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Wait a minuteeee I’m starting to hear voices in my head! I think I need to renege!! Jerry Jerry Jerry!
 
Some of the scariest and most illogical mandates I’ve heard in my time as an American citizen.

Take this vaccine so I can be protected even though I have taken the vaccine. Some solid logic there. Oh and even though you’re vaccinated make sure you mask up anyway. Oh and if you don’t you’re fired.

“15 days to slow the spread.”
 
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Could anyone who saw the great unifier speech answer a few questions for me.About a year ago he and Kamala said not to trust the Trump vaccine.Are the vaccines used now different ones?He constantly said to trust him.Should we trust what he said today or last year?The second question is if you are vaccinated and even if you get Covid it will be very mild how can an unvaccinated person kill you?Last he constantly referred to top government Doctors.Is Fauci who had been wrong at every turn or lying at every turn one of these Doctors we should trust)
Once again, you got it wrong. You are nothing if not consistent.
 
Some of the scariest and most illogical mandates I’ve heard in my time as an American citizen.

Take this vaccine so I can be protected even though I have taken the vaccine. Some solid logic there. Oh and even though you’re vaccinated make sure you mask up anyway. Oh and if you don’t you’re fired.

“15 days to slow the spread.”
Lotta youngsters ending up in hospitals very sick with the Delta variant. You rethinking your "zero risk for young people" position?
 
Lotta youngsters ending up in hospitals very sick with the Delta variant. You rethinking your "zero risk for young people" position?
Not one bit. Show me the data on deaths directly related. Show me the data that proves unvaccinated people were the ones that infected them. Show me the data on co-morbidities of who’s in the hospital. They said the vaccines were 90-95% effective but clearly that only applied to covid, not the variants. Soooo why the totalitarian push for vaccinations? If it’s bc your risk of death or serious illness is lower fine, data seems to support that, if your answer is to save the children, data does not.
 
Once again, you got it wrong. You are nothing if not consistent.
You use fact checkers to refute what I saw with my own eyes.There was no ambiguity in what they said.They flat out said they would not take the vaccine that Trump sponsored.Biden has a fifty year history of lying so why would I believe anything out of his mouth.He also said to trust government Doctors give me a break.After a year and a half of lying,and misinformation that ship has sailed.
 
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Lotta youngsters ending up in hospitals very sick with the Delta variant. You rethinking your "zero risk for young people" position?
Major studies out of Israel says it is not necessary to vaccinate children.UK medical the equivalent of our CDC will not allow vaccinations .Your side always says follow the science but only if it aligns with your political beliefs.After consultations with all three of my Doctors they told me that I don’t need to be vaccinated,but according to you I should get new Doctors.Think I will listen to medical professionals rather than a lawyer
 
in case facts are needed

American Association for pediatrics

Mortality (45 states, NYC, PR and GU reported)*​


  • Among states reporting, children were 0.00%-0.27% of all COVID-19 deaths, and 7 states reported zero child deaths
  • In states reporting, 0.00%-0.03% of all child COVID-19 cases resulted in death
Now look at the 5 year flu average and RSV with children. Then ask what in the hell are we doing masking our children and filling their heads with fear over something far less lethal.
 
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If you think this is truly about our health, there’s some ocean front property I’ll sell you in Kansas.
 
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Not one bit. Show me the data on deaths directly related. Show me the data that proves unvaccinated people were the ones that infected them. Show me the data on co-morbidities of who’s in the hospital. They said the vaccines were 90-95% effective but clearly that only applied to covid, not the variants. Soooo why the totalitarian push for vaccinations? If it’s bc your risk of death or serious illness is lower fine, data seems to support that, if your answer is to save the children, data does not.
you are right. if some one is really ill and has trouble breathing but ultimately gets out of the hospital, we should just dismiss his/her suffering. Just great.
 
Some of the scariest and most illogical mandates I’ve heard in my time as an American citizen.

Take this vaccine so I can be protected even though I have taken the vaccine. Some solid logic there. Oh and even though you’re vaccinated make sure you mask up anyway. Oh and if you don’t you’re fired.

“15 days to slow the spread.”
You keep dumbing down what the side you don't agree with is saying. The knowledge of the medical community has grown and changed during the past year an done half. And as the CDC noted, they did not account for how many assholes there are in this country who would just refuse to get vaccinated. that put us in a position where variants were taking over and those require re-strategizing. You hate Biden and Fauci, fine, but can you acknowledge that that bias is affecting how you are listening to what they are saying?
 
You keep dumbing down what the side you don't agree with is saying. The knowledge of the medical community has grown and changed during the past year an done half. And as the CDC noted, they did not account for how many assholes there are in this country who would just refuse to get vaccinated. that put us in a position where variants were taking over and those require re-strategizing. You hate Biden and Fauci, fine, but can you acknowledge that that bias is affecting how you are listening to what they are saying?
Fauci today said on CNN that he had no firm answer on why someone who has natural immunity, due to having recovered from the virus, should be vaccinated. He said we should take a serious look at it. Really? After what are we 18 or so months into this thing and now you’re thinking we should take a look at the fact that people who had it probably don’t need to be vaccinated. Thanks Tony! What a guy.

A large percentage of African Americans have not been vaccinated. They have their reasons. Can i be there when you tell all of them they are assholes?
 
you are right. if some one is really ill and has trouble breathing but ultimately gets out of the hospital, we should just dismiss his/her suffering. Just great.
You just accused me of dumbing down the side of this I don’t agree with and then you hit me with this? Hahaha jeez almighty.
 
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You just accused me of dumbing down the side of this I don’t agree with and then you hit me with this? Hahaha jeez almighty.
We shouldn't dismiss anyone's suffering. But for whatever reason the left acts like there was no suffering before covid. People are definitely suffering from covid, that's not debatable. But for whatever reason, we care more about covid than every other life altering/risk out there. These fvcktards would rather divide us by exploiting a pandemic than govern by using common sense and actual science. We're supposed to hate the unvaccinated even though there is literally no difference in the spread of covid from the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Really, we need to quit calling this a vaccine. Vaccines protect you from being symptomatic. This so called vaccine went from being 95% protective, to being protective against severe illness. Like the flu shot. They call it a flu shot because it is not a vaccine. So they should call this a covid shot the same.
 
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That is the liberal way.Preaching kindness and tolerance but hating on anyone or thing that does not comply with their agenda
Yup. Preach diversity while being unable to cope with anyone who disagrees with you… on pretty much anything. Very unstable emotionally it would appear although, to beat Dattier to the punch, I have no mental health training
 
We shouldn't dismiss anyone's suffering. But for whatever reason the left acts like there was no suffering before covid. People are definitely suffering from covid, that's not debatable. But for whatever reason, we care more about covid than every other life altering/risk out there. These fvcktards would rather divide us by exploiting a pandemic than govern by using common sense and actual science. We're supposed to hate the unvaccinated even though there is literally no difference in the spread of covid from the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Really, we need to quit calling this a vaccine. Vaccines protect you from being symptomatic. This so called vaccine went from being 95% protective, to being protective against severe illness. Like the flu shot. They call it a flu shot because it is not a vaccine. So they should call this a covid shot the same.
Absolutely, and I’m not dismissing anyone’s illness or hardships due to the virus. The question posed to me is of regret or want to rethink my stance on children now. Which I do not. We know exactly who is at risk. The data bears it out. There are select pediatric ICUs in the country that are being “overrun,” and each one of those children I pray for and would never dismiss their pain. I don’t want to see anyone suffering let alone children. With that said, it doesn’t take everything into context. Pediatric ICUs usually have 10 maybe 20 beds. So it doesn’t take much to make them overrun to begin with. Secondly, the much bigger threat to children is the RSV that is running rampant. It ran through both of my nieces in the last couple weeks. So it’s a perfect storm. It will subdue like all others before it, but to your point, we are acting as if covid and it’s many variants are the only thing that matters. We are stopping traffic to take more and more from every one for a virus that people under 65 have well over a 99% survival rate. The majority of at risk folks over 65 are now vaccinated. That’s a good thing. It lessens the severity of the virus. But we have GOT to stop calling everyone who disagrees with you on the vaccines assholes, killers, etc. you have no idea what their reasonings are, and there are MANY. Personally, I got vaccinated and think their safe, but I’m in absolutely no position to lecture someone else on what they should be putting into their bodies.
 
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Absolutely, and I’m not dismissing anyone’s illness or hardships due to the virus. The question posed to me is of regret or want to rethink my stance on children now. Which I do not. We know exactly who is at risk. The data bears it out. There are select pediatric ICUs in the country that are being “overrun,” and each one of those children I pray for and would never dismiss their pain. I don’t want to see anyone suffering let alone children. With that said, it doesn’t take everything into context. Pediatric ICUs usually have 10 maybe 20 beds. So it doesn’t take much to make them overrun to begin with. Secondly, the much bigger threat to children is the RSV that is running rampant. It ran through both of my nieces in the last couple weeks. So it’s a perfect storm. It will subdue like all others before it, but to your point, we are acting as if covid and it’s many variants are the only thing that matters. We are stopping traffic to take more and more from every one for a virus that people under 65 have well over a 99% survival rate. The majority of at risk folks over 65 are now vaccinated. That’s a good thing. It lessens the severity of the virus. But we have GOT to stop calling everyone who disagrees with you on the vaccines assholes, killers, etc. you have no idea what their reasonings are, and there are MANY. Personally, I got vaccinated and think their safe, but I’m in absolutely no position to lecture someone else on what they should be putting into their bodies.
I am sorry but that last sentence is bullshit. We all should be lecturing the anti-vaxxers and telling them to get real medical advice and stop listening to what every two-bit crack pot they are listening to. Had we had a higher vaccine rate, we would not be in this mess. People are not individual islands that always get to do what they want. They live in societies and have certain obligations to their fellow citizens. Men have no problem telling women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term but we can't tell people to cut the crap and do their part to get vaccinated?
 
How dare you make any reference to how 'I feel about 9/11. That is so goddamn way out of bounds. I work down there, and have very strong feelings about what happened and I don't make comparisons like that.
I can't stand most of your posts but this one was low even for you.
Well. It was more in reference to your asinine view of January 6th. There's literally no reason for me to believe that you had a different view than this god awful, American hating lib. Based on your posting history. If I was wrong, I am glad. If I owe you an apology because you don't agree with this terrible person, then I am sorry.
 
Well. It was more in reference to your asinine view of January 6th. There's literally no reason for me to believe that you had a different view than this god awful, American hating lib. Based on your posting history. If I was wrong, I am glad. If I owe you an apology because you don't agree with this terrible person, then I am sorry.
I guess that is as much of an apology as you can muster, so apology accepted.
 
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