The off-season greatest hits- what do you for a living?
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Tell me you have no self-awareness without telling me you have no self-awareness.
27 3/8 years
You mad that people are waking up and growing tired of your grooming tactics?Tell me you have no self-awareness without telling me you have no self-awareness.
27 3/8 years
Enjoying my final summer in San Diego. Moving to Berlin early 2024. I was born in Polska and I'm in my 30's still single like a number of my bros. Sister started a family in Berlin 10 years ago, I'm gonna help my folks sell their home and we are returning to Europa. I've been to Berlin a handful of times in the past 15 years but not likely that's where I set my roots. I work in IT.
We moved to USA in the late 1980s. I'm meh bout the direction of the culture & society but ultimately want to reconnect with family.
We moved to USA in the late 1980s. I'm meh bout the direction of the culture & society but ultimately want to reconnect with family.
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Just out of curiosity, what is your understanding of what socialism actually is. OFC
Simply speaking, it's an economic and political system favoring public/common ownership over private ownership as the path to greater equity. It's more nuanced and diverse than that, but that's a starting point. I think most of us here would agree that that shouldn't apply to home ownership, but should apply to fire departments, for example.
The government takes an active role in the economy. That alone should scare you. Like everyone else, government employees tend to act in their own self interest. It's human nature.
In addition, you can expect higher tax rates designed to redistribute income to nonworkers. This is a problem to the extent that people prefer sucking on the government teat vs. working a job.
I technically am a government employee and I started to take offense to this. Then I realized that if I didn't get paid, I wouldn't do it. So maybe I am acting in my own self interest.
Don't all governments take some active role in the economy?
On average, the poor work more hours in more physically demanding jobs than the wealthy. On average, they are working jobs -- plural -- but still need the, uh... "government teat." This is a much more common reality than Reagan's mythologized "welfare queen."
So, what differentiates entities which should be owned by the government from those which may be owned and operated privately? Does it matter that it has been demostrated time and again that governments prove to be incapable of properly and efficiently operating or managing many assets entrusted to them such as the public school systems in many areas, Rykers Island, the Postal Service, Social Security, public universities. Is it possible that private business could do a better job of managing some traditional government functions? Does it matter to you that Government-run entities often appear to be motivated by political biases instead of achieving "greater equity", i.e. the FBI and Department of Justice? How can there be "greater" equity if equity is alread present? Equal = equal. Can't get more equal than that. OFC
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Hang on. Your question was about what my understanding of socialism is. I answered that. I included that I was offering a simple definition, that it was more complex, and that there are different types of socialism.
For the record, my response about my job was a joke, half self-deprecating, half satirizing what some conservatives think I do.
Application and outcomes and opinions are all different things from what you asked. In anticipation that it might slide into those discussions, I offered a pretty basic example where I trust almost everyone -- including you and I -- agrees: home ownership should be private (not socialism); fire departments should be public (socialism). I don't have much hope for even being heard on some of the bigger, more complicated areas where I may lean more toward socialism than you (nothing personal, just the trend), so let's stick w/ something that basic. I am in favor of privately owned homes and other property. Are you in favor of certain publicly owned assets, such as fire departments?
Is this just a critique of how I wrote it? That I should have just said "...toward equity"? Fine.
My bad. I took your quip about being a "socialism indoctrination coordinator" as just a funny way of confirming progressive political and social leanings. So, if you do not favor socialism over capitalism, you may ignore my post if you have not already done so. OFC
I think , from what I have read, that the goal of socialism is no longer to creats equality of wealth through redistribution of assets, but instead is to create equality of opportunity. OFC
Well, no, I definitely lean toward socialism and have severe criticism of how our country currently practices capitalism. It's just that that wasn't the subject and I know how quickly these conversations can go off the rails. If I'm getting pushback on a basic academic definition and a really basic example of a way even conservatives are okay w/ socialism, I don't see any point trying to get into it any deeper than that.
Did you mean equality of outcome? That's the criticism often directed at socialism/progressivism. Equal opportunity seems like it would be an ideal for all fair-minded people across the political spectrum, however unrealistic it may be.
I greatly prefer the word "equity" to "equality" in these conversations. Too often, "equality" is interpreted like mathematical equality -- sameness -- while "equity" gets at the issue of fairness more accurately.
Your use of the words is correct. What might be equal for some may not necessarily be equitable for them. Equity, by its nature, is an amorphous term. In a legal context, for an end result to be equitable, the law will consider not only what was achieved but also how it was achieved; and the "how" may be more important than the "what". Given that, the other problem with "equity" is that it is totally subjective and unmeasurable. OFC
Part time job now. I'm a pain in the ass to my wife. 😊 OFC
Leave it to an OF to actually stick to the topic. Well done, Sky. Your wife, and mine, are going straight to heaven...non-stop.
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It has been my experience the ones who shout "child groomer" are the ones to be actual groomers...
That may be the dumbest post I’ve read to date. Congrats. Now get back to supporting those who take minors to drag strip shows
Scroll to 1:52 - let me guess…..sattire? I get it, you may be homosexual, but would you be good if I took a minor to a hetero strip club? I wouldn’t, and I’m straight as they come. It’s gone too far, but you keep drinking the kool-aid of your party.
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He’s more similar to a catholic priest out of the V@tican.
Ahhh, you’re a Leftist. How do I know? You went right to politics, feebly calling out the other “half”. Well done again - you’re on a roll of idiocy this morning 😂. If you want to continue this, pop over to the Lounge where I’ll gladly light you up like a Christmas tree 😘
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I wholeheartedly agree with the Lounge suggestion.
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chemical processors I turn beer into piss.
Actually I am a libertarian lean republican (but old school republican). I just find it ironic the politicians and people who clutch their pearls over the idea of goverment making a business be forced to not discriminate and make a wedding cake (which by the way, i side with business on because i feel we should let natural capitalistic forces take care of businesses) also are the ones who want to ban private businesses from hosting drag brunches, have vaccine/mask mandates, etc... All those "free market" politicians that want to tell a private business they cannot fire people because they would not get a vaccine? Guess what, those people were not forced? They had a choice. A person with a gun to their head has a choice not to listen. They might not like the end result, but they have a choice.
As for the republican politician/groomer comment, Dat made a joke and then you immediately went to groomer. I then went where i did because it is republicans throwing around groomer but it has been clearly shown that when you hear about politicians grooming, the vast majority of times it is Republicans (Dennis Hastert, Lauren Boebert's husband, Matt Gaetz, That former high profile texas politician who railed against grooming but then plied an intern with liquor and slept with a young intern, Tim Nolan, Mark Foley, Robert Bauman, etc...).
And do not even get me started on the sheer ignorance displayed in the socialism/ capitalism talk. All of you that hate socialism at all costs, I hope you do not accept SSI, Medicare, and against everything such as farm subsidies and corporate welfare.
And as a gay man, heaven forbid a group of people want to live their lives without discrimination based on who they happen to sleep with...
You’re not conservative, you’ve already displayed that, and also note I’m far from a Republican.
Yes I called Datt a groomer - but hey, you go ahead and selectively cite his posts lol.
Please don’t cite “mask mandates” as masks are absolutely clinically useless against sars co v 2, but you appear to like to follow the gov and their narratives. It’s scary how economically challenged you seem to be, but I’ll leave that alone. I’m one of those “greedy” multimillionaire “capitalists” you and @eldritchorifice despise so much.
Lastly, your last statement isn’t what we are talking about. You want to engage in acts that bacteria-ridden? Dude, do it, that’s your freedom. My issue is with your posse targeting kids, you know, in the examples you selectively ignored above…..apparently you don’t have the courage to stand up with others who want to protect the innocence of children. Sad.
****I am done on this thread - go to the Lounge if you would like to continue****
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Just remember to stay away from rock n roll. It is the devil's music and will turn us all into devil worshipping adults.
I don’t remember rockers walking naked in the streets chanting they want kids. Well “legally” at least. Lol.
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