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Official Gameday thread- duke vs nc state

I've heard this discussed lots of times. I don't know names, but several of the top guys like Sharpe and Bates reclassed.
 
Roach had not made the jump so far. He was the glue that was supposed to hold all these pieces together. Maybe he can turn it around but he is following the pattern of last season. After the tournament last year he should be one of the top guards in the country. Outside of 2 or 3 games he has not been that guy. And if he is not that guy we are not going to beat UNC or Virginia or Miami. He can be that guy, but he needs to do it consistently and when it counts.
 
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Roach had not made the jump so far. He was the glue that was supposed to hold all these pieces together. Maybe he can turn it around but he is following the pattern of last season. After the tournament last year he should be one of the top guards in the country. Outside of 2 or 3 games he has not been that guy. And if he is not that guy we are not going to beat UNC or Virginia or Miami. He can be that guy, but he needs to do it consistently and when it counts.
Not gonna happen. This seasons donzo
 
A lot of us are looking way to past things ( notice how I said us) . Nolan wasn’t a pure pg , Scheyer became it . Moore wasn’t , yet the ball moved better with him as lead guard. There is a lot of time to right this ship . Yes Proctor needs a wake up call( probably the one closest to a true pg on the team ) . Roach is better off ball . Blakes is doing what he is asked to the best of his capabilities.
What’s to say this isn’t Scheyers plan ? Make these recruited see they aren’t as good as their rankings but can be ? Get Proctor, Mitchell and Flip to stay with Schutt, Blakes and Young and damn the future is so bright I’ll ware shades ( I’m blind with out corrective lenses by the way ) . Not saying it happens but those players mixed with what’s coming in next season and Wow. Sometimes everyone has a game plan until they get hit ! Tyson
 
If I thought this group would all be back next year (except Whitehead/Lively) I'd be far more cheerful than I am. But this is Duke, where second years go to die. Roach, Proctor, Blakes, Schutt, Reeves, Flip Mitchell and Young back would make be a believer again. Now that would be something to get excited about. Not watching another new group of 5 stars try to figure it out yet again.
 
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No you are right. He’s a scoring guard like I mentioned. Wouldn’t really put him as a pure pg . A pure pg can dish out assist along with scoring . Nothing wrong with being a scoring guard you just have to learn when the pass is warranted. There was a reason Moore played a lot at pg and started the offense .
Roach actually isn’t a terrible passer but this injury and being forced to score this year has helped him regress with passing. I’m a fan of the kid. He came back to lead this team and he’s had an unfortunate nagging injury….

A healthy Roach is the best lead guard for this team but that doesn’t seem to be an option right now.
 
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Roach actually isn’t a terrible passer but this injury and being forced to score this year has helped him regress with passing. I’m a fan of the kid. He came back to lead this team and he’s had an unfortunate nagging injury….

A healthy Roach is the best lead guard for this team but that doesn’t seem to be an option right now.
When has he ever averaged more then seven assist? I’m behind you 44. He could have left and went else where. But now is the time to show his pg skills and running down court with not passing it off to Whitehead with a miss field goal is not the prime example of a true pg while being down .
 
When has he ever averaged more then seven assist? I’m behind you 44. He could have left and went else where. But now is the time to show his pg skills and running down court with not passing it off to Whitehead with a miss field goal is not the prime example of a true pg while being down .
Do you mean 7assist per game average? That would be awesome!
 
Roach had not made the jump so far. He was the glue that was supposed to hold all these pieces together. Maybe he can turn it around but he is following the pattern of last season. After the tournament last year he should be one of the top guards in the country. Outside of 2 or 3 games he has not been that guy. And if he is not that guy we are not going to beat UNC or Virginia or Miami. He can be that guy, but he needs to do it consistently and when it counts.
You could easily add Pitt, Va Tech, NC State again, Wake Forest Again, and Clemson (which crushed NC State) to the list. OFC
 
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A lot of us are looking way to past things ( notice how I said us) . Nolan wasn’t a pure pg , Scheyer became it . Moore wasn’t , yet the ball moved better with him as lead guard. There is a lot of time to right this ship . Yes Proctor needs a wake up call( probably the one closest to a true pg on the team ) . Roach is better off ball . Blakes is doing what he is asked to the best of his capabilities.
What’s to say this isn’t Scheyers plan ? Make these recruited see they aren’t as good as their rankings but can be ? Get Proctor, Mitchell and Flip to stay with Schutt, Blakes and Young and damn the future is so bright I’ll ware shades ( I’m blind with out corrective lenses by the way ) . Not saying it happens but those players mixed with what’s coming in next season and Wow. Sometimes everyone has a game plan until they get hit ! Tyson
Sad that we have to be talking about next season already. So this team's record is not at all Jon's fault, but should be attributed to over-rated players? Really? What indication is there that even with the next batch of OAD's we will be any better than we are now? Talent by itself does not win games. Talent needs solid coaching to do that. Coaching is what makes cohesive TEAM play achievable. It is still way too early to conclude that Jon can do that. Let's see what happens today at BC.

OFC
 
Well why don't we have a point guard now? Do not think Blakes was recruited as a point guard. OFC
He was . I’m not sure why rivals changed his category to shooting guard but I do remember him being listed as a pg at rivals for a long time. He’s also listed as a pg on 247

 
Chris Paul was first team all American and an NBA all star. Everyone would like a guard like him. (Except for the dirty play)
 
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Sad that we have to be talking about next season already. So this team's record is not at all Jon's fault, but should be attributed to over-rated players? Really? What indication is there that even with the next batch of OAD's we will be any better than we are now? Talent by itself does not win games. Talent needs solid coaching to do that. Coaching is what makes cohesive TEAM play achievable. It is still way too early to conclude that Jon can do that. Let's see what happens today at BC.

OFC
I wouldn't say it's all Jon's fault, but there are definitely some over-rated players on the team who haven't been performing up to expectations. Talent alone doesn't win games, you're right, however, I'm not sure if Jon can deliver a foster cohesive teamwork just yet. And do you think the next batch of OAD's will make a significant difference in our team's performance? By the way, I am a professional already in game betting, and also I know well this website since here I read a review of the Luxury Casino. Its features seemed to me financially advantageous, so I decided to earn money on game betting and casino playing. For teens who are still studying and need money for daily divertisement, it is so fit.
 
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