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I was asking for an explanation dipsh!t. You don’t deny it, y’all have nothing except that Trump hurts your feelings.
I'm sorry your feelings are so hurt that I'm calling you on what you're actually doing. Spolier: It ain't "asking for an explanation."

You're already eliminating Jan 6th. What else? Can't mention his impeachments? Or his tax cuts to the rich? Or his withdrawing from the Paris Accord? Or his mishandling of Covid? Or how he has undermined confidence in SCOTUS, elections, and other institutions? How he appointed incompetent Cabinet members? The sheer number of lies?

Other than all that, you mean? Yeah, it's easy to claim people have nothing when you ignore or disqualify all their actual reasons. Now tell me why you object to VP Harris, but without using the letters e, s, or t. 🤣
 
@dukesince91 simply got out ahead of @SDevada because he knew that she couldn't give a true doomsday example without mentioning January 6th. She probably has a shrine of news headlines regarding the viking led insurrection underneath a banner that says, 'Never Forget'.

And of course @dukesince91 eliminated January 6th from being an example. It happened after the election. So it couldn't be an example.
 
I'm sorry your feelings are so hurt that I'm calling you on what you're actually doing. Spolier: It ain't "asking for an explanation."

You're already eliminating Jan 6th. What else? Can't mention his impeachments? Or his tax cuts to the rich? Or his withdrawing from the Paris Accord? Or his mishandling of Covid? Or how he has undermined confidence in SCOTUS, elections, and other institutions? How he appointed incompetent Cabinet members? The sheer number of lies?

Other than all that, you mean? Yeah, it's easy to claim people have nothing when you ignore or disqualify all their actual reasons. Now tell me why you object to VP Harris, but without using the letters e, s, or t. 🤣
I see why you like Kumala so much. You actually understand her word salad, it makes about as much sense as yours.
 
So any ideas of why building the wall along the border is all of a sudden not a racist vanity project but a good use of taxpayer dollars?
 
So any ideas of why building the wall along the border is all of a sudden not a racist vanity project but a good use of taxpayer dollars?
The migrant crisis is the driving force in many black Americans turning on the democrats. With the number of states passing laws to remove non citizens from the voter rolls, the democrats now see a benefit to not turning their backs on black Americans. Something about housing illegals in luxury hotels, giving them debit cards, cell phones and clothes, really isn't sitting well in the black communities.
 
Ahhh yes, Steve, a down the middle producer of the RACHEL MADOW SHOW, doing Harris’s dirty work for her with some mental gymnastics word salad. All this to say, she now supports and will fund a racist border wall. She’s really tough on crime, as the border czar, so it makes sense she wants a wall to be built.
 
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I know about every right wing person has been picking on Kamala for her comments about going to work on Day One to fix the issues/problems we face. It's so basic but true that she's been there for almost four years, and is part of the administration that has not 'fixed' these issues.

How dumb are you to roar in approval when this windbag says these things. The left is so brazen, and their followers so stupid.
 
I know about every right wing person has been picking on Kamala for her comments about going to work on Day One to fix the issues/problems we face. It's so basic but true that she's been there for almost four years, and is part of the administration that has not 'fixed' these issues.

How dumb are you to roar in approval when this windbag says these things. The left is so brazen, and their followers so stupid.
But they want the things she says to be true. Isn’t everyone entitled to their own truth?
Not only have they not fixed the issues, they created them in the first place especially inflation and the border fiasco. Although the border looks great to them. It doesn’t matter how disastrous your policies are, you can just import more sheep.
 
I haven't read or watched MSNBC in some time until that article. It provides context around VP Harris' alleged "support" for a border wall. Generally speaking, MSNBC and its dumber cousin Fox News don't lie about numbers and facts; they manipulate things around the facts. I'd be interested in a conservative rebuttal of what it says, but I suspect they'll decline to read it, dismiss it, and keep claiming VP Harris supports a border wall for the next 8 years, through both of her terms in the White House.
 
Ahhh yes, Steve, a down the middle producer of the RACHEL MADOW SHOW, doing Harris’s dirty work for her with some mental gymnastics word salad. All this to say, she now supports and will fund a racist border wall. She’s really tough on crime, as the border czar, so it makes sense she wants a wall to be built.
Did you read the article?
 
Ahhh yes, Steve, a down the middle producer of the RACHEL MADOW SHOW, doing Harris’s dirty work for her with some mental gymnastics word salad. All this to say, she now supports and will fund a racist border wall. She’s really tough on crime, as the border czar, so it makes sense she wants a wall to be built.
One more point of correction. Harris was never the “border czar,” or put in charge of border security or halting illegal border crossings, as former President Donald Trump, Republicans and even the occasional media outlet have claimed. Instead, she was tasked in March 2021 with tackling the “root causes” of migration from the Northern Triangle and pushing its leaders — along with Mexico’s — to enforce immigration laws.
 
Did you read the article?
Sure did. Thought it was a weak sauce attempt to spin this as her efforts at bipartisanship without just owning it. Placing blame back on the other side. It was a partisan piece written by a partisan producer doing his job.
 
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One more point of correction. Harris was never the “border czar,” or put in charge of border security or halting illegal border crossings, as former President Donald Trump, Republicans and even the occasional media outlet have claimed. Instead, she was tasked in March 2021 with tackling the “root causes” of migration from the Northern Triangle and pushing its leaders — along with Mexico’s — to enforce immigration laws.
The “ root causes” are they live in poor, corrupt sh holes. How long did it take for Kamala to put the pieces together?
Our govt’s primary job is to protect its people. Properly vetting those entering our country is a primary function; helping those in other countries is secondary if not a luxury that we can’t achieve or afford
 
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The root cause of the current migrant crisis was this administration taking over power. Announcing immediately that they were ending the remain in Mexico policy, returning to catch and release and put a freeze on deportations. Remember when it began and thousands and thousands of people were illegally entering our country, the MSM would send reporters to areas that weren't being overrun by migrants so they could show us that the whole idea of a migrant crisis was just a republican boogeyman? Then they acknowledged it was a crisis and blamed in on Trump. Now they just don't care. Oregon says they are going to give illegal immigrants $30,000 to buy a house. California says, hold my beer Oregon, we're going to give them $150,000. What a kick in the balls to hard working low and lower middle class Americans.
 
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One more point of correction. Harris was never the “border czar,” or put in charge of border security or halting illegal border crossings, as former President Donald Trump, Republicans and even the occasional media outlet have claimed. Instead, she was tasked in March 2021 with tackling the “root causes” of migration from the Northern Triangle and pushing its leaders — along with Mexico’s — to enforce immigration laws.
Problem with this narrative, and one the msm has been working overtime to erase articles from 2021-23 in which they repeatedly called her the border czar, is not the term border czar, but the fact that in March of 2021, Biden tasked her with this role, and since then we’ve had record numbers of illegals pouring across our borders. Check out what is going on in Colorado right now as just the latest example. The point continues to be two fold- 1. If she was so good at this why was it so disastrous? And 2. She can blame Trump and the other side till the cows come home, but the point remains true, their administration reversed all of his border policies on day one, via executive action, and now are crying that the other side is the problem. They created the problem. They take zero responsibility for creating the problem but yet tell you they’ll fix it on day one. It’s a load of horse manure and people aren’t buying it. You can try and cover it up with as much joy and joyfulness as you want, but it’s putting lipstick on a 10-15M lb pig.
 
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Sure did. Thought it was a weak sauce attempt to spin this as her efforts at bipartisanship without just owning it. Placing blame back on the other side. It was a partisan piece written by a partisan producer doing his job.
Where's the lie?
 
The root cause of the current migrant crisis was this administration taking over power. Announcing immediately that they were ending the remain in Mexico policy, returning to catch and release and put a freeze on deportations. Remember when it began and thousands and thousands of people were illegally entering our country, the MSM would send reporters to areas that weren't being overrun by migrants so they could show us that the whole idea of a migrant crisis was just a republican boogeyman? Then they acknowledged it was a crisis and blamed in on Trump. Now they just don't care. Oregon says they are going to give illegal immigrants $30,000 to buy a house. California says, hold my beer Oregon, we're going to give them $150,000. What a kick in the balls to hard working low and lower middle class Americans.
Not exactly. The Oregon initiative is through a private company and you have to be a legal resident to apply. It is also open to uS Citizens. As for California, you have to be able to provide either an SS number or TIN and show that you have paid taxes, which means that really only the Dreamers will be able to apply.
 
Not exactly. The Oregon initiative is through a private company and you have to be a legal resident to apply. It is also open to uS Citizens. As for California, you have to be able to provide either an SS number or TIN and show that you have paid taxes, which means that really only the Dreamers will be able to apply.
Okay, are these available for U.S. born citizens?

Nice way of ignoring the rest.
 
Not exactly. The Oregon initiative is through a private company and you have to be a legal resident to apply. It is also open to uS Citizens. As for California, you have to be able to provide either an SS number or TIN and show that you have paid taxes, which means that really only the Dreamers will be able to apply.
Not exactly, lol. 😂
 
The lie is saying she hasn’t flip flopped on her positions just to sound moderate. So then the fact is she’s either 100% flip flopped or wait for it, she’s blatantly lying.
So the fact that she was willing to engage in a compromise to get much needed legislation after the Pubs threatened to hold the budget hostage makes her a liar? Of course there is the issue that the Pubs got pretty much everything they wanted and still wouldn't vote for the bill because it would make it harder for Trump to get elected. But back to Harris, I believe what she did was engage in the politics of running the country, which calls for compromise. So it actually makes her a patriot and a good legislator.
 
Okay, are these available for U.S. born citizens?

Nice way of ignoring the rest.
The problem with your posts is how often they are full of ridiculous and/or uninformed statements. There was a migration issue during the Trump administration. Remember the caravans? Trump actually let a greater percentage of people into this country than Biden. These problems don't go away because we close down our borders. We simply engage in cruelty and shift the problem. To address it correctly, we need pols who will engage with leaders in other countries to make some attempts to address the root causes for people leaving. Some of those decisions are attributable to which party the migrants think will be more receptive but most of it is from issues of dictatorship, repression and lack of an economy in those other countries. Just shouting build a wall does nothing to deal with those problems.
 
The problem with your posts is how often they are full of ridiculous and/or uninformed statements. There was a migration issue during the Trump administration. Remember the caravans? Trump actually let a greater percentage of people into this country than Biden. These problems don't go away because we close down our borders. We simply engage in cruelty and shift the problem. To address it correctly, we need pols who will engage with leaders in other countries to make some attempts to address the root causes for people leaving. Some of those decisions are attributable to which party the migrants think will be more receptive but most of it is from issues of dictatorship, repression and lack of an economy in those other countries. Just shouting build a wall does nothing to deal with those problems.
This is where you're showing your inability to be a free thinker. You're repeating the lies and doing so as if you actually believe them. Trump worked directly with leaders of these countries. He just did so with language you delicate flakes can't respect. He had the Mexican government better maintain their southern border, held them accountable for allowing the caravans to migrate to the U.S. by keeping them in Mexico during the asylum process and allowed the border patrol to actually do their job. You just buy into everything your lords sell you and try to make it as though we can't see things with our own eyes. You want to use percentage of people as a measurement. The percentage under Trump was close to on par with Obama. Though Obama deported more, oddly enough. Except for 2019 when the percentage was lower, for whatever reason. But. Border crossings have been four to five times higher under Biden than they were under Trump. So is a percentage based mark really fair?

The vast majority of people migrating to the U.S. is not asylum seeking, or escaping violence. It is for economic reasons. Which I absolutely do not fault anyone for. There is a reason why the majority of them attempt to get into the country without getting caught and then using asylum as their reason. They know they don't qualify for asylum.
 
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