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[Dattier]

So much bullshit. Common sense is not from any news source. That's a lazy accusation. It is lunacy. It is delusion. None of this is real. It is exploitation of mental illness for virtue.

And it is total nonsense to pretend that no one is pushing this on kids. You guys act like if you deny it long enough, people will be dumb enough to believe you.

I don't think we even agree on what common sense is, or its place. If you're referring to what gender a person is as common sense, that's not what I was referring to. I will acknowledge that common sense does dictate that people are either male or female, period. I do not accept that what is common and what is correct are always, inherently the same.

I was referring to the so-called "pushing." What constitutes "pushing"? I've already stated that it is an issue first addressed by the person with gender dysphoria specifically because they have gender dysphoria, not something arbitrarily foisted upon people by parents or schools. If you mean something else by "pushing," by all means, please explain.

 

[Dattier]

Its easy to blame right wing or left wing media when your view is questioned by the alternative belief...its lazy but its the easy button

It's also really easy to claim that independent thought is rare these days, that opinions are based on 140 character tweets, etc...

 

[Fourteen44]

How sad, climate “alarmism” is a big business. This scientist saw the truth and spoke up. Clowns like @Dattier and @eldritchorifice continue to feed the alarmist machine.

 

[KDSTONE]

This post, like many of yours, bleeds denial. I completely understand why you need mental health breaks from this place, and life in general.

A small percentage of boys feel more effeminate than other males. They’re called gays or Democrats. Same with females. Growing up they’re often called tomboys. Some turn out to be gay; most don’t. This girl trapped in a boys body garbage is nonsense and needs to stop. In many cases, it’s just a phase. Like you and most people on this planet, I feel only adults should be eligible for “reassignment” surgery for a host of psychological and medical reasons Datt and eldritch are being led around by the nose by a few trans activists calling the shots for an entire subset of the population. If these two ever had any common sense, it’s long gone now

 

[KDSTONE]

I’ve already stated my position that she was refusing to play a political game. You stated your position that she would s the one playing the political game.

What’s left to say?

Refusing to play a political game or dodging the question because she didn’t know the correct pc answer for that week

 

[GhostOf301]

I don't think we even agree on what common sense is, or its place. If you're referring to what gender a person is as common sense, that's not what I was referring to. I will acknowledge that common sense does dictate that people are either male or female, period. I do not accept that what is common and what is correct are always, inherently the same.

I was referring to the so-called "pushing." What constitutes "pushing"? I've already stated that it is an issue first addressed by the person with gender dysphoria specifically because they have gender dysphoria, not something arbitrarily foisted upon people by parents or schools. If you mean something else by "pushing," by all means, please explain.

Gender dysphoria is not real. There is no such thing as gender identity. That is a terminology that activists use to make their delusional idea of the human body sound clinical.

I consider parents, teachers, doctors and any other person of authority/leadership teaching children the ideology of being able to choose their own gender, pushing it on children.

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

Ps - awesome watching the Woke mob on USWNT soccer lose early. Rapinhoe looked amazing 😂

Curiosity....what is the difference in openly voicing your pleasure in the US National Team losing while representing the USA because of whatever differences you see w/ them and silently kneeling for the anthem to protest your displeasure for whatever reasons you have...purely curiosity

 

[Dattier]

Gender dysphoria is not real. There is no such thing as gender identity.

Oh, geez. Okay, this is where I say "Uh-huh" and you say "Nuh-uh" and then we type that back and forth at each other for a while.
The official definition for gender dysphoria defines it as a particular feeling some people have. You have to be in pretty deep denial to act as if you get to decide whether other people actually feel a certain way or not.

I consider parents, teachers, doctors and any other person of authority/leadership teaching children the ideology of being able to choose their own gender, pushing it on children.

The bold: bogus right-wing talking point, like calling sexual orientation a "lifestyle."

 

[Dattier]

Refusing to play a political game or dodging the question because she didn’t know the correct pc answer for that week

That would be the same thing. Try harder.

 

[Dattier]

A small percentage of boys feel more effeminate than other males. They’re called gays or Democrats. Same with females. Growing up they’re often called tomboys. Some turn out to be gay; most don’t. This girl trapped in a boys body garbage is nonsense and needs to stop. In many cases, it’s just a phase. Like you and most people on this planet, I feel only adults should be eligible for “reassignment” surgery for a host of psychological and medical reasons Datt and eldritch are being led around by the nose by a few trans activists calling the shots for an entire subset of the population. If these two ever had any common sense, it’s long gone now

You oversimplify so that you can understand. That's called a "strawman fallacy."

I haven't weighed in on gender reassignment surgery at all. You -- like most conservatives here -- take the fact that I respect and support transpeople as evidence that I approve of brainwashing prepubescent children into believing they are trans and undergoing gender reassignment surgery, or teaching elementary school kids how to have gay sex, or worse.

 

[Dattier]

Curiosity....what is the difference in openly voicing your pleasure in the US National Team losing while representing the USA because of whatever differences you see w/ them and silently kneeling for the anthem to protest your displeasure for whatever reasons you have...purely curiosity

They-did-it*-first-so-I-get-to-do-it-worse-ism**

*"It" being something I don't understand and have redefined for myself.
**It's in the Bible that I get to do this.

 

[eldritchorifice]

Gender dysphoria is not real. There is no such thing as gender identity. That is a terminology that activists use to make their delusional idea of the human body sound clinical.

I consider parents, teachers, doctors and any other person of authority/leadership teaching children the ideology of being able to choose their own gender, pushing it on children.

Goddamn you are such a ****ing dumbass. It's such cruel irony for the rest of us that complete idiots such as yourself have the most confidence of anyone that they are right.

Imagine thinking for one second you are so ****ing intelligent to as be able to tell everyone what they can or can't and do or don't feel. If you possessed even 1% of the intelligence as you believe you do you'd understand why your position is so unbelievably ****ing stupid.

Or maybe I'm letting you off too easy now and you're not actually a complete ****ing moron but instead you're even more hateful than I previously thought. Is the cruelty the point for you, or are you actually that stupid?

 

[GhostOf301]

Goddamn you are such a ****ing dumbass. It's such cruel irony for the rest of us that complete idiots such as yourself have the most confidence of anyone that they are right.

Imagine thinking for one second you are so ****ing intelligent to as be able to tell everyone what they can or can't and do or don't feel. If you possessed even 1% of the intelligence as you believe you do you'd understand why your position is so unbelievably ****ing stupid.

Or maybe I'm letting you off too easy now and you're not actually a complete ****ing moron but instead you're even more hateful than I previously thought. Is the cruelty the point for you, or are you actually that stupid?

Were you crying when you typed this?

 

[GhostOf301]

You have to be in pretty deep denial to act as if you get to decide whether other people actually feel a certain way or not.

I don't get to decide whether other people feel a certain way. I can feel like I am supposed to be a cat. That doesn't make that feeling real. I am simply saying that the idea that gender is fluid and can be decided by feelings is delusional. It's not real. But either way, like you said, we're just going back and forth without any meaningful dialog.

 

[eldritchorifice]

Were you crying when you typed this?

Tears streaming down my face, from laughing at the irony of you of all people thinking you have anything intelligent at all to add to the conversation of gender dysphoria or transgender people.

Your comments read like a four old trying to explain particle physics. You are so clearly out of your depth. At least the four year old would have the excuse of being four years old, what's yours?

 

[KDSTONE]

Goddamn you are such a ****ing dumbass. It's such cruel irony for the rest of us that complete idiots such as yourself have the most confidence of anyone that they are right.

Imagine thinking for one second you are so ****ing intelligent to as be able to tell everyone what they can or can't and do or don't feel. If you possessed even 1% of the intelligence as you believe you do you'd understand why your position is so unbelievably ****ing stupid.

Or maybe I'm letting you off too easy now and you're not actually a complete ****ing moron but instead you're even more hateful than I previously thought. Is the cruelty the point for you, or are you actually that stupid?

“Letting it all out” may be encouraged at your shrink’s office, but some self-restraint would be appreciated here. Triggered much? If I wake up tomorrow and feel like a teenager, can I enroll down at the high school and try out for wide receiver? Who are you to tell me I can’t?

 

[eldritchorifice]

“Letting it all out” may be encouraged at your shrink’s office, but some self-restraint would be appreciated here. Triggered much? If I wake up tomorrow and feel like a teenager, can I enroll down at the high school and try out for wide receiver? Who are you to tell me I can’t?

I'm so very triggered bud. Or, maybe, possibly, I just wanted to point and laugh at the village idiot. Or I guess in y'alls case it would be village of idiots.

And sure, you can try to enroll, I won't stop you. Law enforcement might have an issue though. And aren't you supposed to be 500 yards away from a school at all times anyway?

 

[GhostOf301]

Tears streaming down my face, from laughing at the irony of you of all people thinking you have anything intelligent at all to add to the conversation of gender dysphoria or transgender people.

Your comments read like a four old trying to explain particle physics. You are so clearly out of your depth. At least the four year old would have the excuse of being four years old, what's yours?

Damn you are unhinged. Forgive me for not taking you serious enough to be offended by your insults. A person who thinks that men can menstruate, that fossil fuels cause climate change and that gender fluidity is real is not smart enough to make me feel stupid.

 

[Dattier]

I don't get to decide whether other people feel a certain way. I can feel like I am supposed to be a cat. That doesn't make that feeling real. I am simply saying that the idea that gender is fluid and can be decided by feelings is delusional. It's not real. But either way, like you said, we're just going back and forth without any meaningful dialog.

🤦‍♂️

 

[GhostOf301]

🤦‍♂️

Have you ever thought you felt something, but you didn't? Just because you think you feel one way, doesn't make it real.

 

[Fourteen44]

Curiosity....what is the difference in openly voicing your pleasure in the US National Team losing while representing the USA because of whatever differences you see w/ them and silently kneeling for the anthem to protest your displeasure for whatever reasons you have...purely curiosity

Could care less if someone kneels - I just laughed. “Hey look, another white suburbanite kneeling for attention!” She still sucks, for other issues (like championing for men to play in women’s sports).

 

[Fourteen44]

Curiosity....what is the difference in openly voicing your pleasure in the US National Team losing while representing the USA because of whatever differences you see w/ them and silently kneeling for the anthem to protest your displeasure for whatever reasons you have...purely curiosity

Ps, Dattier is afraid 😱

 

[eldritchorifice]

Damn you are unhinged. Forgive me for not taking you serious enough to be offended by your insults. A person who thinks that men can menstruate, that fossil fuels cause climate change and that gender fluidity is real is not smart enough to make me feel stupid.

Except you are stupid. Let me explain in terms even you can maybe comprehend, water makes things wet, correct? 1 plus 1 equals 2. Co2 traps sunlight from the Sun instead of letting it back out into space.

 

[Fourteen44]

Except you are stupid. Let me explain in terms even you can maybe comprehend, water makes things wet, correct? 1 plus 1 equals 2. Co2 traps sunlight from the Sun instead of letting it back out into space.

Dude, you don’t even understand simple clinical scenarios. We all see your intelligence level, just carry on.

 

[eldritchorifice]

Dude, you don’t even understand simple clinical scenarios. We all see your intelligence level, just carry on.

Dude, you can't tell the difference between gender and birth sex. You have no right to be talking about anyone's intelligence level. You might actually be more stupid than mud.

 

[Mac9192]

We’ve gone way too far on what is tolerated. It’s actually a sinister plan. Another job well done by our people running the media.
You slowly push extreme ideas onto everyone, and then shame those that oppose what’s being pushed.

What we are living through would be laughable if it weren’t real.

 

[GhostOf301]

Except you are stupid. Let me explain in terms even you can maybe comprehend, water makes things wet, correct? 1 plus 1 equals 2. Co2 traps sunlight from the Sun instead of letting it back out into space.

Oh look, the angry lil fella gave two safe, elementary facts followed by something so out of context, it makes Camela Harris look smart. In fact, he must be getting his knowledge from Camela.

 

[Fourteen44]

Dude, you can't tell the difference between gender and birth sex. You have no right to be talking about anyone's intelligence level. You might actually be more stupid than mud.

Gender = birth sex, genius.

No wonder you avoided every single clinical scenario I presented.

Ps - you’re financially enslaved. I’m working for fun at 45, but can retire tomo without a care, and could travel the world. Does money make the person? Nah, but it does allow me to compare your version of stupidity to mine. I know, I know, I don’t pay my share, even in the highest FIT bracket.

 

[eldritchorifice]

Oh look, the angry lil fella gave two safe, elementary facts followed by something so out of context, it makes Camela Harris look smart. In fact, he must be getting his knowledge from Camela.

I gave three elementary facts, I was hoping you could comprehend them but it looks like my hopes have been dashed.

 

[eldritchorifice]

Gender = birth sex, genius.

No wonder you avoided every single clinical scenario I presented.

Ps - you’re financially enslaved. I’m working for fun at 45, but can retire tomo without a care, and could travel the world. Does money make the person? Nah, but it does allow me to compare your version of stupidity to mine. I know, I know, I don’t pay my share, even in the highest FIT bracket.

Good for you. It's all the rest of us want but you're ignorant asshole who doesn't want those things for everyone else. That's why you continuously vote against everyone else.

Good Ole "**** you got mine" mindset.

And again, birth sex and what someone identifies as are two different things. My six year can easily comprehend the difference but you can't? And you work in healthcare? You might have all the money you want but you're a complete joke of a healthcare professional.

 

[eldritchorifice]

@GhostOf301 lemme make it even more elementary for ya, mmkay? Let's remove global warming for a minute. You remember when you were in elementary school and they were teaching you about how plants use carbon dioxide and release it through respiration? Well where do you think that Co2 goes? It goes into our atmosphere and helps trap vital heat from the sun so we don't freeze to death.

The issue is that there is now too much Co2 and too much heat being trapped. Hence GLOBAL WARMING. You are quite literally denying an elementary fact as simple as water making things wet or one plus one equals two.

 

[GhostOf301]

That's elementary alright.

 

[GhostOf301]

Good for you. It's all the rest of us want but you're ignorant asshole who doesn't want those things for everyone else. That's why you continuously vote against everyone else.

Good Ole "**** you got mine" mindset.

And again, birth sex and what someone identifies as are two different things. My six year can easily comprehend the difference but you can't? And you work in healthcare? You might have all the money you want but you're a complete joke of a healthcare professional.

You're teaching your six year old about radical, political ideologies and you're calling someone else an asshole.

 

[eldritchorifice]

That's elementary alright.

It sure is. Now, would you kindly either remove your head from your ass or shove your anti-intellectual bullshit where the sun don't shine sweetie?

 

[eldritchorifice]

You're teaching your six year old about radical, political ideologies and you're calling someone else an asshole.

It's not an Ideology, there is simply a real, measurable difference between what equipment someone was born with and whether they view themselves as a man or a woman. Again, it's a very easy to grasp difference.

 

[GhostOf301]

It's not an Ideology, there is simply a real, measurable difference between what equipment someone was born with and whether they view themselves as a man or a woman. Again, it's a very easy to grasp difference.

You're not a serious person. You are unable to understand delusion vs reality. Or you're just a really good troll.

 

[eldritchorifice]

You're not a serious person. You are unable to understand delusion vs reality. Or you're just a really good troll.

Oh but you're a serious person, Mr. I Can't Even Comprehend First Grade Flower Facts?

If being able to understand that there are completely different ways people view themselves from the way I view myself makes me an unserious person then yeah I guess I'm not a serious person.

Sorry if others existing offends your dainty sensibilities snowflake.

 

[Fourteen44]

Good for you. It's all the rest of us want but you're ignorant asshole who doesn't want those things for everyone else. That's why you continuously vote against everyone else.

Good Ole "**** you got mine" mindset.

And again, birth sex and what someone identifies as are two different things. My six year can easily comprehend the difference but you can't? And you work in healthcare? You might have all the money you want but you're a complete joke of a healthcare professional.

So I don’t want the rest of you to be creative, work hard, and take advantage of a free market economy? Please elaborate. You reek of bitterness yet again.

And “I got mine” mindset? Really? Do you know how many people I’ve helped succeed financially and professionally? Foot, meet mouth.

Again I provided 4 clinical scenarios for you to answer but you couldn’t. Why? Because we triage and treat on biological sex as what/how you imagine means nothing. Clinical fact is clinical fact. Your 6 year old feels that way because you’re grooming “it”, Dahmer.

Lastly, how many sex changes how been successful?

 

[Fourteen44]

Oh but you're a serious person, Mr. I Can't Even Comprehend First Grade Flower Facts?

If being able to understand that there are completely different ways people view themselves from the way I view myself makes me an unserious person then yeah I guess I'm not a serious person.

Sorry if others existing offends your dainty sensibilities snowflake.

Nothing screams snowflake like a Caucasian SJW like yourself. Careful throwing insults that, in reality, describe you.

 

[GhostOf301]

Nothing screams snowflake like a Caucasian SJW like yourself. Careful throwing insults that, in reality, describe you.

They're desperately trying to take that word and flip it on conservatives. His angry rant that equates to the internet's version of screaming at me earlier, is the snowflakiest of snowflake tantrums we've seen on this board in a long time.