Thanks DevilDJ for always keeping us updated. I won't be satisfied with the sanctions unless at least one banner comes down and there is at least one postseason ban. I would rather see 2 or 3 banners removed and multiple postseason bans.
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3 banners should be removed and postseason ban for at least 1 decade with ole'roy fired and legacy of all coaching staff include dean (they all knew players were taking fake courses) should be tainted forever
it boggles my mind that a UNC basketball player on a championship brought this whole investigation about 1 year ago stating he took fake classes and they didn't even remove that championship yet (as soon as rose was found to not have taken the SAT memphis had all their wins vacated)
There seems to be some talk that the 05 banner is in the most danger. Personally , I don't see how that one falls if 93 and 09 stay. All 3 have the same issues. And remember...all it takes is one ineligible player to vacate the title. One. unx , obviously , has multiple players from all 3 teams who wet their beak in the paper class/independent study scam. Justifiably , unx could forfeit the trio but if it was up to me , I'd let 'em hang if the sanctions were what they should be. First of all , the banners are worthless. Everyone knows how they were acquired. Every time they're pictured anywhere , they stand as a testament to 2 decades of the worst cheating in NCAA history. Again , let 'em stay. That said , if the bank robber gets to keep the stolen cash , he also has to be sentenced. In unx's case that sentence should include a 3-5 year post-season ban in football and basketball...for starters. 18-20+ programs were involved. All of 'em get post-season bans of varying length depending on the pervasiveness of the fraud. Probation for all sports involved for the length of the bans. The slightest violation during that time results in a stoppage of play...the so-called "Death Penalty." Scholly losses and recruiting restrictions across the board , again , for the length of the bans. If Roy and/or Fed are fired , they're both fired with a big fat "show cause." Roy would retire but I'd like to see 'im hang around. He sux. Finally , and this one's just for me , I'd like a public mea culpa from unx. I want the school to apologize to all their opponents for every stolen , ill-gotten win and to every athlete they cheated out of an education. If B-Rad would deliver it , I could die a happy man.
unc-CHAPEL HILL TO LEARN ACCREDITATION STATUS NEXT MONTH
The University of North carolina will learn next month where it stands with the accreditation agency Southern Association of Colleges and Schools (SACS) in wake of the damaging Wainstein report on academic fraud.
SACS President Dr. Belle Wheelan told ABC11 on Thursday, "the board decisions will be made public the afternoon of June 11."
SACS first put the university on notice in 2011 when claims of academic impropriety first surfaced, and SACS said last fall the agency considered the findings of Kenneth Wainstein as a new issue.
The agency says unc was not diligent in providing information about the academic scandal, and that two unc employees withheld information about the fraud.
SACS reviewed the Wainstein report and notified unc in November of 18 accreditation standards which the university may have violated. The most damaging was a lack of "institutional integrity."
In a 224-page response, unc officials asked the agency to find them in compliance, noting numerous changes that have been made in the wake of the scandal.
Possible punishment from the SACS board includes probation or stripping unc of its accreditation.
http://abc11.com/education/unc-to-learn-accreditation-status-next-month/722813/
The University of North carolina will learn next month where it stands with the accreditation agency Southern Association of Colleges and Schools (SACS) in wake of the damaging Wainstein report on academic fraud.
SACS President Dr. Belle Wheelan told ABC11 on Thursday, "the board decisions will be made public the afternoon of June 11."
SACS first put the university on notice in 2011 when claims of academic impropriety first surfaced, and SACS said last fall the agency considered the findings of Kenneth Wainstein as a new issue.
The agency says unc was not diligent in providing information about the academic scandal, and that two unc employees withheld information about the fraud.
SACS reviewed the Wainstein report and notified unc in November of 18 accreditation standards which the university may have violated. The most damaging was a lack of "institutional integrity."
In a 224-page response, unc officials asked the agency to find them in compliance, noting numerous changes that have been made in the wake of the scandal.
Possible punishment from the SACS board includes probation or stripping unc of its accreditation.
http://abc11.com/education/unc-to-learn-accreditation-status-next-month/722813/
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SACS. LOIC. Probation.
What kind of diversion is unc planning before June 11th gets here? Analyze the newspapers and look for it.
When the unc system president went before the Knight Commission asking them to reduce academic demands on incoming freshman student-athletes...
http://www.wral.com/unc-president-lighten-load-for-freshmen-student-athletes/13494135/
...he sealed the LOIC deal for unc. The attempt to maintain a big time athletics program at all costs went all the way to the top.
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SACS. LOIC. Probation.
What kind of diversion is unc planning before June 11th gets here? Analyze the newspapers and look for it.
When the unc system president went before the Knight Commission asking them to reduce academic demands on incoming freshman student-athletes...
http://www.wral.com/unc-president-lighten-load-for-freshmen-student-athletes/13494135/
...he sealed the LOIC deal for unc. The attempt to maintain a big time athletics program at all costs went all the way to the top.
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Tar Heels suffering
It seems those who cover college basketball can’t go more than a couple of days without someone asking, “When is the NCAA going to finally punish North carolina for that academic scandal?” It’s especially true here in Illinois, where fans of the 2005 Illini are hopeful that great team will be handed a national title. Sorry, but regardless of what comes of the unc investigation, that isn’t happening. Knowing the NCAA, it could be a decade or more. But Roy Williams’ program is already suffering from the investigation. unc was in the mix for Ingram, who ultimately picked Duke,and reports suggest he and other big-time Tar Heels targets are uneasy about pledging unc because of the uncertainty of the scandal.
http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/...-basketball-big-tens-top-returning-players.ht
Tar Heels suffering
It seems those who cover college basketball can’t go more than a couple of days without someone asking, “When is the NCAA going to finally punish North carolina for that academic scandal?” It’s especially true here in Illinois, where fans of the 2005 Illini are hopeful that great team will be handed a national title. Sorry, but regardless of what comes of the unc investigation, that isn’t happening. Knowing the NCAA, it could be a decade or more. But Roy Williams’ program is already suffering from the investigation. unc was in the mix for Ingram, who ultimately picked Duke,and reports suggest he and other big-time Tar Heels targets are uneasy about pledging unc because of the uncertainty of the scandal.
http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/...-basketball-big-tens-top-returning-players.ht
Disgusting...
Tom Ross: Get rid of ‘one and done’
unc system President Tom Ross was in Charlotte this week to talk to a group of businessmen about higher education and unc’s future. With unc Chapel Hill still emerging from an academics/athletic scandal involving no-show classes, an audience member asked Ross to talk about the need for unc and other universities to balance academics and athletics.
Ross said there is no need for “balance” – that academics always have to be preeminent. He went on to name some things schools and others could do to mitigate the influence of the big money in which college football and basketball are awash. Those include forcing basketball players to stay at least three years, clamping down on meddling agents and congressional action to give universities more control of things.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/o-pinion/article20987226.html
"Forcing players to stay 3 years?" Roy already does that...or tries to anyway. If that ever becomes standard practice we can call it , "The Ty Lawson Rule." "Clamping down on meddling agents?" Rand Getlin once described the "agent activity" at unx as "hectic." Agents teach classes and pressure professors to change grades for idiot jocks at unx. Agent's runners tutor players , tutor the head football coach's son and play on the women's softball team at unx too. "Hectic" is an understatement. The point is unx fostered the atmosphere of lawlessness where agent activity could thrive. Ross blames the agents...and given his statements about "congressional action" he wants others to clean it up. "Give universities more control?" Great idea. How's that worked out at the "flagship" so far? BTW , the REAL reason Ross demonizes agents? Agents tend to mess things up for selfish corrupt d-bags like Roy. Unlike Williams , an agent's loyalty is with the prospective client NOT the program...and for damn sure not the coach. A player is liable to get realistic projections about his pro career from an agent whereas self-serving ego-maniacs like Roy will always do whatever's best for his program. Typical Roy. The player's needs are always secondary...at best.
Tom Ross: Get rid of ‘one and done’
unc system President Tom Ross was in Charlotte this week to talk to a group of businessmen about higher education and unc’s future. With unc Chapel Hill still emerging from an academics/athletic scandal involving no-show classes, an audience member asked Ross to talk about the need for unc and other universities to balance academics and athletics.
Ross said there is no need for “balance” – that academics always have to be preeminent. He went on to name some things schools and others could do to mitigate the influence of the big money in which college football and basketball are awash. Those include forcing basketball players to stay at least three years, clamping down on meddling agents and congressional action to give universities more control of things.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/o-pinion/article20987226.html
"Forcing players to stay 3 years?" Roy already does that...or tries to anyway. If that ever becomes standard practice we can call it , "The Ty Lawson Rule." "Clamping down on meddling agents?" Rand Getlin once described the "agent activity" at unx as "hectic." Agents teach classes and pressure professors to change grades for idiot jocks at unx. Agent's runners tutor players , tutor the head football coach's son and play on the women's softball team at unx too. "Hectic" is an understatement. The point is unx fostered the atmosphere of lawlessness where agent activity could thrive. Ross blames the agents...and given his statements about "congressional action" he wants others to clean it up. "Give universities more control?" Great idea. How's that worked out at the "flagship" so far? BTW , the REAL reason Ross demonizes agents? Agents tend to mess things up for selfish corrupt d-bags like Roy. Unlike Williams , an agent's loyalty is with the prospective client NOT the program...and for damn sure not the coach. A player is liable to get realistic projections about his pro career from an agent whereas self-serving ego-maniacs like Roy will always do whatever's best for his program. Typical Roy. The player's needs are always secondary...at best.
Division I Committee on Infractions...
http://web1.ncaa.org/committees/committees_roster.jsp?CommitteeName=1INFRACTION
Not fer nuthin' but Michael F. Adams from UGA is on there. There , one athlete & one class = "Level II" sanctions. Per the link , Level II is "still considered major.” And this is "swimming" we're talkin' about. SWIMMING! Hardly a revenue sport or evidence of pervasive decades-long fraud...
http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/uga-bauerle-accept-level-ii-penalties-from-ncaa/njTKF/
http://web1.ncaa.org/committees/committees_roster.jsp?CommitteeName=1INFRACTION
Not fer nuthin' but Michael F. Adams from UGA is on there. There , one athlete & one class = "Level II" sanctions. Per the link , Level II is "still considered major.” And this is "swimming" we're talkin' about. SWIMMING! Hardly a revenue sport or evidence of pervasive decades-long fraud...
http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/uga-bauerle-accept-level-ii-penalties-from-ncaa/njTKF/
LOL show. I never get tired of your post and can't wait to see what you have to say next. I'd love to have you living next door. OFC
Another current example to compare/contrast with unx....
UH to vacate basketball wins, cut scholarships after NCAA violations
University of Hawaii fired its head men's basketball coach Gib Arnold in October as the NCAA investigated alleged rule violations.
The University of Hawaii said Friday it will vacate 36 victories, reduce scholarships and practice time, pay a $10,000 fine, and place itself on one-year probation for violations of NCAA rules by its men's basketball program.
The self-imposed sanctions were contained in a 64-page reply to the NCAA that UH filed Friday.
UH said it will forfeit one scholarship for each of the next two seasons, 2015-16 and 2016-17, reducing to 12 from 13 the number of allowable scholarships.
The one-year probation does not involve post-season, a UH spokesman said.
The victories it will vacate will be from the 2012-13 and 2013-14 seasons in which UH had gone 17-15 and 20-11.
Although their names were redacted in the UH reply, former players Isaac Fotu and Davis Rozitis played in the 2012-13 and 2013-14 seasons, and have been cited in the NCAA allegations.
UH also said it will strengthen its rules education for athletes, coaches and staff.
UH dismissed head coach Gib Arnold and assistant Brandyn Akana Oct. 28 "without cause." Fotu was subsequently declared ineligible. He left school to play professionally in Spain. Rozitis graduated before the NCAA completed its investigation.
UH said, "For the most part these violations involve either intentional or careless failure to follow well-known bylaws that members of the men's basketball coaching staff understood but failed to obey. The coaches compounded the adverse impact of these poor decisions when they (1) failed to report to the university's compliance department their own or other violations in the program; (2) instructed or encouraged staff members and student-athletes to conceal or not report the violations or; (3) provided false or misleading information during the investigation rather than admit the violation occurred."
The NCAA typically has 60 days to respond to UH's reply after which a hearing before the NCAA's Committee on Infractions is scheduled. The committee may accept or add additional penalties.
In a statement, UH said, "According to the NCAA process, the next step is a hearing before the NCAA Committee on Infractions to be held in approximately two months."
The school said it, "cannot comment on the substance of the NOA response because it is an ongoing NCAA matter, as required by the NCAA bylaws on confidentiality. UH has fully cooperated with the NCAA and will continue to do so."
UH said it has yet to receive a copy of Arnold's response to the NCAA.
After months of investigating, the NCAA alleged in January that the UH basketball program violated several rules, including impermissible tryouts, improper benefits, dishonest conduct and using operations people as coaches.
In the allegations, Arnold was charged with "obstructing an investigation or attempting to conceal the violations." In addition, the NCAA claimed "Arnold knowingly influenced the then directors of operations to conceal their participation in coaching, instructional and/or recruiting activities from the media and the institution in order to conceal the violations.
"Arnold knowingly influenced then men's basketball staff members to fabricate a story to report to the institution that the on-campus evaluation conducted between April 19 and 20, 2013, was neither arranged nor observed by the men's basketball staff," according to the document.
Lastly, "Arnold knowingly influenced at least four then men's basketball student-athletes to refrain from reporting" issues.
The NCAA also cited Akana for having "knowingly provided a then men's basketball student-athlete with an Apple iPad. Additionally, Akana knowingly altered an admissions document of a then men's basketball prospect and submitted the document to the institution to facilitate the prospect's admission."
Also, the NCAA claimed "Akana knowingly provided the institution and NCAA enforcement staff with false or misleading information when he denied providing the then student-athlete with an iPad despite the factual evidence."
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/...ships_after_NCAA_violations.html?id=303952981
UH to vacate basketball wins, cut scholarships after NCAA violations
University of Hawaii fired its head men's basketball coach Gib Arnold in October as the NCAA investigated alleged rule violations.
The University of Hawaii said Friday it will vacate 36 victories, reduce scholarships and practice time, pay a $10,000 fine, and place itself on one-year probation for violations of NCAA rules by its men's basketball program.
The self-imposed sanctions were contained in a 64-page reply to the NCAA that UH filed Friday.
UH said it will forfeit one scholarship for each of the next two seasons, 2015-16 and 2016-17, reducing to 12 from 13 the number of allowable scholarships.
The one-year probation does not involve post-season, a UH spokesman said.
The victories it will vacate will be from the 2012-13 and 2013-14 seasons in which UH had gone 17-15 and 20-11.
Although their names were redacted in the UH reply, former players Isaac Fotu and Davis Rozitis played in the 2012-13 and 2013-14 seasons, and have been cited in the NCAA allegations.
UH also said it will strengthen its rules education for athletes, coaches and staff.
UH dismissed head coach Gib Arnold and assistant Brandyn Akana Oct. 28 "without cause." Fotu was subsequently declared ineligible. He left school to play professionally in Spain. Rozitis graduated before the NCAA completed its investigation.
UH said, "For the most part these violations involve either intentional or careless failure to follow well-known bylaws that members of the men's basketball coaching staff understood but failed to obey. The coaches compounded the adverse impact of these poor decisions when they (1) failed to report to the university's compliance department their own or other violations in the program; (2) instructed or encouraged staff members and student-athletes to conceal or not report the violations or; (3) provided false or misleading information during the investigation rather than admit the violation occurred."
The NCAA typically has 60 days to respond to UH's reply after which a hearing before the NCAA's Committee on Infractions is scheduled. The committee may accept or add additional penalties.
In a statement, UH said, "According to the NCAA process, the next step is a hearing before the NCAA Committee on Infractions to be held in approximately two months."
The school said it, "cannot comment on the substance of the NOA response because it is an ongoing NCAA matter, as required by the NCAA bylaws on confidentiality. UH has fully cooperated with the NCAA and will continue to do so."
UH said it has yet to receive a copy of Arnold's response to the NCAA.
After months of investigating, the NCAA alleged in January that the UH basketball program violated several rules, including impermissible tryouts, improper benefits, dishonest conduct and using operations people as coaches.
In the allegations, Arnold was charged with "obstructing an investigation or attempting to conceal the violations." In addition, the NCAA claimed "Arnold knowingly influenced the then directors of operations to conceal their participation in coaching, instructional and/or recruiting activities from the media and the institution in order to conceal the violations.
"Arnold knowingly influenced then men's basketball staff members to fabricate a story to report to the institution that the on-campus evaluation conducted between April 19 and 20, 2013, was neither arranged nor observed by the men's basketball staff," according to the document.
Lastly, "Arnold knowingly influenced at least four then men's basketball student-athletes to refrain from reporting" issues.
The NCAA also cited Akana for having "knowingly provided a then men's basketball student-athlete with an Apple iPad. Additionally, Akana knowingly altered an admissions document of a then men's basketball prospect and submitted the document to the institution to facilitate the prospect's admission."
Also, the NCAA claimed "Akana knowingly provided the institution and NCAA enforcement staff with false or misleading information when he denied providing the then student-athlete with an iPad despite the factual evidence."
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/...ships_after_NCAA_violations.html?id=303952981
Steve Berkowitz@ByBerkowitz
NCAA reiterates in court filing in suit regarding unc academic scandal: No "viable legal claim" v. NCAA when schools break NCAA rules
Steve Berkowitz@ByBerkowitz
NCAA in seeking dismissal of lawsuit about UNC academic scandal: "The NCAA Did Not Owe Plaintiffs A Legal Duty To Prevent Academic Fraud"
Steve Berkowitz@ByBerkowitz
unc in seeking dimissal of lawsuit about academic fraud: "Not all regrettable events are actionable in a court of law."
Steve Berkowitz@ByBerkowitz
unc: Plaintiffs in fraud suit knew issue when "never attended class, never interacted w/ an instructor, and never received any instruction"
https://twitter.com/ByBerkowitz
NCAA reiterates in court filing in suit regarding unc academic scandal: No "viable legal claim" v. NCAA when schools break NCAA rules
Steve Berkowitz@ByBerkowitz
NCAA in seeking dismissal of lawsuit about UNC academic scandal: "The NCAA Did Not Owe Plaintiffs A Legal Duty To Prevent Academic Fraud"
Steve Berkowitz@ByBerkowitz
unc in seeking dimissal of lawsuit about academic fraud: "Not all regrettable events are actionable in a court of law."
Steve Berkowitz@ByBerkowitz
unc: Plaintiffs in fraud suit knew issue when "never attended class, never interacted w/ an instructor, and never received any instruction"
https://twitter.com/ByBerkowitz
Unreal. unx's argument is , basically , "the classes were so obviously fraudulent the players who took 'em shoulda known better." I dunno whether to crap or go blind. Lol. BTW , check this out. "Sellout" Deb Stroman made her version of the "plaintiffs knew the issue" argument on OTL awhile back. About the 16:00 mark...
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=10672168
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=10672168
“Regrettable actions” regarding irregular classes to University of North carolina athletes do not mean legal action can be taken in court, the university argued in federal court filings Friday.
"We may have done something wrong but even if we did we don't expect to be held responsible for any of it."
“But it cannot accept Plaintiffs’ attempt to characterize their isolated experiences of enrolling in and receiving credit for one or two of these alleged ‘paper classes,’ among an entire course of study that they admit was otherwise academically sound, as a recompensable claim. Not all regrettable events are actionable in a court of law, and that is the case here.”
"These were isolated experiences committed by rogue offenders but , again , we can't be held responsible just because some athletes wet their beak in our decades-old scam."
North carolina argued that the plaintiffs “cannot credibly claim” that the occurrences of some improper classes means the former players did not have a high quality education. Even if they show that, unc wrote, the suit must be dismissed as “unrecognized” educational malpractice claims.
"As usual , those making these claims vs the flagship aren't believable and even if they were how many times do we have to say it? We're not accountable for any of it. So there."
“Plaintiffs cannot have it both ways: either they are complaining about the quality of their education as whole, or they are complaining about isolated classes,” North carolina wrote. “Neither is actionable.”
North carolina said it is immune from suit in federal court based on the Eleventh Amendment that recognizes sovereign immunity.
"See? Told ya."
North carolina said it is “not credible” that the former unc players discovered the deficiencies in the classes in 2014, six to eight years after receiving class credit, and they could have complained or inquired about the academic soundness of the classes at the time. “Such deficiencies would be obvious to any college student, especially Plaintiffs who could compare these alleged ‘paper classes’ to the rest of the admittedly sound classes they took during their enrollment at the University,” North carolina wrote.
"Look...like we said earlier. Those betching about this aren't credible and besides. Even WE knew the classes were as phony as a 3-dollar bill. Is it our fault we admitted kids so stupid they couldn't tell?"
The McCants plaintiffs have claimed North carolina waived immunity due to a breach of contract, citing “course directories, bulletins, schedules, and otherwise” as implied contracts related to a student’s education. North carolina said those types of documents “are not contractual in nature unless expressly incorporated into a contract.” The university also argued that no North carolina court has found an actionable breach of contract claim based on alleged insufficiencies of a single class.
"Now that we're goin' over it again , we're not even sure the class was all that phony to begin with. After all , consider the source."
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/wri...-actions-in-academics-dont-equal-legal-action
"We may have done something wrong but even if we did we don't expect to be held responsible for any of it."
“But it cannot accept Plaintiffs’ attempt to characterize their isolated experiences of enrolling in and receiving credit for one or two of these alleged ‘paper classes,’ among an entire course of study that they admit was otherwise academically sound, as a recompensable claim. Not all regrettable events are actionable in a court of law, and that is the case here.”
"These were isolated experiences committed by rogue offenders but , again , we can't be held responsible just because some athletes wet their beak in our decades-old scam."
North carolina argued that the plaintiffs “cannot credibly claim” that the occurrences of some improper classes means the former players did not have a high quality education. Even if they show that, unc wrote, the suit must be dismissed as “unrecognized” educational malpractice claims.
"As usual , those making these claims vs the flagship aren't believable and even if they were how many times do we have to say it? We're not accountable for any of it. So there."
“Plaintiffs cannot have it both ways: either they are complaining about the quality of their education as whole, or they are complaining about isolated classes,” North carolina wrote. “Neither is actionable.”
North carolina said it is immune from suit in federal court based on the Eleventh Amendment that recognizes sovereign immunity.
"See? Told ya."
North carolina said it is “not credible” that the former unc players discovered the deficiencies in the classes in 2014, six to eight years after receiving class credit, and they could have complained or inquired about the academic soundness of the classes at the time. “Such deficiencies would be obvious to any college student, especially Plaintiffs who could compare these alleged ‘paper classes’ to the rest of the admittedly sound classes they took during their enrollment at the University,” North carolina wrote.
"Look...like we said earlier. Those betching about this aren't credible and besides. Even WE knew the classes were as phony as a 3-dollar bill. Is it our fault we admitted kids so stupid they couldn't tell?"
The McCants plaintiffs have claimed North carolina waived immunity due to a breach of contract, citing “course directories, bulletins, schedules, and otherwise” as implied contracts related to a student’s education. North carolina said those types of documents “are not contractual in nature unless expressly incorporated into a contract.” The university also argued that no North carolina court has found an actionable breach of contract claim based on alleged insufficiencies of a single class.
"Now that we're goin' over it again , we're not even sure the class was all that phony to begin with. After all , consider the source."
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/wri...-actions-in-academics-dont-equal-legal-action
"COMMENTS" section of recent unx alum Bob Lee's blog...
morris robertson
ncaa is penalyzing unc by not making a decision. i think unc law school graduates should sue for a conclusion. unc cannot draw athletes as long as they delay.
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Do The Crime - Serve The Time - Get on With Life is usually the best path....
Dr. Vinnyboombatz
UNC will not sue the NCAA or anyone else that is related to TGU. The absolute last thing they want is an opportunity for more discovery.
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BL:
Accepting the NCAA sanctions without appeal / countersuit would be "the smart play".... since when has UNC opted for "the smart play" in any of this?
http://www.bobleesays.com/Blogs/BobLee-Says/May-2015/From-A-Clobber-to-A-Wrist-Slap.aspx
morris robertson
ncaa is penalyzing unc by not making a decision. i think unc law school graduates should sue for a conclusion. unc cannot draw athletes as long as they delay.
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Do The Crime - Serve The Time - Get on With Life is usually the best path....
Dr. Vinnyboombatz
UNC will not sue the NCAA or anyone else that is related to TGU. The absolute last thing they want is an opportunity for more discovery.
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BL:
Accepting the NCAA sanctions without appeal / countersuit would be "the smart play".... since when has UNC opted for "the smart play" in any of this?
http://www.bobleesays.com/Blogs/BobLee-Says/May-2015/From-A-Clobber-to-A-Wrist-Slap.aspx
Coaching the Mind @BethelLearning
Jay Smith and Public Records http://coachingthemind.blogspot.com/2015/0...ecords.html?m=1 …
Tal Link @talunc
@BethelLearning funny & hypocritical that Smith thinks his email should be protected when everyone else's should be public record @yibyabby
B. Martin @yibyabby
@talunc You're misunderstanding @BethelLearning in interpretating that @jaysmith711 thinks his emails should be protected.
Tal Link @talunc
@yibyabby @BethelLearning @jaysmith711 he has said that his email were protected esp those associated with ARG
B. Martin @yibyabby
@talunc That blog entry doesn't support the stmt you tweeted previously. But @BethelLearning favoriting your tweet suggests he disagrees.
Coaching the Mind @BethelLearning
@yibyabby No, but Smith's requesting those emails after arguing emails unrelated to job function should be protected is hypocritical.
B. Martin @yibyabby
@BethelLearning Are you suggesting Dr. Smith has had a hand in blocking or delaying fulfillment of your public records request?
B. Martin @yibyabby
@BethelLearning @jaysmith711 I see what's going on now. This is more than just Twitter and blog brick bats. Hugh Stevens is on the case.
Jay Smith@jaysmith711
@yibyabby @BethelLearning Boosters have been behind BB's campaign for a very long time.
B. Martin @yibyabby
@jaysmith711 Having boosters behind him is one thing; but having Stevens and Huffman angling in his corner...beyond games of rhetoric.
Tal Link @talunc
@yibyabby @jaysmith711 maybe it's finally time both sides get a say?
B. Martin @yibyabby
@talunc @jaysmith711 By all means, have a say; but I think it's past time for all sides (& there are more than 2) to engage with decorum.
Tal Link @talunc
@yibyabby @jaysmith711 start with professor smith- it would be s first for him
Coaching the Mind @BethelLearning
@yibyabby @jaysmith711 Smith & Willingham have had Michael Hausfeld in their corner since before I started blogging.
B. Martin @yibyabby
@BethelLearning I wasn't criticizing. I just hadn't realized you'd been working with them as counsel.
Dave @heel9091
@jaysmith711 @yibyabby @BethelLearning BB's supporters aren't angling for a percentage of damages. BB's not their puppet. BB's not for sale.
I included the entire exchange ( for now anyway ) but I just wanna comment on 2 things. First of all "@talunc" is certifiable. He's as bad as any number of tarhole apologists on social media. There's some who are as crazy as he is but none moreso. Also , the last tweet. The one about B-Rad not "angling' for anything. B-Rad's obviously "for sale." His price , I'm guessing , is money and a chance to pursue his pipe-dream of being a filmmaker. "Notoriety" and other factors are part of it but the first two are undoubtedly his price. Also , he IS the "puppet" of unx boosters and those boosters are "angling" for much more than any percentage they could ever pay 'im. They're "angling" for banners , wins , what's left of unx's shredded rep and the future of unx athletics...men's basketball in particular. Some other things too. Hypothetically speaking , if unx was given the judgement they deserve , a ton of people stand to lose their careers. Never mind Roy and those directly related to athletics. Any professors , administrators , tutors , "learning specialists" , whatever would likely get canned if the pervasiveness of the scandal were revealed. unx can't put a price on any of that so this notion that B-Rad and/or the boosters aren't "angling" for anything is a lie. Jus' sayin.'
Jay Smith and Public Records http://coachingthemind.blogspot.com/2015/0...ecords.html?m=1 …
Tal Link @talunc
@BethelLearning funny & hypocritical that Smith thinks his email should be protected when everyone else's should be public record @yibyabby
B. Martin @yibyabby
@talunc You're misunderstanding @BethelLearning in interpretating that @jaysmith711 thinks his emails should be protected.
Tal Link @talunc
@yibyabby @BethelLearning @jaysmith711 he has said that his email were protected esp those associated with ARG
B. Martin @yibyabby
@talunc That blog entry doesn't support the stmt you tweeted previously. But @BethelLearning favoriting your tweet suggests he disagrees.
Coaching the Mind @BethelLearning
@yibyabby No, but Smith's requesting those emails after arguing emails unrelated to job function should be protected is hypocritical.
B. Martin @yibyabby
@BethelLearning Are you suggesting Dr. Smith has had a hand in blocking or delaying fulfillment of your public records request?
B. Martin @yibyabby
@BethelLearning @jaysmith711 I see what's going on now. This is more than just Twitter and blog brick bats. Hugh Stevens is on the case.
Jay Smith@jaysmith711
@yibyabby @BethelLearning Boosters have been behind BB's campaign for a very long time.
B. Martin @yibyabby
@jaysmith711 Having boosters behind him is one thing; but having Stevens and Huffman angling in his corner...beyond games of rhetoric.
Tal Link @talunc
@yibyabby @jaysmith711 maybe it's finally time both sides get a say?
B. Martin @yibyabby
@talunc @jaysmith711 By all means, have a say; but I think it's past time for all sides (& there are more than 2) to engage with decorum.
Tal Link @talunc
@yibyabby @jaysmith711 start with professor smith- it would be s first for him
Coaching the Mind @BethelLearning
@yibyabby @jaysmith711 Smith & Willingham have had Michael Hausfeld in their corner since before I started blogging.
B. Martin @yibyabby
@BethelLearning I wasn't criticizing. I just hadn't realized you'd been working with them as counsel.
Dave @heel9091
@jaysmith711 @yibyabby @BethelLearning BB's supporters aren't angling for a percentage of damages. BB's not their puppet. BB's not for sale.
I included the entire exchange ( for now anyway ) but I just wanna comment on 2 things. First of all "@talunc" is certifiable. He's as bad as any number of tarhole apologists on social media. There's some who are as crazy as he is but none moreso. Also , the last tweet. The one about B-Rad not "angling' for anything. B-Rad's obviously "for sale." His price , I'm guessing , is money and a chance to pursue his pipe-dream of being a filmmaker. "Notoriety" and other factors are part of it but the first two are undoubtedly his price. Also , he IS the "puppet" of unx boosters and those boosters are "angling" for much more than any percentage they could ever pay 'im. They're "angling" for banners , wins , what's left of unx's shredded rep and the future of unx athletics...men's basketball in particular. Some other things too. Hypothetically speaking , if unx was given the judgement they deserve , a ton of people stand to lose their careers. Never mind Roy and those directly related to athletics. Any professors , administrators , tutors , "learning specialists" , whatever would likely get canned if the pervasiveness of the scandal were revealed. unx can't put a price on any of that so this notion that B-Rad and/or the boosters aren't "angling" for anything is a lie. Jus' sayin.'
Oh, no doubt Bradley is on the take. This crusade he's on isn't for free. He's doing his best to suck up as many those dollars, that UNC is throwing around, as possible.
OFC
Posting Details
Position Information
Position Type Temporary Staff (SPA)
Job Title Class Checker
Department Name Ath Basketball Office - Historical
Vacancy ID S005344
Position Posting Category Athletics
Hiring Range $10.61/per hour
Full-time/Part-time Part Time
If part-time, how many hours per week?
Work Schedule
Proposed Start Date 08/27/2014
Estimated Duration of Appointment Open-ended/Intermittent
Posting Open Date 08/20/2014
Posting Close Date 05/31/2015
Description of Work
*THIS IS A CONTINUOUS POSTING. THIS RECRUITMENT WILL REMAIN OPEN UNTIL ALL POSITONS ARE FILLED.
Monitor class attendance for designed student-athletes. Issue daily reports to assigned Supervisor.
Education and Experience
Bachelor’s degree; or equivalent combination of training and experience. All degrees must be received from appropriately accredited institutions.
Ability to navigate campus buildings. Must be able to create a system of monitoring class attendance without disrupting classroom activity.
Special Physical and Mental Requirements
Equal Opportunity Employer
The University of North carolina at Chapel Hill is an equal opportunity, affirmative action employer and welcomes all to apply regardless of race, color, gender, national origin, age, religion, creed, genetic information, sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression. We also encourage protected veterans and individuals with disabilities to apply.
https://unc.peopleadmin.com/postings/49854
Position Information
Position Type Temporary Staff (SPA)
Job Title Class Checker
Department Name Ath Basketball Office - Historical
Vacancy ID S005344
Position Posting Category Athletics
Hiring Range $10.61/per hour
Full-time/Part-time Part Time
If part-time, how many hours per week?
Work Schedule
Proposed Start Date 08/27/2014
Estimated Duration of Appointment Open-ended/Intermittent
Posting Open Date 08/20/2014
Posting Close Date 05/31/2015
Description of Work
*THIS IS A CONTINUOUS POSTING. THIS RECRUITMENT WILL REMAIN OPEN UNTIL ALL POSITONS ARE FILLED.
Monitor class attendance for designed student-athletes. Issue daily reports to assigned Supervisor.
Education and Experience
Bachelor’s degree; or equivalent combination of training and experience. All degrees must be received from appropriately accredited institutions.
Ability to navigate campus buildings. Must be able to create a system of monitoring class attendance without disrupting classroom activity.
Special Physical and Mental Requirements
Equal Opportunity Employer
The University of North carolina at Chapel Hill is an equal opportunity, affirmative action employer and welcomes all to apply regardless of race, color, gender, national origin, age, religion, creed, genetic information, sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression. We also encourage protected veterans and individuals with disabilities to apply.
https://unc.peopleadmin.com/postings/49854
Per Twitter, the NC General Assembly recognized Duke for their National Championship today. During Coach K's speech he said the following:
"It's great that our state is the best in basketball but let's work together to make North Carolina the best state for education."
A jab at UNC and their scandal?
"It's great that our state is the best in basketball but let's work together to make North Carolina the best state for education."
A jab at UNC and their scandal?
I wondered about that too. Unsure though. What I'm NOT unsure about is the Haterade in that room today. Sure , those in attendance went thru all the niceties an' such but it was all for show. Every politician there was either a unx alum , a unx fan , beholdin' to unx support or all three. Put Roy and his corrupt program in there and the party's STILL goin' strong. Dollars to doughnuts , today was all about forced smiles and a lotta elected officials lookin' at their watches.
Opinion: unc’s legal defense in athletes’ lawsuit is hypocritical
On May 15, unc filed additional documents in a suit brought against the University by former unc athletes Rashanda McCants and Devon Ramsay. The NCAA was also named as a defendant.
The suit alleges that unc violated implied contracts by failing to provide the plaintiffs with an adequate education in exchange for their athletic performances. It also alleges that the NCAA failed to “protect the education and educational opportunities of student-athletes (including the provision of academically sound courses).”
According to documents obtained by CBS Sports, part of unc’s defense is that there are no grounds for the assertion that unc had a legal responsibility to provide an adequate education.
This defense from unc is hypocritical given their support for a model that proposes to compensate athletes with education.
McCants and her brother Rashad have long been speaking out on behalf of student-athletes who took “paper” classes.
Rashad McCants told ESPN in 2014 that he thought he didn’t have to go to class.
“You just show up and play,” he said.
“You’re not there to get an education, though they tell you that.”
In short, the McCants siblings and Ramsay played for no pay but were supposedly compensated with a world class unc education. But Rashad McCants’ unofficial transcript shows that he received 10 A’s in his African-American studies classes. In his classes outside the Department of African and Afro-American Studies, he received six C’s and three failing grades. He told ESPN that he assumed tutors writing papers for athletes was to be expected.
The University administration supports the collegiate model, under which scholarships are exchanged for an athlete’s skills. In order for this system to function with semblance of fairness, the University has to hold up their end of the bargain — assuring that students are indeed receiving a quality education, not being directed to fraudulent classes.
In unc’s court filings is a clear instance of the University avoiding responsibility for allowing McCants and Ramsay to receive inadequate compensation.
The unc administration can’t have it both ways. Under the current model, an athlete agrees to work without pay and in turn, bring money and prestige to the University.
If the University really believes that an education is concrete and adequate compensation for athletes’ services, they should not pretend otherwise in rebutting litigation for that compensation.
http://www.dailytarheel.com/article...l-defense-in-athletes-lawsuit-is-hypocritical
On May 15, unc filed additional documents in a suit brought against the University by former unc athletes Rashanda McCants and Devon Ramsay. The NCAA was also named as a defendant.
The suit alleges that unc violated implied contracts by failing to provide the plaintiffs with an adequate education in exchange for their athletic performances. It also alleges that the NCAA failed to “protect the education and educational opportunities of student-athletes (including the provision of academically sound courses).”
According to documents obtained by CBS Sports, part of unc’s defense is that there are no grounds for the assertion that unc had a legal responsibility to provide an adequate education.
This defense from unc is hypocritical given their support for a model that proposes to compensate athletes with education.
McCants and her brother Rashad have long been speaking out on behalf of student-athletes who took “paper” classes.
Rashad McCants told ESPN in 2014 that he thought he didn’t have to go to class.
“You just show up and play,” he said.
“You’re not there to get an education, though they tell you that.”
In short, the McCants siblings and Ramsay played for no pay but were supposedly compensated with a world class unc education. But Rashad McCants’ unofficial transcript shows that he received 10 A’s in his African-American studies classes. In his classes outside the Department of African and Afro-American Studies, he received six C’s and three failing grades. He told ESPN that he assumed tutors writing papers for athletes was to be expected.
The University administration supports the collegiate model, under which scholarships are exchanged for an athlete’s skills. In order for this system to function with semblance of fairness, the University has to hold up their end of the bargain — assuring that students are indeed receiving a quality education, not being directed to fraudulent classes.
In unc’s court filings is a clear instance of the University avoiding responsibility for allowing McCants and Ramsay to receive inadequate compensation.
The unc administration can’t have it both ways. Under the current model, an athlete agrees to work without pay and in turn, bring money and prestige to the University.
If the University really believes that an education is concrete and adequate compensation for athletes’ services, they should not pretend otherwise in rebutting litigation for that compensation.
http://www.dailytarheel.com/article...l-defense-in-athletes-lawsuit-is-hypocritical
Poor Roy.....
Roy Williams calls UNC 'most investigated program in history of college athletics'
If you're waiting to find out what the NCAA's allegations of misconduct are against the UNC basketball program, you can take your seat right alongside Roy Williams.
Williams, who was in Asheville, N.C., on Sunday evening for his induction in the WNC Hall of Fame, spoke candidly about the alleged academic misconduct at North Carolina and its effect on his players, the school and himself.
"It would help if the NCAA would just tell us what the allegations are. That would help because it would give us the information," he told the Citizen Times. "It's been a hard process, and I know that has been quite a lot of negative recruiting going on and other things that don't make you very happy."
Williams said he felt that the Tar Heels missed out on of the nation's elite recruits due to their growing uncertainty about whether the NCAA would potentially put the school on probation. He acknowledged that there was impropriety, but pointed out that he felt it was greatly exaggerated.
"We made some mistakes at our university, mistakes we are not proud of. And yet it has been so sensationalized, just off the charts about what has happened.
"We're about the most investigated program in the history of college athletics. We had two internal investigations, former Governor (Jim) Martin did an investigation, then the Wainstein Report (from a) federal prosecutor, and now the NCAA," he said.
"There's no words they haven't seen, I can tell you that."
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-ba...heels-unc-academic-scandal-ncaa-investigation
Azzload of lies from Roy. Amusing that he considers the Martin dog-n-pony show to be anything other than the sham that it was. What a thin-skinned little dork. Hey Roy...you and your employer/alma mater are the dirtiest in NCAA history. Ya tend to invite investigations by governing bodies when ya cheat for 20+ years. Here's some advice. Stop cheating. Own your violations...ALL of 'em. Stop the PR and scapegoating nonsense , self sanction and take your medicine.
Roy Williams calls UNC 'most investigated program in history of college athletics'
If you're waiting to find out what the NCAA's allegations of misconduct are against the UNC basketball program, you can take your seat right alongside Roy Williams.
Williams, who was in Asheville, N.C., on Sunday evening for his induction in the WNC Hall of Fame, spoke candidly about the alleged academic misconduct at North Carolina and its effect on his players, the school and himself.
"It would help if the NCAA would just tell us what the allegations are. That would help because it would give us the information," he told the Citizen Times. "It's been a hard process, and I know that has been quite a lot of negative recruiting going on and other things that don't make you very happy."
Williams said he felt that the Tar Heels missed out on of the nation's elite recruits due to their growing uncertainty about whether the NCAA would potentially put the school on probation. He acknowledged that there was impropriety, but pointed out that he felt it was greatly exaggerated.
"We made some mistakes at our university, mistakes we are not proud of. And yet it has been so sensationalized, just off the charts about what has happened.
"We're about the most investigated program in the history of college athletics. We had two internal investigations, former Governor (Jim) Martin did an investigation, then the Wainstein Report (from a) federal prosecutor, and now the NCAA," he said.
"There's no words they haven't seen, I can tell you that."
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-ba...heels-unc-academic-scandal-ncaa-investigation
Azzload of lies from Roy. Amusing that he considers the Martin dog-n-pony show to be anything other than the sham that it was. What a thin-skinned little dork. Hey Roy...you and your employer/alma mater are the dirtiest in NCAA history. Ya tend to invite investigations by governing bodies when ya cheat for 20+ years. Here's some advice. Stop cheating. Own your violations...ALL of 'em. Stop the PR and scapegoating nonsense , self sanction and take your medicine.
Two journalists. One local one national....
Chris McClain @macwfnz
Oh lordy this isn't going to play well …
Kami Mattioli @kmattio
@Duvisited I just think it’s funny that he wonders why they’re targeted (my words, not his)
Chris McClain @macwfnz
Oh lordy this isn't going to play well …
Kami Mattioli @kmattio
@Duvisited I just think it’s funny that he wonders why they’re targeted (my words, not his)
Student/athletes not included. #carolinaway...
unc: Companies aren't preparing their leaders for a global market
The world is getting smaller every day and businesses are becoming more global as a result. Still, few companies have a good strategy to provide the training needed to compete globally, according to a new study by the unc Kenan-Flagler Business School and the Human Capital Institute.
“A globally competent individual has the right attitude, knowledge, skills and functional business expertise to effectively work within and across cultures,” says David Roberts, a unc Kenan-Flagler professor who teaches about affecting organizational change to achieve strategic goals for unc Executive Development.
Research findings were based on a survey of more than 300 human resources and training and development professionals. More than 60 percent responded that the need to develop global competence is urgent and 92 percent say it can be developed through training.
However, global leadership development at most organizations is in a poor state. Consider that more than one-third said their “organizations are underdeveloped in multicultural sensitivity,” and more than half of organizations with global operations struggle to recruit talent for global leadership positions.
Most organizations aren’t taking a proactive or hands-on approach, says Kip Kelly of unc Executive Development, but the most effective methods are deliberate and experiential. “They need to do much more than send individuals on business trips – they need a complete top-to-bottom training strategy. That kind of investment gives both organizations and individuals a competitive advantage.”
http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle...nies-arent-preparing-their-leaders-for-a.html
unc: Companies aren't preparing their leaders for a global market
The world is getting smaller every day and businesses are becoming more global as a result. Still, few companies have a good strategy to provide the training needed to compete globally, according to a new study by the unc Kenan-Flagler Business School and the Human Capital Institute.
“A globally competent individual has the right attitude, knowledge, skills and functional business expertise to effectively work within and across cultures,” says David Roberts, a unc Kenan-Flagler professor who teaches about affecting organizational change to achieve strategic goals for unc Executive Development.
Research findings were based on a survey of more than 300 human resources and training and development professionals. More than 60 percent responded that the need to develop global competence is urgent and 92 percent say it can be developed through training.
However, global leadership development at most organizations is in a poor state. Consider that more than one-third said their “organizations are underdeveloped in multicultural sensitivity,” and more than half of organizations with global operations struggle to recruit talent for global leadership positions.
Most organizations aren’t taking a proactive or hands-on approach, says Kip Kelly of unc Executive Development, but the most effective methods are deliberate and experiential. “They need to do much more than send individuals on business trips – they need a complete top-to-bottom training strategy. That kind of investment gives both organizations and individuals a competitive advantage.”
http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle...nies-arent-preparing-their-leaders-for-a.html
After calling for a boycott of a store selling "Cheated" some yay-hoo and B-Rad attack Smith...
Booker Knows@bourbonooga
Disappointed to hear that @ParkRoadBooks promotes @paperclassinc book. Letting all Charlotte friends and family know to avoid your store.
Jay Smith@jaysmith711
Must not encounter ideas we don't like. Must not encounter ideas we don't like.......
The unc way? #Cheated
B. David Ridpath @drridpath
@jaysmith711 would not want to have search for the truth now would we??
DevilDJ @DevilDJ32
@jaysmith711 @ParkRoadBooks Since when does his type enter a bookstore anyway? #yayhoo pic.twitter.com/2t0i3j4GzT
JD TOMMY @jdthomas59
@jaysmith711 @paperclassinc
May that gentleman wallow in his ignorance in Charlotte!
Jay Smith @jaysmith711
@drridpath We have become allergic to honest talk down here, it's quite the violent allergy.
DevilDJ @DevilDJ32
@jaysmith711 @drridpath @Rand_Getlin @AuthorPMBarrett @sganim @macwfnz #honesttalk pic.twitter.com/rFNhI0QfvT
Booker Knows @bourbonooga
@jaysmith711 I prefer sources, as a professional, that do not come from people who plagiarize or violate students' privacy and confidence
Mr. Bustin Clays @citori525
@jaysmith711 @bourbonooga @ParkRoadBooks @paperclassinc just another BB crazed message board looney here. Nothing to see folks. #uncheat
B. David Ridpath @drridpath
@jaysmith711 sad in America.
Jay Smith @jaysmith711
@bourbonooga She did not plagiarize (ask uncG if you don't believe me), and no one has been violated. We advocate for, do not violate.
Booker Knows @bourbonooga
@jaysmith711 Comply with the FOIA request, have Mary release her methodology, and provide a reason why you were added 2 the IRB for the book
Jay Smith @jaysmith711
@bourbonooga It's not about "Mary's methodology" anymore, and never really was. FYI, I have complied with every FOIA request, and very cooperatively. They take time. BB should know that by now. Why I was added? I've said before publicly. So I could have legitimate access to the data. Pretty simple.
Coaching the Mind @BethelLearning
@bourbonooga Smith has blocked me. Ask him what it is about if it isn't about the methodology.
Booker Knows @bourbonooga
@jaysmith711 I know what you previously said. I was seeking a legitimate reason other than for your for-profit joint venture.
Jay Smith @jaysmith711
@bourbonooga Writing a book is not a legitimate venture for a college professor? Hmm. Which college did you go to again?
Booker Knows @bourbonooga
@jaysmith711 When a human subjects researcher has a disclaimer that the only risk of participation in the study is that one may discover that one has a learning disability, and then in turn that same researcher uses the results for alternative and therefore also ulterior motives and then adds a French literature professor to the study for "access" to human subjects research for a for-profit book and joint venture...you see no ethical issue? It is obvious that "Mary's methodology" was the stepping stone for you, Drake Group and Hausfeld camp and no longer is But, her methodology has always been crucial to legitimizing her claims. And has always been sought by "the other side." An analytical researcher claiming it was never about the methodology is akin to a lawyer claiming it was never about the law...
Booker Knows@bourbonooga
Disappointed to hear that @ParkRoadBooks promotes @paperclassinc book. Letting all Charlotte friends and family know to avoid your store.
Jay Smith@jaysmith711
Must not encounter ideas we don't like. Must not encounter ideas we don't like.......
The unc way? #Cheated
B. David Ridpath @drridpath
@jaysmith711 would not want to have search for the truth now would we??
DevilDJ @DevilDJ32
@jaysmith711 @ParkRoadBooks Since when does his type enter a bookstore anyway? #yayhoo pic.twitter.com/2t0i3j4GzT
JD TOMMY @jdthomas59
@jaysmith711 @paperclassinc
May that gentleman wallow in his ignorance in Charlotte!
Jay Smith @jaysmith711
@drridpath We have become allergic to honest talk down here, it's quite the violent allergy.
DevilDJ @DevilDJ32
@jaysmith711 @drridpath @Rand_Getlin @AuthorPMBarrett @sganim @macwfnz #honesttalk pic.twitter.com/rFNhI0QfvT
Booker Knows @bourbonooga
@jaysmith711 I prefer sources, as a professional, that do not come from people who plagiarize or violate students' privacy and confidence
Mr. Bustin Clays @citori525
@jaysmith711 @bourbonooga @ParkRoadBooks @paperclassinc just another BB crazed message board looney here. Nothing to see folks. #uncheat
B. David Ridpath @drridpath
@jaysmith711 sad in America.
Jay Smith @jaysmith711
@bourbonooga She did not plagiarize (ask uncG if you don't believe me), and no one has been violated. We advocate for, do not violate.
Booker Knows @bourbonooga
@jaysmith711 Comply with the FOIA request, have Mary release her methodology, and provide a reason why you were added 2 the IRB for the book
Jay Smith @jaysmith711
@bourbonooga It's not about "Mary's methodology" anymore, and never really was. FYI, I have complied with every FOIA request, and very cooperatively. They take time. BB should know that by now. Why I was added? I've said before publicly. So I could have legitimate access to the data. Pretty simple.
Coaching the Mind @BethelLearning
@bourbonooga Smith has blocked me. Ask him what it is about if it isn't about the methodology.
Booker Knows @bourbonooga
@jaysmith711 I know what you previously said. I was seeking a legitimate reason other than for your for-profit joint venture.
Jay Smith @jaysmith711
@bourbonooga Writing a book is not a legitimate venture for a college professor? Hmm. Which college did you go to again?
Booker Knows @bourbonooga
@jaysmith711 When a human subjects researcher has a disclaimer that the only risk of participation in the study is that one may discover that one has a learning disability, and then in turn that same researcher uses the results for alternative and therefore also ulterior motives and then adds a French literature professor to the study for "access" to human subjects research for a for-profit book and joint venture...you see no ethical issue? It is obvious that "Mary's methodology" was the stepping stone for you, Drake Group and Hausfeld camp and no longer is But, her methodology has always been crucial to legitimizing her claims. And has always been sought by "the other side." An analytical researcher claiming it was never about the methodology is akin to a lawyer claiming it was never about the law...
"In short ,a great many victories , and probably more than one national championship , owed something to unc's scandalous academic permissiveness and its acceptance of a double-standard curricular system that shielded athletes ( particularly in the profit sports ) from the full burdens and risks imposed by a normal course of study at a university. Duke and NC State fans have every right to be angry."
- Cheated
- Cheated
The REAL Beginning of the UNC Scandal
http://www.tickcounter.com/countup/19880818000000am/w252a/The_REAL_Beginning_of_the_UNC_Scandal
http://www.tickcounter.com/countup/19880818000000am/w252a/The_REAL_Beginning_of_the_UNC_Scandal
Does this guy even KNOW how much of a tool he is? Gawd! B-Rad...
http://coachingthemind.blogspot.com/
http://coachingthemind.blogspot.com/
Holy cow! Here's an excerpt:
Smith & Willingham also believe they are justified because they are ostensibly functioning as whistleblowers. However, they—and their supporters—fundamentally misunderstand the relation between whistleblowers and private documents. Edward Snowden gathered and disseminated official government documents and communications between governmental administrators, showing that the government spies on innocent private citizens. He did not himself spy on innocent private citizens and then release information thereby gathered. A whistleblower does not violate the privacy of the very people for whom he or she claims to be advocating. Yet that is exactly what Smith & Willingham have done. Contrary to their distorted self-portrayals, Smith & Willingham are more comparable to the Sony hackers than to Edward Snowden
So Bradley thinks that Edward Snowden is a real example of a whistleblower, while Mary Willingham & Jay Smith are the equivalent of the Sony hackers? Wow...
OFC
The mother of all scandals is unfolding at University of North carolina, where over a period of thirteen years 3,100 students took sham courses. Most of these students were athletes, who had been directed to those particular courses by the athletic department’s academic support staff. Some of the courses never existed in any form; there were no instructors, no classes, and no assignments. For other courses, students wrote fake papers. The convention was that students could cut and paste material from the web and submit it as their own work, provided they cited the source. The citations provided a pretense that the paper was not plagiarized, or at least were so accepted by the instructors.
http://www.carltbogus.com/edmund-a-blog/91-dear-alma-mater
http://www.carltbogus.com/edmund-a-blog/91-dear-alma-mater
Four men’s teams banned from 2016 postseason due to APR scores
Alcorn State, Florida A&M, Stetson and Central Arkansas are the four men’s teams that will be sitting out next year’s postseason, while on the women’s side, Savannah State will be ineligible for the postseason.
COMMENTS:
Way to stick it to the powerhouses of college basketball NCAA……going to ban North carolina?…..I doubt it.
Here I thought Stetson would win it all in 2016. Guess I will have to support Alcorn St oh I forgot they want be there either. Darn. Guess I will support that bastion of academic honesty unc
The bomb is ticking at unc with their NOA being delivered last week. Let’s see if the NCAA will finally do the right thing after 30 years of documented cheating in multiple sports.
Mr. Emmert, Tear down those banners!
Webster’s Dictionary
Cojones: (ko-ho-nays)
noun: bold courage to vacate an NCAA national championship when a “blue blood” basketball program is found to have cheated on eligibility-affecting academics at the same time.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspo...6-postseason-due-to-apr-scores/#comment-28299
Alcorn State, Florida A&M, Stetson and Central Arkansas are the four men’s teams that will be sitting out next year’s postseason, while on the women’s side, Savannah State will be ineligible for the postseason.
COMMENTS:
Way to stick it to the powerhouses of college basketball NCAA……going to ban North carolina?…..I doubt it.
Here I thought Stetson would win it all in 2016. Guess I will have to support Alcorn St oh I forgot they want be there either. Darn. Guess I will support that bastion of academic honesty unc
The bomb is ticking at unc with their NOA being delivered last week. Let’s see if the NCAA will finally do the right thing after 30 years of documented cheating in multiple sports.
Mr. Emmert, Tear down those banners!
Webster’s Dictionary
Cojones: (ko-ho-nays)
noun: bold courage to vacate an NCAA national championship when a “blue blood” basketball program is found to have cheated on eligibility-affecting academics at the same time.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspo...6-postseason-due-to-apr-scores/#comment-28299
DFL in ACC APR scores and THIS is the headline!?!?! WTF?!?!?! LMAO....!!!!!
unc's Football and Basketball APR Scores Are A Tad Worrisome
On the football side, the multiyear APR is up to 938 from 934. The multiyear average is based on four years of scores. unc is presently last in the ACC in this number.
Like in football, the 2010-11 school year was not kind and provides a number that unc has to live with for at least one more cycle. The departure of Will Graves prior to the 2010-11 season and Larry Drew during it did serious damage to the APR. unc rebounded with a 959 the following season but followed that up with a 917 for the 2012-13 season. The result is a 938 over four years which is also last in the ACC.
http://www.tarheelblog.com/2014/5/1...and-basketball-apr-scores-are-a-tad-worrisome
unc's Football and Basketball APR Scores Are A Tad Worrisome
On the football side, the multiyear APR is up to 938 from 934. The multiyear average is based on four years of scores. unc is presently last in the ACC in this number.
Like in football, the 2010-11 school year was not kind and provides a number that unc has to live with for at least one more cycle. The departure of Will Graves prior to the 2010-11 season and Larry Drew during it did serious damage to the APR. unc rebounded with a 959 the following season but followed that up with a 917 for the 2012-13 season. The result is a 938 over four years which is also last in the ACC.
http://www.tarheelblog.com/2014/5/1...and-basketball-apr-scores-are-a-tad-worrisome
Jay Smith @jaysmith711
'The problem is not...bad people. The problem is that the system forces good people to close their eyes' to flaws...
http://www.carltbogus.com/edmund-a-blog/91-dear-alma-mater …
Gerald Gurney@GeraldGurney1
@jaysmith711 disagree. These are bad people with no conscience.
Gurney is president of The Drake Group. unx'ers hate him AND the group. Can't imagine why. Love the Home Page...
http://thedrakegroup.org/
'The problem is not...bad people. The problem is that the system forces good people to close their eyes' to flaws...
http://www.carltbogus.com/edmund-a-blog/91-dear-alma-mater …
Gerald Gurney@GeraldGurney1
@jaysmith711 disagree. These are bad people with no conscience.
Gurney is president of The Drake Group. unx'ers hate him AND the group. Can't imagine why. Love the Home Page...
http://thedrakegroup.org/
Might as well insert these here. Couple of good ones. The original...
The chops...
The chops...
Marcus Henry: Phase out athletics
Regarding the May 27 article “56 unc degrees dropped”: The unc system is phasing out programs with low graduation rates. Why not phase out basketball and football? Their graduation rates are appalling.
MARCUS HENRY
REIDSVILLE
http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article22636692.html
lol
Regarding the May 27 article “56 unc degrees dropped”: The unc system is phasing out programs with low graduation rates. Why not phase out basketball and football? Their graduation rates are appalling.
MARCUS HENRY
REIDSVILLE
http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article22636692.html
lol
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