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This guy named Kevin Durant was pretty damn good...
I knew there was one obvious one I was forgetting.
Zion was still better.
I'd rate Battier ahead of Durant, not because he's a better pure player but the combination of his all-around game (very good offensive player and an astoundingly good defensive player, huge edge there over Durant) plus his senior year accomplishments.
Good list.Best college player of the last 20 years.
You could argue we have 4 of the Top 5 players of the last 20 years.
Battier, Williams, Redick, Williamson, and Anthony Davis? Who am I forgetting?
Won a Championship in his one seasonCarmelo was pretty dang good too
I think you have to have Carmelo on there somewhere.If we're taking one individual season, I might go with this:
1st Team
Kemba Walker, UConn (2011)
JJ Redick, Duke (2006)
Kevin Durant, Texas (2007)
Zion Williamson, Duke (2019)
Anthony Davis, Kentucky (2012)
2nd Team
Jimmer Fredette, BYU (2011)
Buddy Hield, Oklahoma (2016)
Doug McDermott, Creighton (2014)
Shane Battier, Duke (2001)
Blake Griffin, Oklahoma (2009)
3rd Team
Jason Williams, Duke (2002)
Denzel Valentine, Michigan State (2016)
Evan Turner, Ohio State (2010)
David West, Xavier (2003)
Tyler Hansbrough, UNC (2008)
I think you have to have Carmelo on there somewhere.
Not a bad list but JJ Reddick?
Not a bad list but JJ Reddick?
Not a bad list but JJ Reddick?
In the MSG parking lot sill waiting on Little to get drafted.Where’s big Luke Maye?
If we're taking one individual season, I might go with this:
1st Team
Kemba Walker, UConn (2011)
JJ Redick, Duke (2006)
Kevin Durant, Texas (2007)
Zion Williamson, Duke (2019)
Anthony Davis, Kentucky (2012)
2nd Team
Jimmer Fredette, BYU (2011)
Buddy Hield, Oklahoma (2016)
Doug McDermott, Creighton (2014)
Shane Battier, Duke (2001)
Blake Griffin, Oklahoma (2009)
3rd Team
Jason Williams, Duke (2002)
Denzel Valentine, Michigan State (2016)
Evan Turner, Ohio State (2010)
David West, Xavier (2003)
Tyler Hansbrough, UNC (2008)
Good list overall but I can't have Jay Williams that low. I know I'm biased but I'd take him over Walker on the first team.
Hell I'd take a sophomore Jay Williams over Walker. Battier won every major national player of the year award in 2001, except one... the NABC player of the year. That one went to Williams. Even the coaches knew how outstanding he was as a sophomore.
He was also a two-time consensus first-team all-american.
One of the worst championship games I’ve seen. Kansas shot 4-20 on threes and 12-30 on FT. Still only lost by 3 points. 31 assists to 35 turnovers overall. Cuse shot 42% on 2-pointers (11-18 on threes won it).Won a Championship in his one season
^ And I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone carry his team as much as Kemba Walker carried UConn in 2011.
If we're taking one individual season, I might go with this:
1st Team
Kemba Walker, UConn (2011)
JJ Redick, Duke (2006)
Kevin Durant, Texas (2007)
Zion Williamson, Duke (2019)
Anthony Davis, Kentucky (2012)
2nd Team
Jimmer Fredette, BYU (2011)
Buddy Hield, Oklahoma (2016)
Doug McDermott, Creighton (2014)
Shane Battier, Duke (2001)
Blake Griffin, Oklahoma (2009)
3rd Team
Jason Williams, Duke (2002)
Denzel Valentine, Michigan State (2016)
Evan Turner, Ohio State (2010)
David West, Xavier (2003)
Tyler Hansbrough, UNC (2008)
There have been 29 players win the NPOY this century, if you include the award winners from Naismith, Wooden, AP, NABC, and Sporting News. TSN was the only major publication to even have Carmelo as a 1st Team All-American. He was a 2nd Team All-American by everyone else. He was a great offensive threat - and he had a heckuva tournament in 2003. But he did not have one of the top 15 seasons this century. IMO. His shooting percentages actually weren't that great, to be honest.
The inherent problem with using NPOY, AA, etc awards is that those awards are voted on before the end of the season, sometimes before the beginning of postseason. Where would Carmelo have been rated on April 15, 2003 as opposed to March 15, 2003?
Consider the case of Ralph Sampson. He was three-time national POY. Three times. That would put him the discussion for best college player ever.
But when we factor in his relative lack of post-season success after those awards were voted on, I don't think anyone would have Sampson up with Alcindor/Jabbar, Walton, Thompson, Bird, Magic Johnson, Robertson, Hayes, Jerry Lucas, Christian Laettner or many others who did have significant post-season success.
And then we have to consider the difficulty of comparing OADs like Anthony, Durant, Davis and Williamson to multi-year players like Redick or Fredette.
So, it's fun. But defining the parameters is a bit tricky. Devil, details and all that.
I feel ya, I told my wife that last night at supper. For some reason it's just doesn't seem right. I'm sure once C2C starts I'll get excited....I hopeZion may have ruined college basketball for me, ya'll. I'm still not as excited for the season to start as I usually am by this point.
Will this help any lol?I feel ya, I told my wife that last night at supper. For some reason it's just doesn't seem right. I'm sure once C2C starts I'll get excited....I hope
Glad to see Zion back at Duke, hanging with the team!
Can you imagine taking a charge from him...