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Re: This latest pile o' crap about "Call me Dickie's" MEGA-ridiculous bonuses he EARNED for unc's achievements "on the field AND in the classroom". We WILL get into that absurd foolishness..... but not today.


...... Meanwhile, there is no smoke from the papal chimney regarding a new Defensive Coordinator over at The Flagship. The longer we go with no word, the less likely it'll be Gene Chizik. Did this website affect the decision? Naaaa.


FROM: BobLee

For the 3-4 of you mildly interested in Operation CHIZIK.... :) there is a mandatory BE THERE Meeting of The Fedorians this coming Wednesday. IF there is a BFD Announcement of new staff it would be around then.... or not!


Former UNC LB Tommy Thigpen (who was on Butcher's staff but despised Blake, then joined Chizik at Auburn and now at Tennessee) is rumored to be a possibility though not likely as DC but, hey, who knows ???

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No confirmation on this yet...



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@DevilDJ32 unc dragging a** on SACS. Extension to January 12. Tutors must not be done w/ paper, likely plagiarizing Brewton-Parker response.

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#unc asked for.. and has been granted an extension for the #SACS response. University has until Monday, January 12th to answer violations.

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Originally posted by DevilDJ:
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Derek Rowles @DerekRowles




#unc asked for.. and has been granted an extension for the #SACS response. University has until Monday, January 12th to answer violations.
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Ahh, those Heels need a little more time to fabricate a better lie. I've got confidence in them...I know they can do it.

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When you cheat to win you still lose. And just because UNC does it doesn't mean that every one else does it. OFC

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13 pages? Wow.
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As long as unx continues to be unx this thread will continue to grow. So much cheating. So little bandwidth. Lol. Amusing how unx fans critique those who dare to talk about their scandal(s) rather than the scumbag coaches , players , administrators , professors , alums and convicted felons who turned that school into the poster-child for NCAA corruption and a national laughingstock. #carolinaway
 
But, but, Kentucky fans, NC State fans and so many other fan bases have a lot of threads with a lot of pages too. Everybody else is doing it. You just caught us.
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Originally posted by hoosurdukie:
But, but, Kentucky fans, NC State fans and so many other fan bases have a lot of threads with a lot of pages too. Everybody else is doing it. You just caught us.
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Have yet to see a 13 page thread on other sites about UNC. Good to hear you guys are proud about your accomplishment. Would love to see this hit 20+.
 
So you're saying we're the only ones that are doing it? Well then in my opinion, any message board related banners and accomplishments should be taken away, as well as a death penalty for the board for the time that this thread was occurring.
 
A 13-page thread on a message board is nothing in comparison to the national ( and INTERnational ) coverage unx's cheating has brought them. One would think the.tarhole nation would PRAY their corruption only shows up in a "13-page thread." One would think anyway. unx is THE dirtiest school in NCAA history and their fans whine because people actually talk about it. Lol.
 
All their fans aren't delusional and more concerned with what rivals are saying than they are with having an athletic program that wins at all costs. Most ARE, mind you , but not all...



Mike Payne: 'Baby steps' for unc


As a former (i.e., pre-scandal) avid unc sports fan, I was mildly gratified to read in the Jan. 1 news story " unc identifies 4 disciplined" that the school is finally taking a few baby steps in the right direction.


Unfortunately, major questions remain unanswered: Why is Roy ("I didn't know") Williams still on the payroll? Why is Bubba ("What's the big deal?") Cunningham still on the payroll? Why is unc not imposing sanctions on itself rather than participating in an undeserved bowl game and continuing business-as-usual basketball competition?


It would appear that neither the trustees nor the chancellor has the guts to do what needs to be done. In other words, the athletic tail continues to wag the academic dog. Here's hoping that the NCAA drops a major bomb on the whole disgraceful mess.


MIKE PAYNE


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Well said , Mikey. Well said indeed.

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What a load. Chansky. A 2-second internet search will tell ya all ya need to know about Chizik. The hiring announcement was a "trial balloon." unx floats this name out there to see if they can get away with hiring another cheater. He may be hired but , alas tarholes , the world knows he's a scumbag. The blowback is deafening. Not than unx cares. So much for "reform." Business as usual on the Hill.And btw..."vetted by the NCAA" doesn't mean an endorsement or a recommendation. It just means the candidate is eligible to be hired. That's it. I'm sure Jeffrey Dahmer made it thru a few license checks too. Scumbags. Blake passed a "vetting." So did Butch. Unreal. This is 100% propaganda. "We're setting new standards for institutional control." My azz. If that were true , Chizik wouldn't even be up for consideration. Galling. #carolinaway...



Chizik Hiring Slowed By Background Investigation


By Art Chansky


Despite widespread reports last week that unc football would name Gene Chizik as its new defensive coordinator, sources close to the university and athletic department say the vetting process for the former Auburn head coach is still going on.


This, apparently, is a much more detailed review than has occurred with past coaching hires due to the NCAA sanctions and academic scandal that have rocked carolina over the last three-plus years. It could be considered redefining what "institutional control" means at unc.


Chizik coached Auburn to an undefeated season (14-0) and national championship in 2010, but he was fired two years later amid reports that his program was immersed in similar issues that have confronted carolina since an NCAA investigation began in Chapel Hill over the summer of 2010.


Chizik was hired by Auburn after going 5-19 in his last two seasons as head coach at Iowa State. The appointment was controversial because of Chizik's record, but in his four seasons at Auburn the Tigers won the national championship behind Heisman Trophy winning quarterback Cam Newton, who now plays for the carolina Panthers. Newton had been the subject of a separate NCAA probe over his father's involvement in his recruitment by several major college football programs, but was cleared.


The following season, Chizik went 8-5 and then 3-9 in 2012, after which he agreed to a buyout of the remaining years of his contract. Chizik stayed out of coaching for two seasons, working for Sirius XM Radio and ESPN while being paid off by Auburn. In the wake of reports that he was headed for unc, stories of Chizik's unpleasant parting at Auburn have been rekindled by the media.


Writing on AL.com, Kevin Scarbinsky reported in November, 2012, that "official and unofficial Auburn power brokers were told the past off-season that Gene Chizik's program was coming apart at the seams." The problems included the arrest and conviction of several players, behavioral issues, some players not going to class and skipping workouts and others reportedly smoking synthetic marijuana.


In unc's initial vetting process, it found Chizik to have no charges from the NCAA and not directly involved in any of the controversial issues that led to Auburn buying out his contract. But with background checks yielding the same results for former unc coaches Butch Davis and John Blake, who were both fired during the NCAA probe, carolina is apparently looking much closer at Chizik's past.


The university has suffered immeasurable public relations damage, including a continuing NCAA investigation into the academic and athletic scandal, and a review of its accreditation. Thus, Chancellor Carol Folt is asking for more information on Chizik and checking more deeply into his associations than was done with Davis and Blake under former Chancellor James Moeser and Athletic Director Dick Baddour.


"This could be a seminal moment in unc's definition of institutional control," said one prominent alumnus close to the situation. "Had some of the things that Folt is doing now been done in 2006 [when Davis was named head coach], John Blake would have likely never been hired. "


Blake was the first unc employee to be fired in the first NCAA investigation and was eventually charged with accepting money to steer players to now-deceased agent Gary Wichard for professional representation.


Sources confirmed that Folt is working closely with advisors and Athletic Director Bubba Cunningham to thoroughly vet Chizik's past and character because they do not want further damage to the university's reputation.


Folt, Cunningham and head football coach Larry Fedora could not be reached, and a unc spokesman said they would have no comment while the search continues for a new defensive coordinator. Earlier reports had Chizik's annual salary from unc in the $750,000 range.

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Lots here. Mary and Jay...



At unc, dithering is done, but still deep in denial


For far too long faculty and administrators at unc have found it soothing and convenient and oh-so-easy to believe in the bedrock virtues of our athletic program (the carolina Way!) and of the larger system of college sports in which it participates ("student-athletes" are great!) A determination to ask the difficult questions about big-time sports and the ethical compromises they require-for the purpose of providing honest and productive answers to those questions-has not been part of the culture at unc-Chapel Hill for a very long time. This is why we at paperclassinc are so saddened and discouraged by the University's response to Ken Wainstein's findings. The world has heard assurances about "70 reforms" and "22 processes." And we are now witnessing the ritual sacrifice of the scapegoats-including one leader whose work was facilitated, rewarded, encouraged, and protected by all of the University's leaders from 1988 until recent weeks. But to date we see no evidence that the University is ready to cease the feel-good mythologizing that has always helped to insulate the athletic department from scrutiny and criticism on our campus. On the contrary, the ID'ing of individuals whose supposedly exceptional corruption lay behind all our problems, and the insistence that faulty "procedures" have been all but fixed, suggests a desire to return to business as usual as quickly as possible. The Wainstein report should have been the machete that cleared the path to a new way of doing business at unc-Chapel Hill. Instead, leaders apparently intend to use it as a decoy to distract attention from the structural deformities they plan to leave untouched.

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Originally posted by coachdubausee:



Originally posted by hoosurdukie:
But, but, Kentucky fans, NC State fans and so many other fan bases have a lot of threads with a lot of pages too. Everybody else is doing it. You just caught us.
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Have yet to see a 13 page thread on other sites about UNC. Good to hear you guys are proud about your accomplishment. Would love to see this hit 20+.
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Then you haven't looked very hard. Pack Pride has had tons of threads that got so large they archived them, and started more. Some of the threads were 40-50+ pages long. And the Kentucky site may not have as many pages on a single thread, but they've had hundreds of threads about UNC and 'The Great Unpleasantness'.

If the scandal was about Duke, there would be hundreds of pages about it on THR....and you would be loving it.


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That's what's killing them. They wanna believe everyone is doing, but they're not. Won't ever happen at Duke. Deal with it cheaters!!
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Their beloved "carolina way" is a punch-line. Exposed for the hypocritical lie it's always been. The fact that the icon...Dean himself...was instrumental in the formation of the AFAM department has got to be the unkindest cut of all. "Patero'nd"
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That said , unx still deceitful. Trying to hold on to those complicit in the fraud. "We punished them. We promise..."



Number of those fired in unc grades scandal remains fuzzy


Officials at North carolina's flagship university may fire fewer staffers for their role in an academic fraud scandal than University of North carolina at Chapel Hill Chancellor Carol Folt previously described.


University officials last week named three unc-CH professors or academic counselors who were dismissed, in line for firing, or resigning since Oct. 22, the day that a scathing report into the long-running cheating scandal was released. Folt previously said hours after the report was released that four were slated for termination. School officials have refused to clarify the discrepancy.


"Someone may have misspoken at some point. That is a possibility," unc-CH spokesman Rich White said.


The report by former U.S. Justice Department official Kenneth Wainstein described a pattern of fake classes, which allowed 3,100 athletes and other students to earn artificially high grades from 1993 to 2011.


"We have terminated or commenced disciplinary actions against nine university employees," Folt said Oct. 22 in describing her reaction to the report's findings.


Asked by The Associated Press how many of the nine were being fired, Folt said: "four at this point ... we're proceeding with severing, with separation."


Minutes earlier, Tom Ross, president of the 16-campus University of North carolina system, said: "I will take steps to initiate one additional personnel action involving an individual formerly employed on this campus, now employed at another unc campus."


Ross was referring to Beth Bridger, one of the unc-Chapel Hill football counselors named in the report as steering players toward the bogus classes, who lost her job at the University of North carolina at Wilmington the day the report was published, spokeswoman Joni Worthington said this week.


It's not clear whether Folt was thinking of Bridger when she said four "university" employees were slated for dismissal, or if there were moves to fire one of the six other unc-CH employees being reviewed for possible disciplinary action.


"Of the employees referred to by the Chancellor during the October 22 news conference, six were designated to undergo a review for consideration of any disciplinary action," campus lawyer David Parker said in a statement released last week seeking to settle a lawsuit by The Associated Press and nine other media organizations.


The litigation came after unc-Chapel Hill officials said they weren't required to produce records of dismissed or demoted employees until staffers finished appealing the decision, a process that could take years in some cases.


Parker this week referred questions about the discrepancy to White, the school's associate vice chancellor for communications.


The campus last week promised to quickly disclose decisions on whether or not to impose penalties on the six unnamed unc-CH employees as those decisions are made, Parker's statement said.


The media groups filed their lawsuit because North carolina's public records law requires state agencies, including public universities, to make employee records available. That includes dismissal, suspension or demotion records.


Court-ordered mediation of the lawsuit led to statements last week by Parker and Folt, who identified philosophy professor and former faculty leader Jeanette Boxill as one of those slated for firing. Boxill is appealing Folt's decision and has not responded to requests for comment.


Boxill directed women's basketball players she advised into the fake courses, at least twice sought to influence the grades given to students, and acknowledged sometimes editing student papers, the Wainstein report said.


Parker also disclosed that Timothy McMillan resigned. He was a senior lecturer in the Department of African, African American and Diaspora Studies, the renamed department where a retired administrator orchestrated and a retired chairman allowed the pattern of no-show classes and generous grades.


Parker also said unc-CH academic counselor Jaimie Lee was terminated, which was previously reported.

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Basically...


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Posted: Today 8:08 PM


Re: unc scandal cont.


Some of the scapegoats have probably said "Fire me or discipline me and I march right out that door and into Dan Kane's office with everything I know....." and suddenly they aren't on the naughty list anymore......
 
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@SethDavisHoops should unc be concerned?


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given how the NCAA hammered the fb program, yes

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Fortunately for unx and their fans , the posters at Devils Illustrated are the only ones paying attention to the most egregious corruption in NCAA history. 13-page thread an' all...
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@DevilDJ32 @Rand_Getlin @EricPrisbell @AuthorPMBarrett @sganim @macwfnz @TheCallUpCLT @DavidGlennShow excellent blog post by @paperclassinc

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Originally posted by DevilDJ:
Fortunately for unx and their fans , the posters at Devils Illustrated are the only ones paying attention to the most egregious corruption in NCAA history. 13-page thread an' all...
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All due to the tireless efforts of our own DevilDJ, who's keeping up the good fight. Go get 'em, DevilDJ, you're doing us proud!

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Originally posted by OldasdirtDevil:
Originally posted by DevilDJ:
Fortunately for unx and their fans , the posters at Devils Illustrated are the only ones paying attention to the most egregious corruption in NCAA history. 13-page thread an' all...
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All due to the tireless efforts of our own DevilDJ, who's keeping up the good fight. Go get 'em, DevilDJ, you're doing us proud!

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DevilDJ has to be the most popular DI poster over at THR.OFC

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Jay Smith vs B-Rad. The e-mails. A sampling...


"Fortunately for you, you have tenure. You won't burn/ But many of my colleagues and former colleagues (and probably me if you decide to show my emails to others) have burned and continue to burn."

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"Counselors had to recommend the paper classes if there was to be any chance of those students learning some academic skills to apply to other classes."


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What "other"classes? They were incapable of doing college-level work. End of story. B-Rad rationalizes the cheating...and he does it by making a ludicrous assertion. Counselors sent morons to fraudulent classes to HELP them academically NOT to keep them eligible to play ball. Another...


"That's why it would've been nice if you had reached out to us before casting my office in the same light as the Athletics department...especially the Athletics department during the Butch Davis era."


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Here's an interesting aspect to all this. The tarhole nation hangs on B-Rad's every word as if it were gospel. Thing is , most unx'ers still deify Butch too. Bethel often scapegoats Davis' recruiting as a reason for the low academic scores among football players at unx. Tarholes rarely , if ever , acknowledge the divergence of opinions. Basically , the eat up what they like hearing and ignore the rest. #carolinaway. More...

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B-Rad. The "Public" vs "Private" persona...


"First, again, I think we agree that UNC has never been equipped to accommodate some of the student-athletes who were specially admitted. . . Second, we both also agree many students appear to have earned highly inflated grades in the paper classes."

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I have a request for any unx/B-Rad fans monitoring this thread. If you can present a compelling argument as to why those e-mails are NOT hugely devastating for yer hero and unx , please do so in this forum. Call me crazy but despite all his blogging and all his bravado , he sure SEEMS like a guy who AGREES with Mary and Jay. But , hey , that's jus' me.
 
Ladies an' gents , a few words from Mary Will- , uhhh , Bradley Bethel...
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"...but you're probably right about senior-level administrators having wanted to hide what we do. but they didn't want to hide what we do because what we do is wrong. they wanted to hide it because it reveals there are underprepared students at unc.[/B] We have heard more than one administrator tell us that we don't have "underprepared" students here--there may be struggling students, but not underprepared students. That's why there are no study skills courses offered at unc: unc students don't need them. After I was interviewed by The Chronicle a year and a half ago, I was called into an office and specifically told I should not talk about "underprepared" students at unc."[/I]

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After Wainstein report, unc-CH ax falls slowly


As soon as Kenneth Wainstein released his report about academic misconduct at unc-Chapel Hill in October, it was clear Jan Boxill was in trouble.


Sure enough, Chancellor Carol Folt last week acknowledged that the university began proceedings to dismiss Boxill the same day.


Boxill will be the most significant academic official fired, if her appeal is denied. A senior lecturer in the Philosophy Department, she was faculty chairwoman for three years. She also has a strong interest in sports and helping underprivileged students, which led her to serve for 20 years as an academic counselor for the women's basketball team.


It's possible to help too much. An academic counselor or tutor is not allowed to write any part of a paper, provide research materials or contribute notes for a student's assignment.


Wainstein, the former federal prosecutor hired by unc to investigate questionable academic practices, particularly involving athletes, uncovered evidence that rules were sometimes broken, and Boxill was one of the people who crossed the line.


The biggest finding was that, for nearly 20 years, students were allowed to enroll in "paper classes" in the Department of African and Afro-American Studies, where they could receive good grades for doing virtually no work. Boxill encouraged athletes to take those courses and on a couple of documented occasions suggested what grade they needed or should get to Deborah Crowder, the person who administered them.


Crowder retired in 2009. Department Chairman Julius Nyang'oro is also gone. They were the principal figures in designing, or allowing, the sham courses. Faculty member Timothy McMillan resigned in October rather than contest a dismissal notice. Boxill, with a lesser role, is one of the few people who could still be held accountable.


Perhaps for that reason, the university was reluctant to reveal its personnel actions. It claimed it had to wait until appeals were exhausted - an interpretation of law not used by uncG when it fired employees in its University Relations Department. It took a lawsuit by media organizations to spur a change of heart in Chapel Hill. The parties negotiated a settlement that included release of information about Boxill and McMillan. The disclosure was meant to protect the integrity of the university, Folt said.


Not released were the names of six more employees unc says may face disciplinary actions after their cases are reviewed. Two others were dismissed earlier.


That's not many people held responsible for a long-running and deeply corrupt academic charade that involved thousands of students - some of whom received help to illegitimately maintain their eligibility to compete in intercollegiate athletics. But Wainstein himself laid the lion's share of the blame at the feet of just two people - Crowder and Nyang'oro.


From the time information about the scandal began to emerge in 2011, the university had failed to disclose everything it could as soon as it could. It is still working that way. So, even now, there is still more to learn.

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From back in May. B-Rad doin' work...
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APR: Duke No. 1 in ACC football, basketball; unc last


Duke led all ACC football and men's basketball teams while North carolina was last in the conference in the two major sports in the latest four-year Academic Progress Rate scores, which were released by the NCAA on Wednesday.

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Still employed...and teaching...an "Ethics" course , of all things. Ya can't make this stuff up...
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PHIL 266.001 - Ethics of SportText:


Instructor: Jan Boxill. This course meets on Tuesdays and Thursdays from 11:00 a.m. - 12:15 p.m. in Caldwell 213.

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Those recently released e-mails are so devastating to B-Rad I had assumed they were released by Jay Smith. Nope. In his most recent blog post , B-Rad added them. Clearly , he hadn't read ALL of 'em. Not in awhile anyway. The following entries tell the tale.
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Posted: Today 9:46 AM


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unc didn't release those emails. Jay Smith kept them and published them.


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Bradley released the e-mails...not Jay Smith. The e-mails are in a link in Bradley's latest blog entry (last sentence in the blog). Jay shared the the e-mail link only.


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Why would he do that


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Because he's too stupid to remember what he wrote back in the very beginning and he was too lazy to go back and read them all before he linked them. He probably "knee jerked" on something in particular that Smith wrote that he wanted to get out there and didn't think to read through them as he should have... kind of like unc did with the Wainstein attachments.


In other words... he's not nearly as bright as he thinks he is.



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Sample question for Carol Folt when interviewing for the chancellor gig at unx: "Any experience dealing with "Ethics" professors who offer sham courses that assure athletic eligibilty?" Folt: "Damn skippy!"
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Dozens Of Dartmouth Students Suspended For Cheating In Ethics Class Designed For Athletes

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In the final days of a football recruiting "dead period." No visits to prospect's school , no visits to the prospect outside of his school and the prospect can't visit the college or meet with coaches. Should be getting an official announcement from unx about their exhaustive "vetting" process for Chizik any day now...
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It's Long Past Time for unc To Forfeit Games


unc's failure to forfeit the games involving players who maintained eligibility by taking fake classes is further evidence that Big Time revenue sports harm universities. The university's motto, lux et libertas ("light and liberty"), is a powerful metaphor for the core value of honesty or integrity. Without honesty, the entire knowledge-producing architecture of universities collapses in a heap. Without honesty, the "unwavering commitment to excellence" expressed in unc's mission statement is meaningless. Taking the initiative to forfeit these tainted games would be an acknowledgment of the wrong-doing, and more importantly a strong statement from unc leaders that the University's educational mission supersedes wins and losses in sports.

Lew Margolis is Associate Professor of Maternal and Child Health in the Gillings School of Global Public Health at the University of North Carolina.

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It is nice to be able to read this free board along with the Wolfpacker pay board and realize how much they compliment and validate each other regarding the Cheats scandal. I hope that the forth coming book by JS and MW will attract the national audience and review that it deserves.
 
That book , "Cheated" , is slated for release in March ( there's an NCAA tourney of some kind being played that month...so I hear anyway ) and will likely throw a big turd in the punch bowl normally known as "March Madness." True , it'll decry the exploitation of "amateur" athletics and the NCAA's complicity , but unx will be the poster-child. This may be the one time I hope those cheating eff-tards make it to the post-season. I expect Mary and Jay to "name names." I also expect it to be devastating to unx. Whether anyone will do anything about it is another issue. That said...




Mary Willingham ‏@paperclassinc


It's Long Past Time for unc To Forfeit Games http://chapelboro.com/columns/the-commenta...me-unc-forfeit-


Judge Bob Orr ‏@JudgeBobOrr


@paperclassinc Forfeiting games is a meaningless gesture. Forfeiting $$ earned to provide educational reparations would be more meaningful.


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why not both?


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@JudgeBobOrr @paperclassinc The article hinges on UNC taking responsibility & self imposing a measure of forfeiture. Not holding my breath


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@JudgeBobOrr @paperclassinc Million$ have been spent on diminishing scandal, PR. unc proven that protecting wins/banners>academic rep or $$. Winning games=motivation to cheat. $=byproduct. To diminish culture of "win at any cost", games must be forfeit


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@JudgeBobOrr @paperclassinc Fire those on UNC staff that benefited professionally & financially from bogus eligibility the last 19 yrs.


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@JudgeBobOrr @paperclassinc if it's so meaningless why is unc so corrupt in its refusal to do so?


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@Dpanther12 @JudgeBobOrr @MikeYorke1 @BDevilU1 Agreed all around. $ returned is meaningless w/out wins vacated & firings...starting with Roy


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@BDevilU1 @JudgeBobOrr @paperclassinc Always seeking what's the bare minimum to reclaim lost honor is hoping to have minimal honor.


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@J0bangles @DevilDJ32 @BDevilU1 @JudgeBobOrr @paperclassinc Forfeiting wins isn't punishment, it's setting the record straight.

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A New Kind Of Play For unc Athletes


By Bradley Bethel


Dave Navalinsky, an assistant professor of Dramatic Arts at unc, grew concerned when he realized the student-athletes he taught were feeling stigmatized by the negative press the past few years. So he did what we would expect a drama professor to do: he wrote a play about it.


At 6'9", Navalinsky stands taller than even most college basketball players. One may therefore assume he was a basketball star himself and thus has an affinity for athletes. However, that is not the case at all.


"My student-athlete career-if you could call it that-ended it 8th grade with a record of about 12 - 1000. Most, if not all, those few wins were on the 8th-grade basketball team, and I rarely played," he joked during an interview.


After high school, Navalinsky started taking classes at Lorain Community College, in Ohio, without knowing what he wanted to do with his life. He was working lighting for a local band, when he learned his college offered a class on stage lighting. Surprised to find a class that aligned so well with his talents, he enrolled and then discovered a stagecraft class, which also interested him. Not long after, he transferred to Baldwin Wallace and completed a degree in stagecraft, with an emphasis on lighting design.


Eventually, Navalinsky also completed an MFA in technical direction and went on to teach at the University of Mississippi and then at the University of Texas at Arlington. He came to unc in 2011 to become the Director of Undergraduate Production and teach the introductory stagecraft class.


"This is the first place where I've taught pretty much exclusively non-[theater] majors, and so I'm used to really knowing my students," he explained, "Even though most of the students in my class now are not majors, they're still my students, and they're still precious to me."


Navalinsky's relationships with some of the student-athletes in his classes allowed him to see their frustration with the media's sensationalism and the resulting stereotyping they experienced, and their frustration ultimately compelled him to write his new play. "Other people talking about my students and messing with my students was unacceptable," he asserted.


Still a work in progress, "Priceless Gem: An Athlete Story" was made possible by a $4,000 junior faculty grant he won in December 2013. After the IRB approved him to carry out research involving human subjects, Navalinsky spent four months conducting interviews with over thirty athletes from almost all of unc's varsity sports. Two assistants/co-writers then helped him create four composite characters based on the anonymous interview transcripts.


"Priceless Gem" begins with a soliloquy from Jason, a football player. "There is more to us than just playing on Saturdays," he exclaims. Over the course of the approximately one-hour play, he and the three other athletes endeavor to articulate what that "more" really is. They reflect on the challenges and privileges of being a student-athlete at unc today, in the wake of the recent controversies. At its most heartbreaking moments, the play depicts the student-athletes' lamentations on the increased stereotyping they now face.


"People think, like, if you're a good athlete, then you're not that smart. But I actually enjoy learning," Jaimie, a women's basketball player, tells us. Later in the play, she reveals, "When I'm in a classroom for the first time, I almost want to prove myself, or prove to other people, I can read - better than a 4th-grader."


Marcus, a swimmer, affirms Jamie's sentiments and recalls being subjected to students' joking about athletes' illiteracy. "It just creates that stigma that typical athletes aren't that smart," he bemoans.


Although the play involves little action, "Priceless Gem" maintains viewers' attention by baring the four athletes' emotions and thoughts, as the athletes express their struggles to be "just like any other college student" while at the same time occupying prominent positions on campus. By providing that lens into the student-athlete experience, Navalinsky has made a valuable contribution to the public discussion over the role of athletics in higher education


"Priceless Gem" unquestionably accomplishes the goal Navalinsky set for the play. "As I was reading things in the newspaper, the student-athletes' voice was the one voice I wasn't hearing," he explained, "and I thought I could use theater to help provide that voice."


Pathetic and transparent. Theatrical version of parading a few "Marcus Paige-types" in front of the unx Board of Trustees to "prove"
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This post was edited on 1/11 1:47 PM by DevilDJ

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DevilDJ what is your best estimate when the NCAA will make an announcement?
 
Here's the thing. After the first time , all bets are off. Think about it. The violations discovered THEN were "Death Penalty"-worthy and those only involved their Mickey Mouse , nationally-irrelevant football program. At the time , I recall thinking unx would get draconian sanctions because even the NCAA doesn't give 2 sheets about tarhole football. Plus , the investigation , like now , dragged on. Takes all of 2 seconds to look at the football violations and decide what's an appropriate punishment. The NCAA took forever so ya had to figure...why is this taking so long EXCEPT the NCAA is evaluating even MORE dirt than initially uncovered? We saw what happened. Virtually nothing. Wrist-slap. Now , Emmert's latest comments suggest he's sympathetic to unx. BTW , I wonder how sympathetic he'd be to some small school or mid-major who his organization was investigating for the SECOND time in 4 years?!?! But I digress. The NCAA has shown they're more than happy to let others do the heavy lifting , investigation-wise , before ruling. Also , and it's no conspiracy theory , unx and the NCAA are tight. Vince Ille , Jackie Thurnes , Marcus Wilson...these are folks with legit ties to both the school AND the NCAA. unx alum Bob Lee has written that some wealthy tarhole alums are amassing a "war chest" to fight any sanctions deemed too severe. That said , I think a ruling won't be until after the season. Even a wrist-slap announcement would dampen the party if it came during the post-season games. And while the NCAA has often appeared clueless , they gotta know "Cheated" is coming out and there's no tellin' what Dan Kane , Sara Ganim , Rand Getlin , Paul Barrett et al are still sittin' on. Emmert has to know if unx is again given a pass only to be slapped with more evidence of egregious wrong-doing after such a ruling , the NCAA becomes a bigger joke than they already are.
 
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