, the environmental scientist resolved to dissect what had gone awry at unc. “That need to really probe became very obvious to me,” she says. “I’m well aware that every time you probe there are consequences of that probing, but I couldn’t have been a chancellor if I thought people were telling me not to do something.”

'I’M NOT GOING INTO ‘WOE IS ME.’

-unc chancellor Carol Folt

Supported by system president Tom Ross and others, Folt within eight months of taking office commissioned Kenneth Wainstein, an attorney formerly with the FBI and Homeland Security, to investigate what had gone wrong. The findings released in October 2014 were damning and helped fuel a five-count NCAA Notice of Allegations (NOA) the university is poised to answer publicly later this month.

“I’m not going into ‘woe is me.’ I really think that the most important part of our position is that carolina is taking full responsibility and it’s not looking to set itself up as a victim,” insists Folt, 63. “I think a lot of what happened here absolutely shouldn’t have happened and should have certainly been caught much sooner. That’s really the tragedy of this, is that it wasn’t identified as quickly as possible and completely halted.”

High integrity’

Folt isn’t ready to discuss the university’s response to the NCAA charges, or to speculate about possible punishments. A member of the NCAA Division I Board of Directors while at Dartmouth College, she characterizes college sports’ governing entity as an “institution under flux,” perhaps less predictable than usual as it reinvents its processes under intense criticism and scrutiny.

Nor does she concede, as has been widely reported, that football coach Larry Fedora, men’s basketball coach Roy Williams, or anyone else at unc reassured prospective student-athletes regarding the NCAA’s intentions.

“I don’t know what they really said, and I doubt that you’ve been sitting in with the students,” Folt cautions an interviewer. “I feel that very strongly. We get reported that a lot of things are said. Most of the time when I try to figure it out, they weren’t said in that tone or context.”

SHE WAS NOTHING BUT POSITIVE ABOUT THE ROLE OF ATHLETICS ON OUR CAMPUS.

-Dartmouth athletic director Harry Sheehy

Instead, the chancellor stresses her confidence in the “high integrity” of unc’s coaches and athletic programs, and by implication warns against subordinates presuming to know more than she does. “Myself, I am not making any statements about what the NCAA will or will not do because I don’t have any idea about that, and I don’t think anyone has said that.”

One thing is clear – despite Folt’s Ivy League background, the lifelong Ohio State fan arrived at North carolina familiar with the place of a strong athletic program within an academic setting. “I had much more experience than probably would have seemed obvious,” she says after 30 years at Dartmouth, the last as acting president. “I think what I was actually bringing by coming from Dartmouth is the fact that in a leadership position there I had to do everything. I had direct experience.”

Positive outlook

Folt doesn’t consider the gulf between the Ivys and the power conferences as great as it appears, either.

“For one thing, if you take out the revenue sports, the Ivy Leagues want to win every single NCAA Division I championship,” she says. “Ferociously. And sometimes they do. And they compete for the same athletes.”

A public school swimmer growing up in Akron, Ohio, Folt was faculty mentor for Dartmouth’s swim team and a member of the school’s faculty athletic oversight council.

“She was nothing but positive about the role of athletics on our campus,” recalls Big Green athletic director Harry Sheehy, who oversees 35 varsity sports. “She showed up at events on a regular basis. Was very positive about the student-athlete experience and the value that it added to the collegiate experience.”

Like most high-energy people, Folt is noted for her positive outlook. That apparently extends to her view of how unc’s rehabilitative work will affect the NCAA’s ultimate verdict.

“My biggest issue right now is that we are treated fairly, that what Chapel Hill is held accountable for is what others have been or will be, that we are given a very fair and just process that does include the fact that we are doing and have done many reforms,” Folt says. “I don’t think you will ever find a university that has done as many reforms as we have done, or investigated itself in such a public way.”

Folt won’t share a preference, however hypothetical, between likely terms of NCAA punishment: incurring postseason and scholarship limitations, or forfeiting revenues, championships and banners won while improper academic benefits bolstered athletes’ eligibility.

Still, her comments on the topic are revealing. “I’m happy to deal with the parts, the troubles, what we can do to fix it,” she says. “But it’s harder to fix the pain for the people who did not cause it, don’t deserve it, and still get the teasing and the more substantial parts of that.”

Lost opportunity

Despite her robust defense of those currently at carolina, the chancellor is not above lamenting “the opportunity cost” of her time spent handling unc’s academic/athletic misadventure rather than focusing on other, weightier duties such as managing a research portfolio of nearly $1 billion. In that, she echoes many beleaguered university leaders, past and present.

Where she differs from more seasoned colleagues such as William Kerwan, former co-chair of the Knight Commission, is in her conviction she has a firm grip on the athletic enterprise.

“I just think that higher education presidents, governing boards and institutions have lost control of intercollegiate athletics and it’s, I fear, compromising the integrity of higher education, at least as it’s played in the top division,” Kerwan, the recently retired chancellor of the University System of Maryland, told Inside Higher Ed last month. “It is the one area of a university where presidents are not really in control.”

Folt, a relative novice grappling with big-time sports, admits she “is still learning.” Yet she flatly rejects Kerwin’s premise. “I think it’s really important to think that, in the end, if presidents say they aren’t in control, they aren’t the right president,” she responds. “I put through the Wainstein Report. It is in my hands to get those reforms in place.”

A promising start, to be sure. But that’s not the same as taming the lust for competitive success, pressures on athletes, and ceaseless thirst for revenues that helped to create unc’s and other schools’ problems in the first place.


http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article30333309.html
The irony of course is that Kerwin was echoing William Friday!
 
The irony of course is that Kerwin was echoing William Friday!


Indeed...on a number of levels too. Despite some of his hifalutin notions , Friday would've never blown the whistle on unx. I've read enough about the man to believe he was as much "Do as I say not as I do" as he was about reigning in "big-time" collegiate athletics...at least as far as unx was concerned. Makes perfect sense too. For years , unx has claimed to be something they're not. They've also claimed a moral high ground throughout as well. "To SEEM rather than to BE." That's "Carolina Way Gospel 101." Friday was part of that hypocrisy/arrogance. Folt is cut from the same cloth. Review her words...


Where she differs from more seasoned colleagues such as William Kerwan, former co-chair of the Knight Commission, is in her conviction she has a firm grip on the athletic enterprise.

“I just think that higher education presidents, governing boards and institutions have lost control of intercollegiate athletics and it’s, I fear, compromising the integrity of higher education, at least as it’s played in the top division,” Kerwan, the recently retired chancellor of the University System of Maryland, told Inside Higher Ed last month. “It is the one area of a university where presidents are not really in control.”

Folt, a relative novice grappling with big-time sports, admits she “is still learning.” Yet she flatly rejects Kerwin’s premise. “I think it’s really important to think that, in the end, if presidents say they aren’t in control, they aren’t the right president,” she responds. “I put through the Wainstein Report. It is in my hands to get those reforms in place.”



The Ivy League ain't the "Power 5" when it comes to athletics yet the Dartmouth gal thinks she's got a firm grip on it. unx....unreal. It IS a cult over there and once exposed the victims are tainted forever. She's a puppet of the athletic interests over there but just by rubbin' shoulders with the other tarhole scumbags she becomes an arrogant azzwipe too. Disgusting.
 
Can't imagine who Kane and Eckert are askin' about. LOL....

08/10/2015

Kane, Dan The News and Observer

"This is a request for all publicly releasable personnel information in unc's possession regarding [former employee full name], a former [position title] at unc. Could you please provide, in addition to the standard personnel information such as date hired, age, positions, etc., any information pertaining to promotions, demotions and suspensions. If he was terminated, please confirm and provide any letter explaining the reason. Second, if the university received any sexual harassment/assault complaints regarding [former employee last name] please provide those reports, including the outcomes of any cases. Third, any honors or awards that were given to him for his work at unc. Fourth, please confirm that he is a unc graduate, what year and what degree."

08/10/2015

Eckert, Steve KARE 11

"This is to request, under terms of the North carolina's Public records Act, General Statute section 132, an opportunity to first examine and later copy the following records maintained by the University of North carolina at Chapel Hill: - Any and all complaints, including but not limited to allegations of sexual harassment, involving [former employee full name]. - Any and all records concerning the investigation of any such complaints. - Any and all records concerning the resolution of such complaints, including but not limited to any disciplinary actions. I understand [former employee last name] served in the University of North carolina [department] from [date - date]."


http://publicrecords.unc.edu/public-records/


Eckert's Twitter page...


Investigative journalist @KARE11
. Peabody, duPont-Columbia, Emmy, Murrow, Sigma Delta Chi and 4-time IRE Award winner.

Minnesota

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Doncha love it when midget white boyz show their "skreet cred?" Lulz...

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Wadded panties. Lulz...

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B-Rad works part-time here...

http://tbandc.com/

Hired by Amy Kleissler...

http://tbandc.com/tbc-team/

Amy...

Amy Kleissler, a Learning Specialist for ASPSA during the unc academic scandal, pointed to Bridger several times during the report, stating that she was the one who explained how the courses worked and why student athletes should take them. In the report Bridger told Kleissler her responsibilities as a learning specialist, were to "shepherd the students through the paper-writing process."

http://www.wect.com/story/26868242/uncw-academic-advisor-with-ties-to-unc-scandal-let-go

“Professor Nyang’oro, Chair of the AFRI/AFAM Studies Department, has been very generous in granting several students (not just student-athletes) the opportunity to do independent study papers,” Amy Kleissler, a learning specialist with the athlete support program, wrote in a Feb. 8, 2010, email informing tutors of the AFRI 370 paper class. “Since we have worked with him in the past in this same manner I wanted to let you know that his expectations are very reasonable and very achievable for our students.”

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/unc-scandal/article15573623.html
 
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Re: unc Scandal I _____ hate unc!

Well news is never as slow as it seems. Today a former unc employee has filed suit on harassment in the housekeeping scandal. Former unc employee and graduate (Teague) was dismissed at Minn over female harassment charges. Never mind he had the same issue at VCU.....Baddour said, Teague had no problems at unc.

On the NCAA front I had to laugh when a unc big dog made the statement, " we handled Luck and his WV cronies one time and you can expect a repeat performance."

Meanwhile unc is posting:

Preventing Sexual Harassment Training " participants are invited to attend"

Perhaps they should have said ...Training class : how to prevent sexual harassment but then again they are the wordsmiths.
 
Back to B-Rad. Notice how the drama queen tried to paint his momentary face-to-face with Jay Smith to be just as personally threatening as the VERY REAL threats made towards Mary , Jay and Dan Kane.
 
CNN...

When football season begins, the University of North carolina Tar Heels will have more than just 12 games to worry about. They're also facing the looming judgment of the NCAA infractions board for the worst academic fraud case in the history of college sports.

The NCAA found evidence of academic fraud -- five Level 1 violations -- and is pursuing sanctions against the university. The fraud went on for 18 years and involved members of the athletic department pushing athletes into sham "paper" classes where plagiarism was rampant, the university's own investigation found. It was institutional cheating used to keep players' grades up.

It also explains why unc got a pass for so long.

"I'd love to be able to have all of those tools in my hand to go to the University of North carolina and say, 'That was really bad and so you're going to lose Title IV eligibility (federal student aid programs) for two years.' Something like that," Mitchell said.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/12/us/ncaa-academic-fraud
 
Only at unx. Lulz...


Andrew Carter ‏@_andrewcarter

unc OT R.J. Prince faces a misdemeanor marijuana possession charge (half-ounce or less). He was punished already and has been reinstated.


 
Worst. Fans. Ever...


Jim Bergman ‏@JimBergz

How far will someone go to stop my little #shambook? How about perjuring themselves and identity theft.


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Jim Bergman ‏@JimBergz

@JimBergz I will be nice. 3 PM today I contact my lawyer if you don't fix this. Learn this word.. Metadata. I hope Jay is as nice.


 
NOA response focus of Faculty Athletics Committee

The NCAA limits the information that can be made public during an investigation, so Cunningham's hands were tied when faculty members inquired about what the response contains as well as the process of releasing the response.


Finally. unx gets to withhold information without the mis-application of FERPA or just outright lying.

"There are zero allegations of academic fraud (from the NCAA)," he said. The notice, he said, mentions "improper benefits" given to student-athletes, but never categorizes it as academic fraud.

So it's NOT an "academic scandal" after all , huh Bubba? Guess that makes it all on the "athletics side." When you're right , you're right. Lol.

...but the most important allegation (LOIC) will be the most contested by unc.

"But we've made all these reforms...just ask SACS. Uhhh , on second thought , don't. Nevermind. We're moving forward though. Go Heels!"

....the response will be redacted before being released to the public.

No sheet. #carolinaway

http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2015/08/noa-response-highlights-faculty-athletics-committee
 
Cheating Blue Ram@CheatingBlueRam

Anyone notice that nobody paid attention to my Shoe Man Brad tweets until he posted his "crossing the line" cry for help? Brad took the bait and swallowed the hook. It goes without saying, some people are their own worst enemies.

Jim Bergman ‏@JimBergz

@CheatingBlueRam B-Rad gets mad at you, Then someone impersonates Jay Smith, purgers them self to my publisher. Both use gmail.. Developing


 
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Mere days BEFORE unx is slated to present their case to the NCAA , the "flagship' (via "due diligence" lol) discovers new violations. Which sports? Sylvia (again!) and...wait for it...here it comes...men's soccer. Transparent attempt at delaying sanctions. Dirtiest. School. Ever.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...ns-to-ncaa-that-should-delay-infractions-case

Others...

http://carolinacommitment.unc.edu/updates/unc-chapel-hill-reports-new-information-to-ncaa/

http://www.scout.com/college/north-carolina/story/1574246-new-findings-likely-to-delay-ncaa-process

#carolinaway
 
They're doing what they've always done, DevilDJ. But, I think the 'flagship' is going down...and they know it.

OFC
 
They're doing what they've always done, DevilDJ. But, I think the 'flagship' is going down...and they know it.

Hard to disagree. Whatever sanctions unx will receive tptb there must believe they'll be significant...too significant to take the chance a quick ruling kills Roy's last best shot at another tainted title anyway. From the CBS link...


Roy's Daddy

Mark Fuhrman planting OJ's bloody glove was less orchestrated than this blatant attempt to delay imminent NCAA sanctions. First they plant "nebraskaheel" on IC with a rumor unc is falling on their sword and self-reporting "newly discovered" infractions (being he honest boy scouts they are). Then IC & their puppet station WRAL have a breaking story, with an impromptu live press conference with all their supporting stations lobbing Bubba Cunningham softball questions. Not a single journalist who isn't pro-unc on the "live" call in.

Here's the cliff note summary: unc will be top 5 pre-season men's basketball. Roy Williams is in his last year, his retirement mansion in Asheville completed construction and the powder blue, as defiant to the end as they are, think they can squeeze one more NC out before sanctions hit. Nobody give's a rat's ass about men's soccer and women's basketball has been DOA since the NOA was released. These new revelations mean nothing to the overall process, except to buy time. You couldn't find a more shameless group of liars if you scoured Congress & Wall Street with a fine tooth comb. The goal is to wait out the NCAA and hope they get blown away in their ongoing civil lawsuits or the Power 5 take them out of the picture.

Funny thing is, unc's team is soft and lacks the firepower to get past the 2nd round. Their banking on a marginal #6 seed team, over rated and undermanned to pull off something they don't have a snowball's chance in hell doing.

This will be fun to watch over time and it wouldn't surprise me to see Roy clutch his chest and drop dead on national TV this season. God help him if some Presbyterian fan yells "miss it" while a Tarheel is shooting a free throw...that will be the final straw that breaks that cheating sack of sh*t's back.

uncMeme

unc men's basketball is still playing Four Corners....unc simply needs to accept their punishment for cheating

Catsfaninva2

unc is now throwing their women's BB team under the bus to save their mens program. LMAO... this is the slowest train wreck I've ever seen.

jmgil

It is a Roy story. unc doesn't want it to be a Roy story.

pappazoc1

** Nicely Calculated .. Hope NCAA isn't DUMB enough to fall for this Cheap Trick !! Then .. again .. LOL...LOL

kymike3

this is straight garbage, they find new violations that keeps them eligible for this season?

Dblochesq

unc will continue to dump on non-revs to protect those cash cows. Shameful.

MickGruffSter

Nice that 2016 recruiting class should be solid. Hope the Tar Heels enjoy their last good team possibly ever this year.
 
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New information will delay unc’s ongoing NCAA infractions case

New info involves women’s basketball, men’s soccer

Not related to men’s basketball, football

New details likely to delay NCAA timeline

Four days before its deadline to respond to the NCAA's Notice of Allegations, unc-Chapel Hill on Friday announced that it had supplied the NCAA with details of additional violations that could delay by several months the conclusion of a long-running infractions case.

unc on Aug. 10 submitted to the NCAA details of potential improper academic assistance in women's basketball and recruiting violations in men's soccer. The timeline of the case has now been pushed back and it likely won't conclude until April 2016 at the earliest.

“I know today’s announcement will cause some to ask when all of this will end,” Bubba Cunningham, the unc athletic director, said in a statement the university released early Friday afternoon.

Cunningham later spoke with reporters on a teleconference in which he detailed how unc uncovered the new violations. The potential violations in women's basketball, he said, were consistent with the kind identified in the Notice of Allegations (NOA) that unc received in May.

The second allegation in the NOA focused on Jan Boxill, a former professor and women's basketball academic counselor. The NCAA Enforcement Staff alleged Boxill knowingly provided extra benefits in the form of impermissible academic help and special arrangements to women's basketball players.

Cunningham described the potential women's basketball violations that unc recently uncovered as “more of the same of what we've seen in the past.” He said, though, that it wasn't “a significant number” of women's basketball players who received improper academic assistance.

University officials discovered the potential violations, Cunningham said, while preparing for the public release of documents related to the NCAA investigation. Officials uncovered documents that were similar to those in the report that Kenneth Wainstein released last October.

Wainstein is the former federal prosecutor unc hired to investigate the origin and depth of no-show AFAM classes that he found spanned 18 years and involved 3,100 students – almost half of them athletes.

“And when we saw it,” Cunningham said of evidence suggesting additional violations involving Boxill and women's basketball players, “we presented that to the NCAA.”

The potential men's soccer recruiting violations that unc uncovered, meanwhile, are unrelated to the AFAM case. Even so, their discovery could lead to a significant delay in the conclusion of the case if the NCAA concludes that they are Level I or Level II violations.

If the NCAA deems the violations to rise to that level, then it would submit to unc an amended NOA. In that case, unc would receive another 90 days – its original 90-day window was set to end on Aug. 18 – to respond.

“I'm very disappointed in the timing,” Cunningham said. “I'm very disappointed (in) the impact it's going to have on the institution, the program and how it delays where we were. But I'm proud of the fact that people owned the mistakes when it happened.”

Cunningham said the university discovered the men’s soccer recruiting violations -- which spanned the past two years -- after one of the team’s coaches failed to correctly answer a question on a compliance test. That moment, Cunningham said, was when unc “realized the coaches misunderstood the rules, and created some violations.”

The shifting timeline of the case all but assures that unc's men's basketball team will not be affected by sanctions – such as a potential postseason ban – during the 2015-16 season. Still, though, the uncertainty that has negatively affected recruiting will continue to hang over the program until the case reaches a resolution.

Before Friday, there had been no indication of a potential delay in the case. unc appeared prepared to respond to the NOA by Aug. 18 – next Tuesday.

The Daily Tar Heel, the unc student newspaper, reported that Cunningham on Thursday met with members of the university's Faculty Athletics Committee and spoke of unc's upcoming response to the NOA. He didn't mention that unc had submitted new information to the NCAA.

Asked why he hadn't, Cunningham said he didn't receive word until Friday morning that the NCAA Committee on Infractions would allow the Enforcement Staff and unc to review the newly-uncovered information. The review means unc's response to the NOA has been postponed indefinitely.

Until Friday, it appeared likely that the case would conclude sometime early in 2016, perhaps in February if it followed the same timeline as unc's previous NCAA investigation that ended in 2012. Now, though, the case could endure through the summer of 2016.

Cunningham said he was “unsure” of when unc might now appear before the NCAA's Committee on Infractions, which will ultimately determine the university's penalties. If unc had responded to the NOA on Tuesday, it could have appeared before the committee as early as October.

Like everything else with the case, though, the timeline for that appearance has been pushed back.

“But I'm still hopeful,” Cunningham said, “that we can get through this portion of the investigation, receive the amended notice if that is what is required and still bring this to closure by the spring of '16.”

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article31097100.html


Highlighted the 2 passages for a reason. unx is , obviously , stalling. Not only are they stalling , they're doing it by throwing 2 non-revenue sports under the bus. But not only are they doing THAT , they won't even accuse either scapegoat of a substantial violation. WTF? NOT a "significant number of women's players?!" The "coaches misunderstood the rules?!" Heinous crimes , those. lol
 
Nothing specific to the scandal in the latest blog from unx alum Bob Lee. The "COMMENTS" section though...?


BOBLEE

Again… this was NOT a pink slip situation. The whole operation has been in a very bare bones staffing mode including no sales staff for quite some time; ergo there are no sponsors for the show. Art / I could try to get someone ourselves but, frankly, it isn’t worth it for me. I don’t feel right promoting unc Sports when I have “serious issues with the institution”. Last year was difficult enough and this year looks like more of the same…. “whistling passed the graveyard”.


DOUG

Drip, Drip, Drip. unc self reports WBB & Men’s Soccer violations to the NCAA that have occurred over the past two years. Albert is gonna be pissed. Sylvia is working on her Sgt. Schultz routine. Again!

BOBLEE

Oh My! Reboot… Reboot ….


BOBLEE

It’s not that at all. It really came down to I was tired of even pretending to be a washed-in-the-blood Tru Blue. The past five years have worn out what Tru-Blueness I ever had. It IS my alma mater and I have some good friends “over there” but The carolina Way crap had gotten really old even before Marvin tweeted. A pre-game show should have enthusiastic “us against them” cheerleaders ginning up the crowd.

BOBLEE

Thank you Betsy! It was a hoot and we have no regrets at all. It was our decision. I have become way too cynical of carolina athletics to do such a “homer” show. A show like that one should have guys who are knee-walking drunk on carolina Way wine and that is definitely NOT ME.


http://bobleesays.com/2015/08/14/by-god-woodrow-its-been-one-helluva/
 
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unc’s contrasting treatment of Williams, Hatchell draws attention

Men’s coach gets a contract extension; Sylvia Hatchell does not

Enrollments in fake classes much higher among football, men’s basketball

unc Athletic Director Bubba Cunningham disputes lack of support for women’s coach

unc-Chapel Hill has two Hall of Fame basketball coaches who each have at least one national championship on their resumes: Sylvia Hatchell and Roy Williams.

Hatchell is the second winningest women’s coach in NCAA history; Williams was the fastest men’s coach to 700 wins. Both have been coaching for more than 25 years and have nearly always taken their teams to the NCAA tournament.

But as the NCAA case involving serious allegations against both programs grinds toward likely sanctions, Williams, 65, has won a lucrative contract extension; Hatchell, 63, is without one.

unc officials aren’t explaining why two top-flight coaches would be treated differently. As a result, the university has attracted questions about whether it is sacrificing Hatchell and her program to spare the men’s basketball program from harsh NCAA sanctions. Neither coach has been accused of doing anything wrong.

Since the NCAA hit unc with allegations of five major infractions, including a lack of institutional control, Hatchell has seen her team take a heavy blow. Three recruits from a stellar 2013 recruiting season have left for other schools. One transferred days before the allegations arrived at unc; the other two in the following weeks. A fourth left a year ago, after a season in which Hatchell stepped away to undergo chemotherapy to combat leukemia. Hatchell so far has held onto this season’s recruiting class, which includes two high school All-Americans.

On Friday, unc Athletic Director Bubba Cunningham said more evidence emerged that a few more former women basketball players had received improper academic help. He said that information had been shared with the NCAA. This development is likely to push back a hearing on the NCAA’s allegations at least by two months.

On the men’s side, Williams continues to field an experienced team already touted as a favorite for the 2016 national championship. Only one player left – for the NBA, and not out of fear of a tournament ban. Top high school prospects, however, have shown concern about possible sanctions and have chosen other schools, including archrival Duke...

Cunningham’s announcement makes it more likely that the men’s team will finish the upcoming season before the NCAA decides penalties.

Football recruits have said coach Larry Fedora told them the NCAA won’t hurt his program, based on the advice of unc’s lawyers. Fedora has not discussed specifics, but said he felt “confident things were going to turn out good.”

Last month, Meghan Austin, a former player of Hatchell’s and now a coach herself, drew national attention to the differing perceptions of the men’s and women’s programs in a column published in The News & Observer. She claimed that unc is sacrificing Hatchell and her program to the NCAA to spare men’s basketball and football.

“With the NCAA allegations, I am trying to wrap my head around how the women’s basketball team has been made the scapegoat in all of this,” wrote Austin, the women’s basketball coach at Montreat College near Asheville. “Our program was not the only team in the report, yet we are the ones being talked about the most. Roy Williams and his program were in the report, and he got a contract extension. The football program was in the report, and its coaching staff was confident enough to tell recruits that they will not receive any repercussions from the NCAA investigation.”

Among those who tweeted the link to Austin’s column: Chamique Holdsclaw, a former University of Tennessee and WNBA star; and Nicole LaVoi, a University of Minnesota professor and advocate for women’s sports.

“The war on Women Coaches is real,” LaVoi tweeted. She later said in an email she knew little about the case.

In an interview last month, Cunningham declined to discuss the details of Hatchell’s contract situation. He typically does not comment on personnel matters. Her contract ends in 2018; Williams’ extension keeps him at unc until 2020.

“I have immense respect for Coach Hatchell and her career and the success that she’s had,” Cunningham said. “I’m delighted that she’s contracted through 2018. And as we do with all of our teams, I’ll review her situation, her team’s situation, at the end of (next) season.”

On Friday, he said he continued to have confidence in the program’s coaching staff.

Bringing the money

Men’s basketball and football are the money-making sports at unc and other top Division I schools. Men’s basketball feeds the coffers of the NCAA. The organization collected nearly a billion dollars in revenue last year, USA Today reported, nearly all of it from the “March Madness” tournament. The majority of the money goes back to the member schools.

Women’s sports typically lose money, but universities are required under the federal anti-discrimination Title IX law to carry them if they want to have men’s programs.

unc’s football and men’s basketball teams were the two highest in terms of enrollments in the fake classes within the African studies department, according to the most in-depth investigation into the scandal, which was led by former federal prosecutor Kenneth Wainstein. Over an 18-year period, more than 3,100 students enrolled in the fake classes; roughly half of them were athletes.

There were two types of bogus classes: lecture classes that never met, and independent studies that had no instruction. Football players accounted for 963 enrollments in the classes that were listed as lectures, which began in 1999, while men’s basketball accounted for 226. Football teams include roughly seven times as many athletes as basketball.

Men’s basketball had nearly double the 114 enrollments of the women’s basketball team.

The disparity is even greater in the independent studies, which began in 1993. Men’s basketball players were in these classes from the beginning, while the women don’t show up in significant numbers until 1998. By 1999, when the fake lecture classes were added to the scam, the men’s team had 57 independent studies enrollments, compared with 15 enrollments for the women. (Wainstein said at least half of all the independent studies offered had no instruction...)
 
The Boxill factor

The ‘scapegoat’ speculation comes at a time when unc is drafting its response to the NCAA’s enforcement division. unc could seek to pursue an agreement with the NCAA’s enforcement division on sanctions and penalties. Known as a summary disposition, it’s a way to avoid a lengthy hearing before the Committee on Infractions, a panel of athletic and academic officials who mete out punishment.

It’s up to the committee to accept such summary dispositions; it can reject them entirely and proceed to a hearing, or simply hit the universities with tougher penalties. Stuart Brown, an attorney who represents universities in infractions cases, said it’s unlikely the committee would accept a summary disposition, given the severity of the case and the widespread public interest in the outcome.

Neither the NCAA nor unc is talking about the specifics of the case.

Some unc athletics advocates say women’s basketball faces the biggest hit. Its former longtime academic counselor, Jan Boxill, was directly involved in the long-running academic fraud.

One of the NCAA’s allegations specifically cites her efforts to keep women’s basketball players academically eligible.

Wainstein found that the fraud began in 1993 when Deborah Crowder, then an administrative manager for the African studies department, started creating classes that had no instruction and only required a paper that she would then give a high grade. She was not a faculty member. She launched the fake classes after academic counselors for the athletes complained to her about independent studies that were too rigorous, Wainstein reported.

The counselors were not identified, but Crowder was close friends with Burgess McSwain, the men’s basketball academic counselor. Crowder was also a huge fan of men’s basketball and was sometimes so distraught about a loss that she would miss work the next day. McSwain died in 2004.

Multiple sports

Boxill’s involvement in the scandal is deep. Her email correspondence shows she arranged for women’s basketball players to be enrolled in the classes, suggested grades in one instance and in five instances wrote parts of athletes’ papers. She was also a philosophy instructor and provided suspect grades for athletes with some of her classes, the investigation found.

Boxill, former director of the Parr Center for Ethics, was elected faculty leader in 2011, shortly before the fake classes were discovered.

One unc supporter, Art Chansky, who has written several books about the Tar Heel basketball team’s success on the court, wrote last month that Hatchell should “go gracefully” after the upcoming season, and that her program would take the hardest hit from the NCAA.

That drew criticism from Mary Willingham, the learning specialist for athletes who blew the whistle on the fake classes, and unc history professor Jay Smith. In their book “Cheated,” they wrote that enrollment records show the cheating began to accommodate men’s basketball, and continued when Williams became coach.

Boxill’s efforts to assist women’s basketball players by writing parts of papers and seeking a grade boost is a specific extra benefits allegation within the NCAA’s report. But more than 20 exhibits cited in another allegation – that athletes in several sports received impermissible benefits in the form of special arrangements to enter the classes – cite Boxill as well.

Three of the exhibits appear to be an email discussion between Boxill, Wayne Walden, the men’s basketball counselor who succeeded McSwain, and Janet Huffstetler, a tutor for the men’s basketball team, over grading in one of Boxill’s philosophy courses.

“I have re-examined the quizzes and have changed the grades – only slightly in two cases,” Boxill wrote in one of the emails, dated July 11, 2005.

That has nothing to do with athletes being given “special arrangements” to Crowder’s fake classes, which is the thrust of that allegation, but it is included there, instead of with the allegation citing Boxill’s misconduct...
 
Trusted Boxill

All three sports are identified in two major allegations: a lack of institutional control and the acceptance of impermissible benefits.

Football might face a less harsh sanction because the NCAA has already penalized the program in a previous investigation that determined agents and their runners had handed out cash and other perks to players, and that a tutor had provided impermissible help on some athletes’ papers.

The NCAA vacated 16 wins going back to 2008, fined unc and banned the university from postseason play for the 2012 season. Coach Butch Davis was fired, even though unc could not pin any impropriety on him, and the athletic director, Dick Baddour, retired early.

Hatchell became the women’s coach in 1986. She told investigators she knew her players were taking a lot of classes within the African studies department, but she thought they were in classes that actually met. She also said she thought Crowder, the administrative manager who offered the fake classes, was a faculty member.

Hatchell said she had great trust in Boxill, a former women’s basketball coach for the University of Tampa who provided color commentary for radio broadcasts of the unc women’s basketball games.

Williams was an assistant coach at unc under Dean Smith, then left in 1988 to coach at Kansas. He returned to unc in 2003 and brought academic counselor Walden with him.

Unlike Hatchell, Williams told Wainstein he saw some things he didn’t like. He noticed that his team had many African studies majors, and they were taking a lot of independent studies. He said he knew one, Rashad McCants, took “three or four” independent studies in the spring 2005 semester, when the team won a national championship.

McCants told ESPN he had failed algebra and psychology courses in the Fall 2004 semester, jeopardizing his eligibility. He took nothing but fake classes the following semester, his transcript showed, and made the dean’s list. Several of his teammates had also enrolled in fake classes that semester, Wainstein reported.

In a recent interview for ESPN and Yahoo Sports, Williams spoke of being credited for moving his players away from the classes. Williams did not bring his concerns to the NCAA, unc academic officials or the athletic department’s compliance staff.

Williams didn’t speak publicly of his concerns until Wainstein’s report was released in October, three years after the scandal surfaced.

‘No support’

In an interview last month, Austin said she came up with the column earlier this summer while working at Hatchell’s basketball camp. Austin said she and other former players discussed how to show support for Hatchell and her program.

“Some of us former players, we kind of sat down this summer and we were talking about how it didn’t sit right with us that it seems like there’s so many teams that were involved in the (bogus class) situation but women’s basketball was the one that people were pinpointing,” Austin said.

Austin said she hoped that other former players, whom she declined to name, would be willing to speak out and share their frustration – and their support for Hatchell. Austin said she would encourage them to contact The N&O. None have.

Nonetheless, Austin said the most meaningful support for Hatchell would come from the unc administration.

“There’s no support for Coach Hatchell at all,” Austin said. “And a lot of us have worked in college athletics before, and we know how important it is to have the support of your bosses.” Austin could not be reached Friday for comment after Cunningham’s press conference.

Cunningham said last month he disagreed with the characterization that Hatchell hasn’t received support. He noted that Hatchell is under contract for three more seasons and that “she’s had a great career (and) a lot of success.”

“And I’d expect that success into the future,” he said.

Hatchell declined to comment for this story. She has retained a prominent lawyer, Wade Smith of Raleigh, who also declined comment.


http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/unc-scandal/article31148684.html
 
unc uncovers more potential violations in academic scandal

North carolina uncovered possible additional NCAA violations in women's basketball and men's soccer while preparing the response to its long-running academic scandal, the school announced Friday.

Its response to the NCAA, due next week, will be delayed. The NCAA will set a date after a review of the new information, school officials said.

During a 20-minute conference call with reporters, athletic director Bubba Cunningham twice referred to the school's ongoing effort to "earn back trust."

"As painful as it is, it's part of the carolina culture that we want to know what happened, we want to understand it, we want to fix it," he said.

Cunningham said the new information in women's basketball was discovered when officials prepared to release emails from former U.S. Justice Department official Kenneth Wainstein's eight-month investigation. In their review of up to 6 million pages of information, they uncovered more examples of possible improper academic assistance to players.

They also discovered potential recruiting violations over two years in men's soccer that were unrelated to the current NCAA probe.

"I'm very disappointed in the timing. I'm very disappointed in the impact it's going to have on the institution, on the program, and how it delays where we were," Cunningham said. "But I'm proud of the fact that people owned up to the mistakes that happened."

He said those possible violations came to light when the school administered a compliance test to its men's soccer coaches and one of them got a question wrong.

The AD didn't identify the coach and declined to disclose additional details because the investigation is ongoing.

"We came to understand the coaches misunderstood the rules, and we immediately turned that in," Cunningham said.

Under NCAA procedures, if those are determined to be Level I or II violations, the notice of allegations must be amended to include them. The school would then have 90 days from the day it receives the amended notice to respond, Cunningham said.

It is unclear exactly when the new possible violations were discovered. The school says they were reported to the NCAA's committee on infractions on Aug. 10.

Cunningham said he still hopes the investigation will be resolved by spring 2016.

The NCAA's notice of allegations included five charges, outlining a lack of institutional control and four other potential Level I violations, which are described as a "severe breach of conduct."

The NCAA regarded issues related to academic irregularities in the formerly named African and Afro-American Studies (AFAM) department as potential improper benefits, saying athletes received "special arrangements" such as access to courses and other assistance generally unavailable to nonathletes.

The lack of institutional control focused on the AFAM department and the academic support program for athletes, including the conduct of a women's basketball adviser for providing too much help on assignments. Without getting too specific, Cunningham described the new information in women's basketball as "more of the same."

No coaches were charged by the NCAA, and when asked about the possibility of coaching changes, Cunningham called it "speculative."

"But I will say I have a lot of confidence in our coaching staff," he added.

The academic investigation grew out of a 2010 investigation into the football program; in that case, the committee issued sanctions in March 2012, about nine months after the notice of allegations arrived.

"We are fully cooperating with the NCAA and continue to work with them to bring closure to this long, arduous process," Cunningham said.



The vid is the story here....


"The mushroom cloud of what's been going on with this program."

"Even more layers."

"The longer this goes on this worse it seems to get."

"Perception-wise , it's a killer."

"NC once a bastion of doing everything right now seems to be this sort of renegade program where every sport has something hitting it."

"They're looking at a major lack of institutional control."

"It could get very messy."

"When they (unc) sit in someone's family room these questions are gonna come up and right now they don't have a solid answer."


http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...-potentially-more-violations-academic-scandal
 
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I do not care if the new unc reporting is a dumb thing to do or a smart thing to do. My point is : Was it the right thing to do?


I had to laugh at the IC crowd ranting about how dumb their school is for continuing to report stuff as well as letting this mess drag out forever. I don't blame them for being mad. They are also mad because PP knows more about what is going on at their school than all the administrators and lawyers. In my opinion, I disagree but I would call it a tie.

My today's information for lurking heels : When unc reports or discovers a NO-NO violation skeleton, that skeleton has already been seen by outsiders and they are waiting to see how unc handles their mess. Even some of your big dogs know that Roy Williams has skeletons that are known on the outside. Your best hope is that men and women of integrity step up and end this fiasco. I will close with this ....#roywilliamsmatters
 
New unc Allegations Fuel Gender Bias Concerns

And Sylvia Hatchell has a powerful new ally.

As we expected, there is more talk now about the differences between how unc is treating men's and women's basketball coaches Roy Williams and Sylvia Hatchell after the new scandal revelations.


The N&O has an article up which goes into this extensively, including the introduction of a new phrase, "the War On Women Coaches Is Real."

This comes from Nichole LaVoi, a professor at Minnesota. She subsequently said she didn't know much about the case.

There is a lot of interesting stuff here but nothing more so than the last two lines:

"Hatchell declined to comment for this story. She has retained a prominent lawyer, Wade Smith of Raleigh, who also declined comment."

Duke fans will recall his name from the lacrosse case. The man is an outstanding attorney. He's also very expensive. So why has she retained him?


There was a lot of curiosity about unc's move to add allegations, which only extends the whole situation, but at least two things to consider: 1) it may just have been the right (or necessary) thing to do, and 2), unless we're mistaken, it impossible to penalize unc before next season's NCAA tournament, where unc is seen as an early favorite.


http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/2015/8/15/9158921/new-unc-allegations-fuel-gender-bias-concerns
 
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Not reading back through the 9+ pages of on this thread, but something that jumped out at me today from the N&O article (15AUG2015, Kane & Carter)...was the "Roll Call" graphic on Page 12A which had the following information:

1993-2011 Enrollments - Suspect Independent Studies Course
Football = 360
Men's Basketball = 110
Women's Basketball = 34

1999-2011 Enrollments - Suspect Lecture Classes that Did Not Meet
Football = 963
Men's Basketball = 226
Women's Basketball = 114

So, if we compare MBB and WBB these teams have roughly the same number of players and over the same period should have cheated at about the same rate... but what do we see from this data? We see that for independent studies classes that MBB were enrolling in suspect independent studies classes at 3.2 times the rate of WBB players and for lecture classes that didn't meet at almost 2.0 times the rate of WBB classes. Now how you can take an approach to hang WBB out to dry and let MBB skate is just amazing.

In the narrative of the article it mentioned that FB is about seven times as large as BB for the number of athletes, so if we normalize the FB data by dividing the numbers by seven we see an equivalency of about 51 and 137, respectively for independent studies and fake lecture classes.... not to indifferent than WBB. For FB and MBB we see MBB taking advantage of these classes at 2.15 times the rate for independent studies and 1.64 times the rate for no-show fake lecture classes.

I look at this and what I see is MBB should be at the "front of the line" for sanctions and penalties for having disproportionately cheated relative to their counterparts in FB and WBB in taking advantage of these suspect classes based on enrollments.
 
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Today's Points:

1 If your are innocent do you want a delay in due process?
2 If you are a law firm do you want your billings to end?
3 Do you get mad if your game plan is exposed before you can put it in action?
4 How long would it take to go thru thousands of e-mails if you were coming clean as opposed to covering up?

5 FACTS...A very large % of the players in 2005 were technically ineligible. unc knows. ROY knows. NCAA knows. KANE knows .....and IC will know much later. IC please keep clinging to the fact that Baddour said that unc would not get LOIC and that unc was a model of co-operation with the ncaa and a manual should be made for use by other schools. Have a blessed day.
 
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Anyone have the Hatchell under the bus photoshop?

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Anyone have the Hatchell under the bus photoshop?

Saw it a month ago on the board, and want to send it to some friends. Please put it in a post if you have it. It had Bubba throwing her under a bus driven by Roy....hilarious.

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That's it...thanks.

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That's one of my favorites. Lol.

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What a great video! Kudos to whomever created it!

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it was "old as dirt devil" from devil's illustrated. guy does some really great work
 
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In Barry Jacob's recent interview with Carol Folt , it was reported...


Folt isn’t ready to discuss the university’s response to the NCAA charges, or to speculate about possible punishments. A member of the NCAA Division I Board of Directors while at Dartmouth College, she characterizes college sports’ governing entity as an “institution under flux,” perhaps less predictable than usual as it reinvents its processes under intense criticism and scrutiny.

Nor does she concede, as has been widely reported, that football coach Larry Fedora, men’s basketball coach Roy Williams, or anyone else at unc reassured prospective student-athletes regarding the NCAA’s intentions.

“I don’t know what they really said, and I doubt that you’ve been sitting in with the students,” Folt cautions an interviewer. “I feel that very strongly. We get reported that a lot of things are said. Most of the time when I try to figure it out, they weren’t said in that tone or context.”


http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article30333309.html


Seems Coach Papuchis didn't read the article...


On the potential NCAA issues at unc:

"They said it wouldn't affect them any and I believe coach (John Papuchis) and they're very truthful with me, so I believe them."


http://northcarolina.247sports.com/Bolt/QA-with-2016-UNC-commit-Jonathan-Smith-38750414
 
From 2010. Greg Barnes blathering on about how unx prides itself on academic integrity yada yada yada. 4+ years down the road and we've seen EXACTLY how the "flagship" feels about academics. Scapegoating tutors , student-athletes , whistleblowers , professors...anyone who has anything to do with the "academic side" has been thrown under the bus to save athletics. IOW , unx doesn't give 2 sheets about academic integrity. #carolinaway...

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc/video/8197150/
 
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This is a work of photoshop brilliance. And I agree, UNC mistreating women's bball coach Sylvia Hatchell.


 
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