We need a PG….Proctor is not one.We need to keep some guys. Our incoming class is good, but we can't start 4 freshman, no matter how good.
Unfortunately that's 2 Tourney losses to rivals.Chance to make the final 4 and lose to an 11 seed NC St. Just an embarrassing loss for the program. Probably won't find a loss this bad....
I wouldn’t mind seeing proctor and Mitchell leave too, but the blame’s got to go to scheyer. So much talent that hasn’t developed into much of anything from one season to the next. We had a really poorly played regular season and outside of these 3 ncaa wins we haven’t truly looked like a good team. Truthfully the only game we played well was against jmu. We beat Houston in a tough grind out game but we didn’t play overly wellFoster told us in one of his first interviews he's a starter. He got that chance when Proctor went down, but he wanted it from the beginning. Proctor and Mitchell can go too.
I agree….We can live without both of those players.I wouldn’t mind seeing proctor and Mitchell leave too, but the blame’s got to go to scheyer. So much talent that hasn’t developed into much of anything from one season to the next. We had a really poorly played regular season and outside of these 3 ncaa wins we haven’t truly looked like a good team. Truthfully the only game we played well was against jmu. We beat Houston in a tough grind out game but we didn’t play overly well
And it showsNC State has 9 transfers not one freshman play any minutes!
I get that as well, but I don't think this team is a one year development project. Our flaws were hid last year until Tenn. Mitchell was forced to start and Flip played the wing. This year, Flip is the center and Mitchell has more responsibility. We are not that team. Flip is at his best with a Center/Rim Protector. Mitchell is at his best with NO PRESSURE!I wouldn’t mind seeing proctor and Mitchell leave too, but the blame’s got to go to scheyer. So much talent that hasn’t developed into much of anything from one season to the next. We had a really poorly played regular season and outside of these 3 ncaa wins we haven’t truly looked like a good team. Truthfully the only game we played well was against jmu. We beat Houston in a tough grind out game but we didn’t play overly well
State played two better games than us, who are better, in the span of a week.We are better than State but State just played a better game .
Flip couldn't stick DJ... or any post player.We need to prioritize SPACING. Flip playing 5 with someone 6"5 or taller who can shoot would have been really helpful. We were never going to win with 3 guards under 6'4 and a 5 with no rim protection
I think its hard when all we recruit are star players...they want to score...they dont want to be role players...so any offense has to let people shoot...some of whom should not or cannot with any consistency...we need a TEAM...not a group of talented individuals...Uconn..Purdue are good teams...I agree….We can live without both of those players.
Jon needs an offensive system…..we have been plagued by some pretty poor offensive performances since he has taken the reigns.
I do think we play good defense under Scheyer….but a long way to go offensively.
I would absolutely take a junior proctor. He had a bad game but his d was lights out against houstonGuys Proctor had a terrible game but you really don't want a junior Proctor? And a junior Mitchell.
Proctor need to go see the wizard and live in the weight room if he come back!!Guys Proctor had a terrible game but you really don't want a junior Proctor? And a junior Mitchell.
This why I'm concerned with next year's team. I've said it over and over, COVID and NIL changed a lot of things in college basketball.I think its hard when all we recruit are star players...they want to score...they dont want to be role players...so any offense has to let people shoot...some of whom should not or cannot with any consistency...we need a TEAM...not a group of talented individuals...Uconn..Purdue are good teams...
Guys Proctor had a terrible game but you really don't want a junior Proctor? And a junior Mitchell.
We had no answer for Burns.My issue overall is with Scheyer's tactics in the second half.
We had no answer for Burns, and really didn't try anything different until it was too late.
And we had NO answer to get a guard an open look.
I'll take them back in a heartbeat. Anyone who says otherwise is crazy.Guys Proctor had a terrible game but you really don't want a junior Proctor? And a junior Mitchell.
That's what i said. Lol.We had no answer for Burns.
Proctor has not been allowed to be the 'dominant guard'. As a team player, he has been horrible. Dominant guard...it may be a different conversation.No. I've been in the Proctor being extremely overrated for a long time and many here hit back on it. I believe many ate seeing the light on him now. He has a good game every now and then, but for the most part he doesn't bring alot IMO.
Watching today it seemed like Scheyer was slowing everything down calling a lot of sets. No transition offense whatsoever. Sometimes you have to let them play a little bit and he didn’t do that today.I agree….We can live without both of those players.
Jon needs an offensive system…..we have been plagued by some pretty poor offensive performances since he has taken the reigns.
I do think we play good defense under Scheyer….but a long way to go offensively.
If we take them back we lose possibility three recruits. I get it, but the pushback will be different.I'll take them back in a heartbeat. Anyone who says otherwise is crazy.
Yup. Just a tall guard.. Not much of anything else consistentlyNo. I've been in the Proctor being extremely overrated for a long time and many here hit back on it. I believe many are seeing the light on him now. He has a good game every now and then, but for the most part he doesn't bring alot IMO.
Both will benefit way better next year with the pieces coming in . Just like this team wasn’t set up for Flips style of play next season is set up real well for Proctor and Foster running the point .I'll take them back in a heartbeat. Anyone who says otherwise is crazy.
It’s an unknown…..I think the answer has been on the bench since game 1.We had no answer for Burns.
No reason to return.Scheyer’s best recruit will be convincing McCain to return .
Proctor has not been allowed to be the 'dominant guard'. As a team player, he has been horrible. Dominant guard...it may be a different conversation.