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That’s a difference we’ve noted on this board before. My dad loves Fox News but knows the nighttime hosts are in the tank for Trump and are partisan hacks. I’ll watch if the guests are strong. He likes the more news oriented daytime shows. Liberals still think Cnn and the major networks are unbiased and credible. They’ve been Dem Party operatives for decades and it got worse when their Savior came down in 08.
I’ve always wondered when the change started. Like when did CNN essentially become a part of the Dem Party? Well 95% of msm actually. Any thoughts? I know the media has been lying for decades. I just don’t know when it transitioned from giving information that they thought was accurate to knowingly giving inaccurate information.
 
Here we have our resident limp wrist, @Dattier, telling @KDSTONE and me our sources are wrong, and his are right. The same sources that lied about Covid, Jan 6th, Hunter, his dad, Kamala…

And Wiley Coyote only wanted to be friends with the Roadrunner.
You’ve been spot on in your past remarks that when his argument is going sideways he’ll either go low or change the subject entirely.
Notice how he ignored or you might say evaded my post about Mohamed Khalil since Datt, along with the msm, was trying to make a free speech martyr out of this budding terrorist.
Not only has he been in direct contact with Hamas, it’s looking more and more like Hamas has funded many of the “protests” around the country.
How embarrassing
 
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Never deserved a statue to begin with.

He’s no hero. He became the martyr for a sick , twisted pol movement that depends on hatred and division to get people to the polls. That’s all they got All of their policies have failed. Our educational system is one of the worst in the Western world. Not only can’t little Johnnie read, he can’t math so good either and he has been taught to think the world is an evil place that’s out to get him
A world where terrorists are now “ freedom fighters” and successful capitalists are now Nazis
 
This. But I don’t even think he believes half the stuff he types. It’s just that he is in so deep, he has to argue in bad faith to stick to the script. It’s not a Dat thing though, it’s the ideology of the left. I’ve seen the media convince these people over the last 10 years that men can be women and vice versa. I’m 100% sure they don’t actually believe this, but again, they have to stick to whatever the current msm script is.
It’s a cynical approach the Left takes. Many know that the trans stuff is hogwash, but are afraid of the Woke wrath if they speak out, but also know there are enough of them out there to swing a tight election. Thankfully, they seem to congregate in Cal and NY disproportionately due to indoctrination by the Hollywood and Marxist types like Cynthia Nixon who ignorantly claims that half the people she knows are trans as if it’s organic and not due to social contagion thanks to Froot Loops like her
 
I’ve always wondered when the change started. Like when did CNN essentially become a part of the Dem Party? Well 95% of msm actually. Any thoughts? I know the media has been lying for decades. I just don’t know when it transitioned from giving information that they thought was accurate to knowingly giving inaccurate information.
I remember them not covering stories that were unfavorable to Obama, like his affinity for the Weather Underground and that preacher he liked who was always saying sh- about the chickens coming home to roost, can’t remember his name, but can’t remember the straight up fabrication and myth making that we saw re: Hunter’s laptop, Russia hoax, and the Jan 6 lies. Like you said, it’s clearly getting worse
 
I gave up replying to Dat a month ago. He’s brainwashed and very stubborn. You could tell him water is wet and he would come up with an explanation of how it’s a lie and that it’s dry. I don’t care for any politicians, but the Republicans do align closer to my values than the Democrats. The biggest difference between both parties is that the Republicans can see through the BS that the political parties spew on both sides. Fox News was saying yesterday how gas prices are lower and the price of eggs has gone down. I haven’t noticed either of those to be true.
That’s how powerful the msm is. They were able to turn a hardened criminal into a hero.
Exactly. I remember my MIL (82 years old at the time), talking about his funeral. She literally thought it was for someone of royalty. I jokingly said that funeral was for King George.
 
I remember them not covering stories that were unfavorable to Obama, like his affinity for the Weather Underground and that preacher he liked who was always saying sh- about the chickens coming home to roost, can’t remember his name, but can’t remember the straight up fabrication and myth making that we saw re: Hunter’s laptop, Russia hoax, and the Jan 6 lies. Like you said, it’s clearly getting worse
We've said it before, that when you have big pharma, big tech, and other power players, making huge donations to certain outlets, they have bought (and controlled) what gets said. The best example I know off the top of my head is the awful, and dishonest coverage of Covid and the vaccines. Two things happened during that time that were criminal, which is why so many that leaned right of center were outraged. First, mental health issues skyrocketed. The other one was even worse, which is people died. They intentionally withheld valuable information from the public. Information that could have saved lives. But they were so into pushing the vaccine down everyone's throat. At the expense of lives, and so they could increase their wealth. They don't give 2 shits about any of us, which makes it worse when arguing with hacks like @Dattier. He refuses to even consider this, much less agree with us.

The lust for $$ is eroding our world. We see it in sports too.
 
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We've said it before, that when you have big pharma, big tech, and other power players, making huge donations to certain outlets, they have bought (and controlled) what gets said. The best example I know off the top of my head is the awful, and dishonest coverage of Covid and the vaccines. Two things happened during that time that were criminal, which is why so many that leaned right of center were outraged. First, mental health issues skyrocketed. The other one was even worse, which is people died. They intentionally withheld valuable information from the public. Information that could have saved lives. But they were so into pushing the vaccine down everyone's throat. At the expense of lives, and so they could increase their wealth. They don't give 2 shits about any of us, which makes it worse when arguing with hacks like @Dattier. He refuses to even consider this, much less agree with us.

The lust for $$ is eroding our world. We see it in sports too.
And the teacher unions knew full well of the learning loss and increased risks of depression and suicide linked with school shutdowns and shut them down anyway for over a year, even though mounting evidence showed that children were at very little risk of serious complications from Covid
 
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This. But I don’t even think he believes half the stuff he types. It’s just that he is in so deep, he has to argue in bad faith to stick to the script. It’s not a Dat thing though, it’s the ideology of the left. I’ve seen the media convince these people over the last 10 years that men can be women and vice versa. I’m 100% sure they don’t actually believe this, but again, they have to stick to whatever the current msm script is.
🤣 ^This child thinks he knows what everyone else thinks.
 
Exactly. I remember my MIL (82 years old at the time), talking about his funeral. She literally thought it was for someone of royalty. I jokingly said that funeral was for King George.

At a time where thousands of people were losing loved ones and weren't even allowed to hold services, this guy got paraded around the country like he was Abraham Lincoln and had THREE services with hundreds of people gathering. Such a joke.
 
Never deserved a statue to begin with.

Meh. The statues are meant to memorialize the injustice of his murder, but I can see how conservative, police brutality apologists could be bamboozled into thinking they're about idolizing the way he lived his life. It's an easier thing to accept toward the all-important goal of feeling superior. Kinda like the way the other conservatives here (not you) like to claim they know what I think.
 
I'm the only one here in a teachers' union. Don't tell me what we knew. You have no clue. You don't have a clue, but you have the audacity.
You knew the same thing the whole world knew at that point: school shutdowns were harmful to kids, far outweighing the risks of contracting Covid
There’s a clue for you
 
Meh. The statues are meant to memorialize the injustice of his murder, but I can see how conservative, police brutality apologists could be bamboozled into thinking they're about idolizing the way he lived his life. It's an easier thing to accept toward the all-important goal of feeling superior. Kinda like the way the other conservatives here (not you) like to claim they know what I think.
Interesting.
 
That link came up as "forbidden 401" for me. Everything else I've found says she posted a video or appeared in a video where others were chanting it. And I found an explanation she offered of it, just like that link I provided yesterday said: "[The slogan is a] call for freedom, human rights, and peaceful coexistence, not death, destruction, or hate." Is it possible that people who truly do want to destroy Israel would claim that's what it means? Of course. Is it possibly an accurate meaning for some who use it? Also of course. Between the absolute nature of your interpretation on the one hand, and sources that acknowledge your interpretation and identify other interpretations on the other hand, I'll take the latter all freakin day every day. But call me a sheep for seeing more than just a single alarmist, emotional, dramatic, extremist interpretation.

I told you yesterday: You will get nowhere with me trying to sell extremist propaganda as objective truth.
 
That link came up as "forbidden 401" for me. Everything else I've found says she posted a video or appeared in a video where others were chanting it. And I found an explanation she offered of it, just like that link I provided yesterday said: "[The slogan is a] call for freedom, human rights, and peaceful coexistence, not death, destruction, or hate." Is it possible that people who truly do want to destroy Israel would claim that's what it means? Of course. Is it possibly an accurate meaning for some who use it? Also of course. Between the absolute nature of your interpretation on the one hand, and sources that acknowledge your interpretation and identify other interpretations on the other hand, I'll take the latter all freakin day every day. But call me a sheep for seeing more than just a single alarmist, emotional, dramatic, extremist interpretation.

I told you yesterday: You will get nowhere with me trying to sell extremist propaganda as objective truth.
Because you don’t like what the chant means, that it doesn’t fit the narrative that you support anti- war activists not genicidal antisemites, doesn’t mean that you get to change the universally accepted meaning of the chant.
Go to the nearest pro- Pally “protest” and ask them what it means to them. Ask them which river, which sea they’re referring to.
You’ll quickly see the level of hate and ignorance you have chosen to associate with.
Question: why were demonstrations for a ceasefire occurring on Oct 8 before Israel even retaliated? Why were they vilifying Israel immediately after the most brutal terror attack in Israel’s history?
 
We've said it before, that when you have big pharma, big tech, and other power players, making huge donations to certain outlets, they have bought (and controlled) what gets said. The best example I know off the top of my head is the awful, and dishonest coverage of Covid and the vaccines. Two things happened during that time that were criminal, which is why so many that leaned right of center were outraged. First, mental health issues skyrocketed. The other one was even worse, which is people died. They intentionally withheld valuable information from the public. Information that could have saved lives. But they were so into pushing the vaccine down everyone's throat. At the expense of lives, and so they could increase their wealth. They don't give 2 shits about any of us, which makes it worse when arguing with hacks like @Dattier. He refuses to even consider this, much less agree with us.

The lust for $$ is eroding our world. We see it in sports too.
Says the guy throating Walmart, savior of his community. 🤣
Lemme guess: the money problems you see in sports are with the greedy, greedy athletes, not the billionaire owners waiting to run a train on you once Walmart finishes.
 
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Even on Wiki the phrase is described as being in Hamas’ charter. Referring to one Arab state in the region, replacing Israel. Well, actually another Arab state since Jordan is three times the size of Israel and majority Palestinian.
But please continue to tell me that suggesting the phrase has sinister intent is “extremist propaganda”.
 
Says the guy throating Walmart, savior of his community. 🤣
Lemme guess: the money problems you see in sports are with the greedy, greedy athletes, not the billionaire owners waiting to run a train on you once Walmart finishes.
“Strange words come on out of a grown man’s mouth when his mind’s broke” Zach Bryan
 
You knew the same thing the whole world knew at that point: school shutdowns were harmful to kids, far outweighing the risks of contracting Covid
There’s a clue for you
It's easier for you to accept that teachers -- who accepted teachers' salaries to educate the future -- don't care about kids' safety than that there were complicated, conflicting views out there.

This is exactly what I'm talking about when I call you out for extremism, absolutism, complete vilification, and illogical lies... but I'm the brainwashed sheep.

Sheep don't like complexity. They like single explanations and simplicity that doesn't make them think too hard. Have I denied that "river to the sea" has antisemitic applications? Have I defended George Floyd's life choices? Am I invalidating your views as a piece of a greater puzzle? No, no, and no. That's what you do. But call me the sheep.
 
“Strange words come on out of a grown man’s mouth when his mind’s broke” Zach Bryan
Ah, yes, country music singers are quotable experts, but not scientists and people who actually study the very thing they're talking about.

Here, I'll use easier words: @Mac9192 defends Walmart for providing jobs in his community, but then rants about the corruption of money without the slightest irony or humility. He's a joke, a blowhard, a sheep, just like you.
 
It's easier for you to accept that teachers -- who accepted teachers' salaries to educate the future -- don't care about kids' safety than that there were complicated, conflicting views out there.

This is exactly what I'm talking about when I call you out for extremism, absolutism, complete vilification, and illogical lies... but I'm the brainwashed sheep.

Sheep don't like complexity. They like single explanations and simplicity that doesn't make them think too hard. Have I denied that "river to the sea" has antisemitic applications? Have I defended George Floyd's life choices? Am I invalidating your views as a piece of a greater puzzle? No, no, and no. That's what you do. But call me the sheep.
You said that Tlaib never said it.
So she was censured by the House for NOT saying it. Gotcha
 
Here we have our resident limp wrist, @Dattier, telling @KDSTONE and me our sources are wrong, and his are right. The same sources that lied about Covid, Jan 6th, Hunter, his dad, Kamala…

And Wiley Coyote only wanted to be friends with the Roadrunner.
Ooh! You managed to slur the mentally ill and be homophobic all within 24 hours! Good job, mac!

What sources are you claiming are mine? I posted some msm links yesterday for the sole purpose of exposing your ignorance about what msm had covered. The difference here is that I don't just claim your sources are crap. I break them down and prove it, after which you whine about how I'm nitpicking. You can't even name any of my go-to sources.
 
You said that Tlaib never said it.
So she was censured by the House for NOT saying it. Gotcha
I told you: I get a "forbidden 401" code for the link you posted and saw elsewhere that she was associated with it, not that she had said it directly. And I found a defense she made of the saying, which I've already explained. Some Dems voted to censure her; some GOP did not. It passed. She was censured. She was censured by the same institution that impeached President Trump twice... but those were political witchhunts and Rep Tlaib's censure was legit. :rolleyes: A simple summary of all 3, says the sheep.
 
You’ve been spot on in your past remarks that when his argument is going sideways he’ll either go low or change the subject entirely.
Notice how he ignored or you might say evaded my post about Mohamed Khalil since Datt, along with the msm, was trying to make a free speech martyr out of this budding terrorist.
Not only has he been in direct contact with Hamas, it’s looking more and more like Hamas has funded many of the “protests” around the country.
How embarrassing
You hypocrite. @Mac9192 is the very first poc here who starts going low with personal attacks.

How many of y'all are here against the one of me? You think I'm ducking anything rather than losing track in the pile-on?

What are Mohamed Khalil's friends and family saying about him? I'm not asking you to validate it; do you even know?
 
But you'll talk ABOUT me in a space where you know I'll see it, like a passive-aggressive little coward.
Im not a coward at all. I would talk straight to your smug face if I could. There’s no doubt that you’re an intelligent person, but it’s obvious you lack common sense. You’re the one that acts like a little bitch all the time with what you think are super intelligent post making fun of others.
 
You hypocrite. @Mac9192 is the very first poc here who starts going low with personal attacks.

How many of y'all are here against the one of me? You think I'm ducking anything rather than losing track in the pile-on?

What are Mohamed Khalil's friends and family saying about him? I'm not asking you to validate it; do you even know?
You’re definitely guilty of ducking certain topics. You have the same debate style as Destiny. I’m not even mad at you for it because most of your views are emotionally driven. You have no clue how to do actual research.
 
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Meh. The statues are meant to memorialize the injustice of his murder, but I can see how conservative, police brutality apologists could be bamboozled into thinking they're about idolizing the way he lived his life. It's an easier thing to accept toward the all-important goal of feeling superior. Kinda like the way the other conservatives here (not you) like to claim they know what I think.
You know he wasn't murdered, right?
 
You hypocrite. @Mac9192 is the very first poc here who starts going low with personal attacks.

How many of y'all are here against the one of me? You think I'm ducking anything rather than losing track in the pile-on?

What are Mohamed Khalil's friends and family saying about him? I'm not asking you to validate it; do you even know?
I sincerely apologize for not finding out what his friends and family think. This may be the dumbest thing you’ve posted today
 
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