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Dattier said:
I’ve seen plenty of concern about both. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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After the initial invasion in 22, there were protests for Ukraine. After Oct 7, things changed dramatically. Israel is a much more attractive villain for the Left. The students and other assorted reprobates can inaccurately use all the big words they’ve learned in their bullsh- classes like colonialism and apartheid. Israel is a Western style democracy whereas Russia is staunchly anti- West, anti- American so their misguided little hearts were never really in that fight.
Haven’t heard Sudan mentioned much whatsoever.
 
For those that voted for Trump, how are you feeling about the Epstein Files, Bondi, Kash, etc? I’m not feeling great about it and starting to think we were duped. I’m forced to come up with my own “conspiracy theories” as to what is going on here.
 
Dahntay#1 said:
For those that voted for Trump, how are you feeling about the Epstein Files, Bondi, Kash, etc? I’m not feeling great about it and starting to think we were duped. I’m forced to come up with my own “conspiracy theories” as to what is going on here.
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Definitely disappointed that it looks to have been nothing but a photo op. The thing is, they didn't need to make that promise. But because they did and didn't go through with it, they set themselves up to not be trusted just like the people who they replaced. The more concerning possibility is that once they saw the files, they realized it would be damaging to one of their interests to release it. The fact that they blamed the NYFBI for withholding files and we have yet to hear anything about those files, tells me that they are just as full of shit as the last guy.
 
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Dattier said:
Why?
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Because they said we would get them on day 1. We are on like day 10. Bondi’s tune towards the files has changed. She said some of the files will need to be redacted because of “national security” which doesn’t add up to me. Bindergate was an absolute embarrassment. And lastly, my research on Epstein and who he was connected to and funded by. There are people that need to be protected and Trump ain’t one of them.
 
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GhostOf301 said:
Definitely disappointed that it looks to have been nothing but a photo op. The thing is, they didn't need to make that promise. But because they did and didn't go through with it, they set themselves up to not be trusted just like the people who they replaced. The more concerning possibility is that once they saw the files, they realized it would be damaging to one of their interests to release it. The fact that they blamed the NYFBI for withholding files and we have yet to hear anything about those files, tells me that they are just as full of shit as the last guy.
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That’s exactly what I think. They saw the files and were like “Damn we can’t let that get out”. Now they will try to downplay it and eventually release some “files” that tell us absolutely nothing.
 
Meh. None of it will stick. He'll say something mean about a lib next week and his base will love it and rally around him. No publicity is bad publicity.

I fully accept that Presidents get into office, learn some confidential info, and have to switch course. It's why you shouldn't overpromise. Well, that used to be sound advice, anyway. President Trump overpromises and his stans get such a dopamine rush they already credit him with accomplishing it.
 
Dattier said:
Meh. None of it will stick. He'll say something mean about a lib next week and his base will love it and rally around him. No publicity is bad publicity.

I fully accept that Presidents get into office, learn some confidential info, and have to switch course. It's why you shouldn't overpromise. Well, that used to be sound advice, anyway. President Trump overpromises and his stans get such a dopamine rush they already credit him with accomplishing it.
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I see quite the opposite. Democrats are beholden to their candidate no matter what. Anyone with 2 eyes could see that Biden and Kamala weren’t qualified candidates. However, Dems stuck to the script with anything they said.

I see Trump voters disagree with many of his policies and ideals. Of course there will always be fanatics. We don’t count those. But it doesn’t take much research to see there are many MAGA folks that don’t agree with his COVID vaccine stance, how the Epstein File situation is being handled, his love of Israel, and his stance on abortion.
 
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I’ve expressed my criticisms of Trump. Like saying we are going to get rid of crime in NY, we had the greatest economy ever… and I can’t stand that he says we’re going to plant a flag on Mars. Sorry, but I don’t give a f%#* about Mars.

In spite of his flaws, I think he’s the person our country most needs.
 
Mac9192 said:
I’ve expressed my criticisms of Trump. Like saying we are going to get rid of crime in NY, we had the greatest economy ever… and I can’t stand that he says we’re going to plant a flag on Mars. Sorry, but I don’t give a f%#* about Mars.

In spite of his flaws, I think he’s the person our country most needs.
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I see Trump voters criticize him all the time. I never hear Dems criticize Obama. They didn’t start criticizing Biden until the media told them to. They were even saying Kamala was a great candidate. I’ll give it to them. They will blatantly lie to keep with their narrative.
 
Dahntay#1 said:
I see quite the opposite. Democrats are beholden to their candidate no matter what. Anyone with 2 eyes could see that Biden and Kamala weren’t qualified candidates. However, Dems stuck to the script with anything they said.

I see Trump voters disagree with many of his policies and ideals. Of course there will always be fanatics. We don’t count those. But it doesn’t take much research to see there are many MAGA folks that don’t agree with his COVID vaccine stance, how the Epstein File situation is being handled, his love of Israel, and his stance on abortion.
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"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, Okay? It's, like, incredible."
9 years, 2 impeachments, 34 felony convictions, and SCOTUS-granted immunity later, it rings just as true.
 
Dattier said:
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, Okay? It's, like, incredible."
9 years, 2 impeachments, 34 felony convictions, and SCOTUS-granted immunity later, it rings just as true.
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34 felony convictions lol.
 
The guy he shot on 5th street wasn't going to vote for him. That was the metaphor. Libs take everything to be literal except for the vile shit the left says.
 
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GhostOf301 said:
Good riddance. They should ship him to Gaza to put his ass where his mouth is.

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Since it’s CBS, of course they’re portraying him as a victim and ignoring hundreds of reports of antisemitism stemming from these “protests”. Along with the fact the president was forced to resign and the university’s own task force on antisemitism concluded that Columbia failed to protect its Jewish students, 15-20% of the student body, from violence and harassment.
The article acknowledges that he “led” the protests, but somehow implies that he bears no responsibility for anything that happened, which they conveniently didn’t mention anyway.
This article could be used as a template for Leftist bias in the legacy media
 
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GhostOf301 said:
The guy he shot on 5th street wasn't going to vote for him. That was the metaphor. Libs take everything to be literal except for the vile shit the left says.
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Um… clearly he has not literally shot someone, so how, exactly, am I taking that literally?
 
KDSTONE said:
Since it’s CBS, of course they’re portraying him as a victim and ignoring hundreds of reports of antisemitism stemming from these “protests”. Along with the fact the president was forced to resign and the university’s own task force on antisemitism concluded that Columbia failed to protect its Jewish students, 15-20% of the student body, from violence and harassment.
The article acknowledges that he “led” the protests, but somehow implies that he bears no responsibility for anything that happened, which they conveniently didn’t mention anyway.
This article could be used as a template for Leftist bias in the legacy media
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Could you elaborate on what constitutes Leftist bias, please?
 
Dattier said:
Could you elaborate on what constitutes Leftist bias, please?
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Read my last post.
Suggesting that this happened in a vacuum and it’s merely a free speech issue, ignoring the negative consequences of these protests: violence against Jews, the suspension of any sense of safety or protection for any Jew or non Jew who disagrees with them, the celebration of Oct 7th by several faculty members, the forced resignation of the President. In general, the total sh- show associated with the pro Pally movement.
 
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GhostOf301 said:
If you didn't take his comment literally, what exactly is your issue with his comment?
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I was quoting it to Dahntay as a rebuttal to his claim that Democrats and only Democrats are beholden to their candidate no matter what. Through 2 impeachments (including incitement to insurrection), 34 felony convictions, and so many more incidents, y'all have defended him and stuck by him.
Then you act like rallying around Hillary (with a strong challenge from Bernie which led to NOT rallying around Hillary), then Biden (who also faced a strong challenge from Bernie, then got kicked to the curb when convenient/necessary), then Harris (in an audible) is a greater sign of being sheep.

And being able to see all the short-term dissent and diversity within your own party/side while claiming the other party/side is always in complete conformity is such a canard.

Geez, 9 years after that quote and my frequently being the only liberal here that entire time and you think I'm taking it literally and bothered by the content of the quote itself? That might be the most offensive thing you've ever said, @GhostOf301 . I mean, hating me is one thing, but not even seeing me??? I'll be in my couch-cushion fort.
 
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Dattier said:
I was quoting it to Dahntay as a rebuttal to his claim that Democrats and only Democrats are beholden to their candidate no matter what. Through 2 impeachments (including incitement to insurrection), 34 felony convictions, and so many more incidents, y'all have defended him and stuck by him.
Then you act like rallying around Hillary (with a strong challenge from Bernie which led to NOT rallying around Hillary), then Biden (who also faced a strong challenge from Bernie, then got kicked to the curb when convenient/necessary), then Harris (in an audible) is a greater sign of being sheep.

And being able to see all the short-term dissent and diversity within your own party/side while claiming the other party/side is always in complete conformity is such a canard.

Geez, 9 years after that quote and my frequently being the only liberal here that entire time and you think I'm taking it literally and bothered by the content of the quote itself? That might be the most offensive thing you've ever said, @GhostOf301 . I mean, hating me is one thing, but not even seeing me??? I'll be in my couch-cushion fort.
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Are you OK?
 
Dattier said:
I was quoting it to Dahntay as a rebuttal to his claim that Democrats and only Democrats are beholden to their candidate no matter what. Through 2 impeachments (including incitement to insurrection), 34 felony convictions, and so many more incidents, y'all have defended him and stuck by him.
Then you act like rallying around Hillary (with a strong challenge from Bernie which led to NOT rallying around Hillary), then Biden (who also faced a strong challenge from Bernie, then got kicked to the curb when convenient/necessary), then Harris (in an audible) is a greater sign of being sheep.

And being able to see all the short-term dissent and diversity within your own party/side while claiming the other party/side is always in complete conformity is such a canard.

Geez, 9 years after that quote and my frequently being the only liberal here that entire time and you think I'm taking it literally and bothered by the content of the quote itself? That might be the most offensive thing you've ever said, @GhostOf301 . I mean, hating me is one thing, but not even seeing me??? I'll be in my couch-cushion fort.
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Out of curiosity, why do you think Trump voters stood by him through 34 felony convictions?
 
Dahntay#1 said:
Out of curiosity, why do you think Trump voters stood by him through 34 felony convictions?
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Because you think everyone is out to get him, that the media and the Left and science and ANTIFA and George Soros and the entire justice system have all conspired to frame him because we're scared that he's going to discover everything we've done to deliberately destroy America.
 
Dattier said:
Because you think everyone is out to get him, that the media and the Left and science and ANTIFA and George Soros and the entire justice system have all conspired to frame him because we're scared that he's going to discover everything we've done to deliberately destroy America.
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It’s not that deep. We just know they were bogus charges. You know they were as well, but are okay with them since you dislike him. Another difference between the left and the right. If Biden or Kamala were slapped with bogus charges, I wouldn’t be okay with it. I would think it was despicable. And I feel the same way about those two that you feel about Trump.
 
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Dattier said:
Because you think everyone is out to get him, that the media and the Left and science and ANTIFA and George Soros and the entire justice system have all conspired to frame him because we're scared that he's going to discover everything we've done to deliberately destroy America.
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Bingo
 
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Dahntay#1 said:
It’s not that deep. We just know they were bogus charges. You know they were as well, but are okay with them since you dislike him. Another difference between the left and the right. If Biden or Kamala were slapped with bogus charges, I wouldn’t be okay with it. I would think it was despicable. And I feel the same way about those two that you feel about Trump.
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You don't actually know how I feel or what I know. Full stop.

I do not believe that someone with the resources President Trump has will be found guilty of 34 felonies -- every charge he faced -- unless he really did it.

"Lock her up" was the theme song of Trump's 2016 campaign. Lock her up for what? Once in office, once it had served its purpose, President Trump quickly dismissed it and we never heard about it again. He did the same thing throughout the 2024 campaign re: President Biden and VP Harris. Y'all ate it up again. President Trump swore revenge on his enemies who prosecuted him. That's why President Biden pardoned so many of his targets at the very end. Y'all have been all-in for charges -- any charges -- against Biden and Harris.
 
What Hillary was guilty of was far more worthy of 34 (or 30,000) felonies than what they created specifically for Trump. Her incompetence led to the deaths of 4 Americans and she broke the law by destroying evidence of her incompetence. That said, no one actually thought she'd be held accountable.
 
KDSTONE said:
Read my last post.
Suggesting that this happened in a vacuum and it’s merely a free speech issue, ignoring the negative consequences of these protests: violence against Jews, the suspension of any sense of safety or protection for any Jew or non Jew who disagrees with them, the celebration of Oct 7th by several faculty members, the forced resignation of the President. In general, the total sh- show associated with the pro Pally movement.
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That particular article is about the one specific student who was elected as the spokesperson for the movement. It makes sense that they would interview those around him and that the govt would have no comment. That's how it goes a lot of the time. How else is the media supposed to get information about what he, specifically, did if the govt has no comment?
 
Dattier said:
You don't actually know how I feel or what I know. Full stop.

I do not believe that someone with the resources President Trump has will be found guilty of 34 felonies -- every charge he faced -- unless he really did it.

"Lock her up" was the theme song of Trump's 2016 campaign. Lock her up for what? Once in office, once it had served its purpose, President Trump quickly dismissed it and we never heard about it again. He did the same thing throughout the 2024 campaign re: President Biden and VP Harris. Y'all ate it up again. President Trump swore revenge on his enemies who prosecuted him. That's why President Biden pardoned so many of his targets at the very end. Y'all have been all-in for charges -- any charges -- against Biden and Harris.
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You don’t think a prosecutor that ran on “getting Trump” .. a judge who’s daughter was involved in a opponents campaign.. a jury of people that hate him.. and an environment where any lawyer that helps him finds themselves in legal trouble set up a nice easy conviction regardless of the evidence or validity of a “crime”

Interesting


Also interesting that out of those convictions his punishment was…. Nothing
 
GhostOf301 said:
What Hillary was guilty of was far more worthy of 34 (or 30,000) felonies than what they created specifically for Trump. Her incompetence led to the deaths of 4 Americans and she broke the law by destroying evidence of her incompetence. That said, no one actually thought she'd be held accountable.
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You had 10 investigations into the 4 Benghazi murders. No charges. You've had fewer investigations into January 6th, where 5 people died.
 
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