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Coach Brey

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I guess I missed that Coach Brey isn’t retiring but just moving on from Notre Dame.

During last nights broadcast announcers stated that Brey will coach again.

Wonder where he may end up?

Maybe Georgetown?
 
I guess I missed that Coach Brey isn’t retiring but just moving on from Notre Dame.

During last nights broadcast announcers stated that Brey will coach again.

Wonder where he may end up?

Maybe Georgetown?
I heard that as well and was definitely surprised. Georgetown could be a nice landing spot.

Could h e be frustrated that Notre Dame isn't playing in the NIL world? If so, would Georgetown be a good NIL program? It seems to be free agency during the offseason these days.
 
I’m not sure about all that NIL stuff…

Georgetown isn’t officially open but I don’t think they have a choice but to move on from Ewing. In fact I hope he resigns to make it more comfortable.
 
My sense from reading an article about Brey is that he may get out of the ratrace and coach on the HS or Prep level. Time to live his life but still coach basketball.
OFC
 
Some guys move to a lower DI school, admittedly sometimes it's due to sanctions (Brey doesn't have that problem), but it might be for less recruiting pressure too. I'd love to see Brey back on the East Coast, maybe in the A 10 or Patriot's League.
 
ND has been pretty irrelevant for the past 5-6 years. Guess Brey feels like things will only get worse, most likely means that ND isn’t all hands on deck for NIL.

I’d assume Boeheim goes next. But for Bray, I don’t think he will land a gig on the level of ND. I’d love him as an assistant on our bench, but that won’t happen.
 
To be fair, they are 9-4 in NCAAT games 2015-present.

Elite 8 in 2015 and 2016. Round of 32 in 2017 and 2022.
Not as bad as I thought. 2015 was probably the best ND team ever? They almost took down undefeated UK in the Elite8. They beat us 2 of 3 that year, though the game in Cameron we were once up 45 points.

I guess Duke has just had ND’s number over the years. They beat us in Cameron during our bad year, but other than that they haven’t beat us since the 2016 ACC tournament.
 
Sometimes a fresh start is needed. He might just be tired of being at a football school as well or just don’t want to deal with NIL in general . Either way at the end of the season his phone will be blowing up with offers.
 
Georgia Tech should offer Mark Price the job. Or John Salley. I don't see how it could be any worse.
 
Find it odd that Georgia Tech has been irrelevant for so long now. They are in Atlanta, having a team of just all of the best players from that city would be a solid ACC squad. Based on the fact that the football program is a joke too, I’d assume the high up administration doesn’t care much about sports.

Hell, they were sponsored by “Russell” brand forever, no college kid wants to wear that.
 
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ND has been pretty irrelevant for the past 5-6 years. Guess Brey feels like things will only get worse, most likely means that ND isn’t all hands on deck for NIL.

I’d assume Boeheim goes next. But for Bray, I don’t think he will land a gig on the level of ND. I’d love him as an assistant on our bench, but that won’t happen.
Dan I would love to have Brey back on the Duke bench. As effective as he and K once were, imagine the experience he would bring now. He's genuinely a nice person as well. The only problem I foresee: Even if Jon wanted to hire him, K would never allow it. OFC
 
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Dan I would love to have Brey back on the Duke bench. As effective as he and K once were, imagine the experience he would bring now. He's genuinely a nice person as well. The only problem I foresee: Even if Jon wanted to hire him, K would never allow it. OFC
I agree about Brey, but why do you think K would never allow that? Hasn’t K said over and over that Jon is in total control of this program now?
 
I agree about Brey, but why do you think K would never allow that? Hasn’t K said over and over that Jon is in total control of this program now?
And Dan who knows? Perhaps you're right. I know they recently had a great reunion.

However, Brey represents a departure from the K tree (I know Jai Lucas does too), but I believe (and this is all opinion based), Brey might take an edge off some of the elder statesman influence K has over the program. (Mind you I know it's only token), but I think it's still important to K and he's not ready to TOTALLY let go. Just a hunch.

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I’d assume Boeheim goes next. But for Bray, I don’t think he will land a gig on the level of ND. I’d love him as an assistant on our bench, but that won’t happen.
Curious Dan, regarding Brey being on the Duke bench as a Scheyer asst, why do you think "that won't happen?"

OFC
 
I don't know Brey; but it could be an ego thing. I know Wojo probably wouldn't want to be Jon's assistant. I don't know what Brey would get out of it. It seems like a demotion.
 
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Curious Dan, regarding Brey being on the Duke bench as a Scheyer asst, why do you think "that won't happen?"

OFC
Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me for Brey to leave a HC ACC gig just to become an assistant for an ACC team.

And just my hunch: there is a culture difference between the Duke program and the ND program. ND (in football too) still heavily factors in academics when bringing players in, it’s why they can never beat the big boys.

I am not saying that Duke doesn’t consider how smart a kid is when recruiting him. But let’s face it: The Brotherhood, NBA culture, Instagram followers have all become a part of the Duke program. For better or worse. Duke basketball players are celebrities. ND basketball players are student athletes.
 
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I don't know Brey; but it could be an ego thing. I know Wojo probably wouldn't want to be Jon's assistant. I don't know what Brey would get out of it. It seems like a demotion.
Perhaps it would be less stressful at this stage of Brey's career. Lots of difference between offering suggestions and making the final decision. Personally I think Brey is comfortable enough in his own skin he wouldn't look at it as a demotion.

OFC
 
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Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me for Brey to leave a HC ACC gig just to become an assistant for an ACC team.

And just my hunch: there is a culture difference between the Duke program and the ND program. ND (in football too) still heavily factors in academics when bringing players in, it’s why they can never beat the big boys.

I am not saying that Duke doesn’t consider how smart a kid is when recruiting him. But let’s face it: The Brotherhood, NBA culture, Instagram followers have all become a part of the Duke program. For better or worse. Duke basketball players are celebrities. ND basketball players are student athletes.
I can buy in to most of your points. I think it just really depends on what environment Coach Brey is seeking. Duke basketball has evolved greatly over the last decade. OFC
 
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Not to be a high horse, but that is another thing about OAD that rubs me the wrong way. How serious a student are you if you are hell bent on being a OAD. It just makes us look like an NBA training ground. I would like to see Jon pivot away from that a bit, and it sounds like he will. It sucks that our most serious students are the transfers. And yes, even if it means less wins I would prefer it. I think you can do both.
 
Not to be a high horse, but that is another thing about OAD that rubs me the wrong way. How serious a student are you if you are hell bent on being a OAD. It just makes us look like an NBA training ground. I would like to see Jon pivot away from that a bit, and it sounds like he will. It sucks that our most serious students are the transfers. And yes, even if it means less wins I would prefer it. I think you can do both.
Bravo Chris, I agree!

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Not to be a high horse, but that is another thing about OAD that rubs me the wrong way. How serious a student are you if you are hell bent on being a OAD. It just makes us look like an NBA training ground. I would like to see Jon pivot away from that a bit, and it sounds like he will. It sucks that our most serious students are the transfers. And yes, even if it means less wins I would prefer it. I think you can do both.
If they were serious students then the transfers would have stayed! You trying to tell me Creighton, ole Miss, Texas tech, even Boston college or USC holds as much value as a Duke degree? Players can not help the brand Duke has become . They come to Duke seeing if this privately owned college can build such a brand like this imagine what they can teach me about building my brand ! You really can’t blame a kid for using a schools success to help them their selfs become successful.
 
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If they were serious students then the transfers would have stayed! You trying to tell me Creighton, ole Miss, Texas tech, even Boston college or USC holds as much value as a Duke degree? Players can not help the brand Duke has become . They come to Duke seeing if this privately owned college can build such a brand like this imagine what they can teach me about building my brand ! You really can’t blame a kid for using a schools success to help them their selfs become successful.
I don't subscribe to The Athletic, but there's an article today quoting Scheyer as gradually "bringing in less of the OAD's." True, you can't blame kids for using Duke as an NBA pitstop (which is what we've largely become), yet we can curtail it and further stress the value of a Duke degree. I am glad Jon is committed to changing the narrative. OFC
 
I don't subscribe to The Athletic, but there's an article today quoting Scheyer as gradually "bringing in less of the OAD's." True, you can't blame kids for using Duke as an NBA pitstop (which is what we've largely become), yet we can curtail it and further stress the value of a Duke degree. I am glad Jon is committed to changing the narrative. OFC
But he’s not . He’s simply saying he’s looking at all avenues in the article basically . You can look at his recruiting stance by looking at the 23-25 class. He’s still going off the same module as K but hoping he can convince kids to stay . Out of next years class Mgbako is the only suspected OAD . However you can’t say that without seeing them at this level . K caught onto it and Jon will too. Some players just aren’t going to stay and role players won’t either because they don’t want to wait. Not being negative but sometimes we look at what coaches say as a sign of change rather then saying the right thing that needs to be heard for players .
The only thing Jon has done different is play a bigger bench but we have began to see it shrink as well .
 
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Grain of salt, but he also expects some players back. I've been burnt by this in the past, but maybe guys like Flip and Mitchell and Proctor are different. Maybe we are overdue for some borderline players to come back. Obviously Lively and Whitehead are gone.
 
I just read an article written three weeks ago saying don’t be surprised to see Bobby Hurley connected to both Georgetown and St John’s.

I’d like him to get back this way myself.
 
My choice to replace Brey: A guy who has turned around all three college programs he's been at, and he's Catholic. Care to guess?
OFC
 
It seemed like in the 70's/80's Notre Dame was a top team. Kelly Tripuka, David Rivers. Now they seem to treat basketball as an afterthought.
 
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On reflection, maybe he would prefer it there - certainly a tougher league, but recruiting kids to ND has to be easier than recruiting them to UConn.
 
U Conn has recruited the NYC area kids pretty good the last 30 years. A lot of them get sent to prep schools in New England and the tri state area.
 
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