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2023 Commits

Roach-Whitehead-Filipowski-Lively seem to be the 4 obvious starters for next season. Not hopeful on Keels or Moore coming back (or Griffin).

Can Mark Mitchell effectively play the 3? Of the limited footage I've seen of him, it looks like he plays more on the inside.
 
For the last time Hurt came in as a small forward don’t know where your getting pf from. Your the one saying hold expectations on flip I simply said he’s a top twenty recruit and listed in the top twenty of the draft . As it appears you look him up more then I do so it’s you with the love affair with him. Your the one arguing he’s a stretch four which he isn’t . He’s a modern day big who doesn’t have the quickness to guard on the perimeter but can shoot the three. Once again this all started because you said he wasn’t a top twenty prospect in the draft .
He’s a stretch 4, as was hurt. Interesting you think Hurt came in to play the 3. Hell he played the 5 in small ball settings, which Flip will as well.
 
Roach-Whitehead-Filipowski-Lively seem to be the 4 obvious starters for next season. Not hopeful on Keels or Moore coming back (or Griffin).

Can Mark Mitchell effectively play the 3? Of the limited footage I've seen of him, it looks like he plays more on the inside.
He’s more of a pf but when him and Whitehead squared off it was a defensive battle . If keels goes which I’m sure he is look for Foster to come.
 
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He’s a stretch 4, as was hurt. Interesting you think Hurt came in to play the 3. He’ll be played the 5 in small ball settings, which Flip will as well.
Man I really don’t care anymore. You have your opinion I have mine . But on hurt he was brought in to play sf and went to the league as a small forward. He simply can not guard ANYBODY ! Which is why he’s not in the league . That and really has no post moves .
 
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Man I really don’t care anymore. You have your opinion I have mine . But on hurt he was brought in to play sf and went to the league as a small forward. He simply can not guard ANYBODY ! Which is why he’s not in the league . That and really has no post moves .
He was brought in as a stretch 4, and left the same. He sucks on D, I never said otherwise. You keep doing you: taking subjective online rankings and postings as fact. You’re going to be disappointed. Just give these guys a chance instead of saying key games are over in the first half my man 😉.
 
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No I predicted Duke was a sweet 16 team all season better go back and check every post! What prediction did I make here. Saying they need to live up to their ranking is a statement not a prediction!
Look on page two of the Duke VT game thread about 3/4 of the way down and tell me again you didn’t say we wouldn’t make it out of the first weekend.
 
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He was brought in as a stretch 4, and left the same. He sucks on D, I never said otherwise. You keep doing you: taking subjective online rankings and postings as fact. You’re going to be disappointed. Just give these guys a chance instead of saying key games are over in the first half my man 😉.
Man get a grip on life and leave this subject alone . Hurt was never a stretch four he said so himself so did his coach he would play the three. When you think stretch four you think Durant and Ingram players at 6’9” or better that can go from point guard to pf , can bring the ball up court , attack from the perimeter pull up hit a three or drive inside . That’s a stretch four . I don’t go off rankings I said in the mock draft . I never go off high school rankings and I merely said for the last time,” for Jon this season the recruits need to live up to their rankings because he didn’t need his first season to be like 20-21 . Your the one who brought up what his coach said and how he’s a stretch four, and how he can’t move latterly . Not me and you still haven’t proved how the dude is a stretch four because you say he’s like hurt and shoots the three. Or because his coach says he’s a pf . For the last time All I said was he was ranked in the top twenty in some mock drafts your the one who keeps going to high school rankings not me . I simply say he’s a center you say he’s a stretch four .both opinions nothing locked in stone . End of debate
 
This is for the entire board! I wasn’t the only one between games, during the season or during games that said some crazy crap on the heat of the game . The issue most have with me is I’m here the next day so I don’t run and hide like some that do the exact same thing been on this board for 12 plus years . Original posters know me some might not care for me that’s cool but some of you new posters when you call people out better call out every one not just me because I can admit when I’m wrong but don’t think I back down run and hide or jump to another board that ain’t me .
 
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Man get a grip on life and leave this subject alone . Hurt was never a stretch four he said so himself so did his coach he would play the three. When you think stretch four you think Durant and Ingram players at 6’9” or better that can go from point guard to pf , can bring the ball up court , attack from the perimeter pull up hit a three or drive inside . That’s a stretch four . I don’t go off rankings I said in the mock draft . I never go off high school rankings and I merely said for the last time,” for Jon this season the recruits need to live up to their rankings because he didn’t need his first season to be like 20-21 . Your the one who brought up what his coach said and how he’s a stretch four, and how he can’t move latterly . Not me and you still haven’t proved how the dude is a stretch four because you say he’s like hurt and shoots the three. Or because his coach says he’s a pf . For the last time All I said was he was ranked in the top twenty in some mock drafts your the one who keeps going to high school rankings not me . I simply say he’s a center you say he’s a stretch four .both opinions nothing locked in stone . End of debate
No debate to begin with as every point you’ve made, aside from hurt being slow and a poor defender, are inaccurate. Hurt was a 4/stretch forward at Duke. Flip is a bigger stretch 4. Hell his coach confirmed it. Both played/will play “5” in small ball situations.

And telling me to get a grip? Funny coming from the guy who has epic meltdowns in-game. I can’t wait to see you flip (no pun intended) when Flip isn’t manning the C position on a regular basis.


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No debate to begin with as every point you’ve made, aside from hurt being slow and a poor defender, are inaccurate. Hurt was a 4/stretch forward at Duke. Flip is a bigger stretch 4. Hell his coach confirmed it. Both played/will play “5” in small ball situations.

And telling me to get a grip? Funny coming from the guy who has epic meltdowns in-game. I can’t wait to see you flip (no pun intended) when Flip isn’t manning the C position on a regular basis.


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I’m gonna tell you this one time and one time only !! Hurt was a sf coming out of high school was never going to be a stretch four .He ended up being simply a shooter period . Second I’m not going to have a melt down but if you are so in tuned to reading my post read this . You can play key board coach , keep coming for me on a basket ball board but if you would like to hash this out man to man , face to face I’ll buy you a plain ticket or we can meet in Durham so we can talk like men on the subject outside of that you go your way I’ll go mine !!! This isn’t a meltdown it’s my word !
 
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I don't understand what the fuss is about... The NBA and Coach Krzyzewski have emphasized "positionless" basketball.

You need a defensive Center in the mold of Mark Williams and Lively. Someone to prevent the opponent from running a layups line.

I believe 99% of teams are better off using a Point Guard who can break any press. A player who emphasizes setting up his teammates and stopping the other team's penetration. Duke was better when the team played Roach more.

The other positions don't really matter. When I coached, I wanted the quickest team possible. I told the players that their "position " was determined by the biggest player you could guard. Using that theory, Hurt and Filipowski are both Power Forwards as they are too slow to guard small forwards, and not strong enough to guard Centers
 
I’m gonna tell you this one time and one time only !! Hurt was a sf coming out of high school was never going to be a stretch five he ended up being simply a shooter period . Second I’m not going to have a melt down but if you are so in tuned to reading my post read this . You can play key board coach , keep coming for me on a basket ball board but if you would like to hash this out man to man , face to face I’ll buy you a plain ticket or we can meet in Durham so we can talk like men on the subject outside of that you go your way I’ll go mine !!! This isn’t a meltdown it’s my word !
Wow now hurt wasnt a stretch 5? You mean a stretch 4, right? Dude, I’m not meeting you anywhere - I don’t need “friends”. If we happen to be in Durham for a game then sure, drinks it is lol.

I am not playing keyboard coach, I’m helping set the record straight. It’s scary to see some fans looking incorrectly at these recruits. No wonder some beat them up so bad! Just take it easy on Kyle - he won’t be a primary 5, so try to temper your expectations early. He’s a good player but has a lot of work to do. He’s a stretch 4 who can play inside some too, but he’s not overly long or fast so he may struggle some in ACC play. He may need a couple years to figure it out.

I am done here. We’ve killed enough brain cells with this.



 
I don't understand what the fuss is about... The NBA and Coach Krzyzewski have emphasized "positionless" basketball.

You need a defensive Center in the mold of Mark Williams and Lively. Someone to prevent the opponent from running a layups line.

I believe 99% of teams are better off using a Point Guard who can break any press. A player who emphasizes setting up his teammates and stopping the other team's penetration. Duke was better when the team played Roach more.

The other positions don't really matter. When I coached, I wanted the quickest team possible. I told the players that their "position " was determined by the biggest player you could guard. Using that theory, Hurt and Filipowski are both Power Forwards as they are too slow to guard small forwards, and not strong enough to guard Centers
Flip I think is strong enough my point was simply he’s listed as a center or pf/c not a stretch four. The remark I made was that he was showing up in some mock drafts as a top twenty prospect that’s all. Then it went side ways . I do not care if he plays pf or Center but IMO , after watching him he isn’t a stretch four he’s a big man that can shoot . That’s it . Then post started popping up about what I said in games ( half drunk ) people wanna quote where I said we would make it out the round of 32 and shit like that off one post but can reference where I stated this Duke team was a sweet 16 team all season. Don’t really care I’m over it . Kid will play in the front court period .
 
Wow now hurt wasnt a stretch 5? You mean a stretch 4, right? Dude, I’m not meeting you anywhere - I don’t need “friends”. If we happen to be in Durham for a game then sure, drinks it is lol.

I am not playing keyboard coach, I’m helping set the record straight. It’s scary to see some fans looking incorrectly at these recruits. No wonder some beat them up so bad! Just take it easy on Kyle - he won’t be a primary 5, so try to temper your expectations early. He’s a good player but has a lot of work to do. He’s a stretch 4 who can play inside some too, but he’s not overly long or fast so he may struggle some in ACC play. He may need a couple years to figure it out.

I am done here. We’ve killed enough brain cells with this.



Dude one thing I’ve never done is beat up on any recruit still don’t know where your getting that from. Still don’t know where you think I said he’ll play center just because I said he’s a center. For the last time all I said was some mock drafts have him in the top twenty and then you started your debate period . I fixed it . He wasn’t look at the pro typical stretch four they can play all over the court . Hurt could only shoot. Could hardly drive, couldn’t defend , couldn’t control a fast break stayed on the perimeter. Not a stretch four. Paolo is a stretch four .
 
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Dude one thing I’ve never done is beat up on any recruit still don’t know where your getting that from. Still don’t know where you think I said he’ll play center just because I said he’s a center. For the last time all I said was some mock drafts have him in the top twenty and then you started your debate period . I fixed it . He wasn’t look at the pro typical stretch four they can play all over the court . Hurt could only shoot. Could hardly drive, couldn’t defend , couldn’t control a fast break stayed on the perimeter. Not a stretch four. Paolo is a stretch four .
I've enjoyed your posts. I didn't read all of this thread. I haven't seen Filipowski in the last eight months. Good news if he can guard Centers. Lots, probably most, were predicting that Duke would not advance to the Sweet 16
 
Ok. Let’s say for the sake of argument the starting lineup is Lively, Flip at the pf spot ( which I have no issue with he’s a big), Mitchell, Whitehead and Roach. Foster may come . That still leaves Duke needing another big and atleast a sg just to practice. Depending on who Duke can get I think Flip comes off the bench. Just out of need. I will also say for his shooting however I’m not sold he shoots it as well his first season in college as he did in high school meaning IMO I would like to see him do damage in the paint so that he will be left open more to take his shots. I also agree he’s not blowing by anybody .
 
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Someone posted on Duke Basketball Report that they were returning. I will look for the link.
 
I saw it was an insider report. I hope that's not true. I'd heard otherwise. They always get their players back though. When you don't have to go to class I guess playing is easier.
I've not seen his transcript, but I believe that I read that Bacot made Academic All American. He's certainly much smarter on the court than he was as a freshman. Editing to say that I looked it up, and it was Academic All ACC, not All American
 
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Oh good. They are still deciding. If they all come back, our 18 year olds are not beating them. We couldn't even win the last 2 with Banchero and Williams.
 
We should be. He's my favorite non Duke player at the moment. He would eat Lively and Flip up. (he does like to eat). He is like Brand/Larry Johnson in the low block. He should be an AA next year. But yeah, if he lost 15 pounds he might be POY.
 
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We should be. He's my favorite non Duke player at the moment. He would eat Lively and Flip up. (he does like to eat). He is like Brand/Larry Johnson in the low block. He should be an AA next year. But yeah, if he lost 15 pounds he might be POY.
That he does, ha
 
Dude, he needs to lose at least 30lbs. And in the Duke sports facilities with our training staff he could get into terrific shape. I just don't think we see him at Duke.
 
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Either way, we need experienced transfers on this team next year. I think we need two guys in the backcourt and a couple big fellas down low. I'm not ready to be putting it all in the hands of Flip and Lively. Reeves and Borden are not the guys to be backing them up. Could Mark Mitchell be better than we think in this first year? I've seen him listed as a SF/PF. I know he's grown an inch and added some weight in the last year. So maybe he plays both positions next year? God, this would all be solved if Mark would just freaking come back.
 
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This team needs contributors not just practice bodies. They are freshman so fouls are going to pile up . Reeves is redshirting so he’ll only play in practice.
 
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