I agree some of the rankings seem to rank these guys based on upside, athleticism, and how good of an NBA prospect they are. So you aren't always getting finished products, even in the top 10. Of course some of it has to do with guys staying and developing. Seems like 2 years may be the sweet spot for a lot of these guys. A guy like Timme, he doesn't seem to have improved from last year. Of course he doesn't have Holmgren as a frontcourt mate. Not sure he should have come back. Guys like Moore and Williams really helped their draft stock.