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Official game day thread- Duke vs UNC II
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If unc were to get in they would probably be a 12 or 11 seed play in team and since they are from the ACC, they wouldn’t face Duke until the Elite 8 at the earliest
None actually. Just got some Taco Bell to celebrate.
A tough year to measure the strength of each conference...SEC has the pole position but not sure they have the depth that the rankings say...ACC is pretty top 1-3 heavy...B12...the same....its going to be a very unpredictable NCAAT i think...outside of Auburn and Duke....the #1 seeds are still a toss up....
Who is the bigger clown? Crusty or Side Show Cadeu?
What is the hand on head gesture that Cooper's parents were doing to the crowd? I've seen players doing it after a dunk so I guess it means good play.
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I am in the minority here, but I don't think that the committee can leave out a 22 win UNC team that went out and played the schedule that they did. It's basically the same argument that they are trying to make to get a bunch of 8-11 SEC teams in, how hard the schedule was. My guess is they Play in the first four and maybe get a couple of W's.
I think they need to win a few games this week. But they are playing well and I think they could reach the sweet 16 with the right matchups. But I'd rather see them in the NIT.
UNC is 1-10 in the Quad 1 record....no way they should get in even with a few wins in the ACCT....ACC was not good this year
RJ Davis pounded his chest after hitting the shot that put them up 7. He would not score again. Don't poke the bear.
That’s the best part. ACC was so bad and yet UNC was absolutely mid
If you look at the team statistics and take a sharpie and redact the turnover column, Duke played a great game. Doesn’t feel that way because of the Carolina run which in totality went from a first half 15 point deficit to a second half 7 point lead before Duke restored order but the turnovers are part of that story along with Jon’s decision to put Flagg back in with 2 fouls. Big mistake as the Heels got two baskets because he had to back off being aggressive on the play trying to avoid the 3rd foul which he got anyway.
Call it “The Shelden Williams rule” (see 2004 Final Four) when a key player gets 2 fouls in the first you park them. Fortunately Flagg’s third didn’t come back to haunt Duke like Shelden’s did. Each team’s biggest lead was 15 for Duke and 7 for Unc and neither lead held.
RJ also pulled shots out of his arse during that run, give him credit and they played more physical than they did in Durham. Maliq on those switches is so damn good defensively and he really clamped RJ down. When RJ went out for a breather, they took bad shots and weren’t passing It. That first three Maliq nailed was a dagger and he threw in another for good measure. A 22-6 heels run over two halves was followed by a 33-13 Duke run to close out the game in the last 15:44, Wow!
It’s bizarre given the uber dominant year this Duke team has had that if they had lost last night they’d have been the 3rd seed in the ACC Tournament. The stars sure were out over there, Larry, Roy, Mitch, Bill, Lawrence, Tyler, etc. and to think their night was ruined. 😜 Congrats to Duke on the Regular Season Title 🏆 and a sweep of the arch rivals! They may play again in six days!
Call it “The Shelden Williams rule” (see 2004 Final Four) when a key player gets 2 fouls in the first you park them. Fortunately Flagg’s third didn’t come back to haunt Duke like Shelden’s did. Each team’s biggest lead was 15 for Duke and 7 for Unc and neither lead held.
RJ also pulled shots out of his arse during that run, give him credit and they played more physical than they did in Durham. Maliq on those switches is so damn good defensively and he really clamped RJ down. When RJ went out for a breather, they took bad shots and weren’t passing It. That first three Maliq nailed was a dagger and he threw in another for good measure. A 22-6 heels run over two halves was followed by a 33-13 Duke run to close out the game in the last 15:44, Wow!
It’s bizarre given the uber dominant year this Duke team has had that if they had lost last night they’d have been the 3rd seed in the ACC Tournament. The stars sure were out over there, Larry, Roy, Mitch, Bill, Lawrence, Tyler, etc. and to think their night was ruined. 😜 Congrats to Duke on the Regular Season Title 🏆 and a sweep of the arch rivals! They may play again in six days!
There are also 100s of more examples of trusting a guy to play with 2 first half fouls where it works out. It's a gamble, not a mistake. Good point about how Coop played turnstile D trying to avoid his 3rd. I remember an NCAAT game vs UCLA where JWill scored 20 consecutive points and their star, Jason Kapono, picked up 4 first half fouls. I remember being impatient wanting him to foul out and wondering why we weren't going at him more aggressively, then I realized his defense made it good for us to have him on the floor.
RJ was ridiculous. Maliq back was huge.
Had we stopped a meaningless Lubin dunk and Caleb hit a meaningless layup in the last minute, our margin of victory would have been exactly the same as the first match-up, despite how very different each game was.
Malik averaged 9.5 ppg at Syracuse last season. He just tied his season high for us with 8. Like our other 2 rotation transfers, he's really set an example for younger teammates how to put aside selfishness or personal ambition for the good of the team.
Very impressed with some rotation decisions Jon has made this year. Evans' emergence against Auburn was probably the first such example. How Maliq was used last night and playing Caleb in crunchtime are a couple more. He's still a young coach and is learning, but the future looks bright.
I was skeptical about UNC's winning streak because it happened against no one higher than 9th in the ACC during a down year, but the way they played us tough last night makes me think they're likely an NCAAT team. The Selection Committee looks at what you've done lately. They have some work to do in Charlotte, for sure, and I'd rather be wrong. Go Pitt-ND winner!
The biggest downside from last night that casts a cloud over the win is that, according to my sources, Jai Lucas is out for the rest of the season.
Malik averaged 9.5 ppg at Syracuse last season. He just tied his season high for us with 8. Like our other 2 rotation transfers, he's really set an example for younger teammates how to put aside selfishness or personal ambition for the good of the team.
Very impressed with some rotation decisions Jon has made this year. Evans' emergence against Auburn was probably the first such example. How Maliq was used last night and playing Caleb in crunchtime are a couple more. He's still a young coach and is learning, but the future looks bright.
I was skeptical about UNC's winning streak because it happened against no one higher than 9th in the ACC during a down year, but the way they played us tough last night makes me think they're likely an NCAAT team. The Selection Committee looks at what you've done lately. They have some work to do in Charlotte, for sure, and I'd rather be wrong. Go Pitt-ND winner!
The biggest downside from last night that casts a cloud over the win is that, according to my sources, Jai Lucas is out for the rest of the season.
Pretty sure anyone here could post exactly what he would post, without bothering to look at their board.
"Refs were terrible and completely one sided against us." and "If the coaches would have done what I was screaming for them to do, UNC would have won that game.......by a lot."
Heard gary is in the fetal position outside the office door of Unc’s athletic director. Belichick is sending campus security to remove gary.
I knew Maliq would play a role if he returned. I never thought his shooting would be the answer. Grateful for Caleb.Who woulda thought Foster and Maliq woulda turned the game around! Hell yeah
Waking up as the #1 overall seed as of today. Hopefully that gets us a very favorable first two games.
Maliq Brown subbed out with 07:31 in the first half, score 36-21 Duke.
Brown comes back in at the 15:59 mark in the second half, score 49-54 UNC.
Brown subs out at the 8:13 mark in the second half, score 68-61 Duke.
MVP
Brown comes back in at the 15:59 mark in the second half, score 49-54 UNC.
Brown subs out at the 8:13 mark in the second half, score 68-61 Duke.
MVP
One of the best passes of the year. It had to be like a bullet, and Brown/Kon delivered.
OFC
The guys stepped up last night. Maliq was great, Kon (7-10) was great, Cooper the last part of the 2nd half was great, Proctor and Sion were very solid.
The guy I was most impressed with was Caleb though. He didn’t play the previous game, has had a disappointing season so far, but as he was waiting to enter the game, was banging the floor. And he gave great energy once he got in.
So far, this has been the type of Duke team we’ve all been pleading for.
The guy I was most impressed with was Caleb though. He didn’t play the previous game, has had a disappointing season so far, but as he was waiting to enter the game, was banging the floor. And he gave great energy once he got in.
So far, this has been the type of Duke team we’ve all been pleading for.
Hope Foster has found his identity with this team. Giving us another defensive energy guy like Maliq off the bench when it's needed. Foster for defense and Evans for offense.
If Foster can embrace a Blakes type role; playing good D for 5-8 minutes a game and hitting the occasional 3 that will really help us. I credit the kid for not giving up. Whether that is enough to keep him at Duke we will find out soon. But props to the kid for being ready when his number was called. We can always use another ball handler; we were turning the ball over frequently when they went on their run.
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Writing on the wall says Caleb more than likely leaves and I think that works out for both parties. However, I don’t care about next year right now- if Caleb can give 10 minutes a game like he did last night, it makes us incredibly better.
Let’s go Duke!
Let’s go Duke!
The sweep feels so good. Nice to wake up to that on a Sunday morning. We also are fully healthy. Also nice to have Brown back. Pat gave valuable minutes when Brown out but may not quite be ready for prime time the way Brown is.
Please go to THR and read his post. OMG it’s pure gold.
Damn, I can't read anything there. I was banned a while back.
What did you do to get banned bleed? lol I’m curious
I posted it in @christophero Nathan's and Coors thread. Absolutely hilarious
I said it was a wet dream for Jabari Parker to commit to unc and got banned from there.
Well, turns out this handle has not been banned from there. Lol at his first line. "I'll keep this short."
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...and dammit.
I'll keep this short:
- Despite the naysaying here and elsewhere, and despite ESPN's relentless keep-UNC-out-of-the-NCAAT drum-beating, I knew damn well we could beat these guys. The senior-night energy for RJ and Withers should've been a factor, and it was, and Eliot jacked the crowd with that chase-down block on Proctor. But then dook starts off with Knipple stumbling (thru an uncalled travel) to make a heave, followed by rim-clanging 3s somehow bouncing in like they were in friggin HIS.
- But here's what was really missing for the first 14 minutes: Yeah, we were playing tight defense on-ball, but just like up at VaTech, we were nonethelss lacking OFF-BALL. FACT is (contrary to some inaccurate narratives), what got us cranked up Tuesday was finally getting active and aggressive in HELP D, and that's exactly what happened here. In Blacksburg it started at the 1st half under-8, this time is started at 6:02 when we FINALLY ran 44, and once again that got the defensive aggression fired up for ALL 5 GUYS, and a run thus ensued that got us right back into this thing.
- 2nd half, and here AGAIN, it was aggressive all-5-guys defense that got us going. Lubin and EC with back-to-back steals got us in transition and RJ kept smoking and we forced yet another timeout. And despite Groover and Co.'s best efforts, we stretched the lead to 6.
- Folks, here's where things went south --- when we couldn't get into transition, we started STANDING AROUND on offense. That can be one of the hazards of a hot guy hitting shots, and our off-ball motion just ground to a halt. Also frustrating to me was not posting hard on the mismatches we were eliciting in the paint, or missing cutters from the wing when we did move. We've been gradually doing better at getting inside-out recently, but that disappeared over a key stretch. Coming out of the under-12, everything we were doing well came unglued. When our offense stagnated, we also got back on our heels on the other end. I would've loved to have seen us scramble more, but granted, it's harder to press when you're not making shots.
- Jeez, how many of our shots, that have been going in, now came off the rim?... and not finishing inside on potential dimes? Yeah, there were some forces, but as I mentioned last time out, our good shooting has carried a lot of our recent success, and when it disappears --- 33% (26% 3s) --- it just killed our chances in the 2nd half. And meanwhile the damn dookies get a non-shooting Big heaving in rainbows. Sheesh.
- Finally, look --- dook is beatable, and beatable by us. Yes, they're physically huge and have a lot of weapons, but they DON'T have a PG, and when we can apply 5-man defensive pressure and stress them at the top, it shows --- dook had 14 TOs (and EC forced 4 of those) --- and again, we could've used more scrambles to keep the energy up.
Anyway, it's pretty damn clear --- the guys need to bow up and decide to get after it in Charlotte. Backs against the wall, (pick your cliche), etc, etc... but this team is capable of doing that and I hope like hell they do, because if we can make the Dance, there's nobody we can't beat if things are clicking...
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...and dammit.
I'll keep this short:
- Despite the naysaying here and elsewhere, and despite ESPN's relentless keep-UNC-out-of-the-NCAAT drum-beating, I knew damn well we could beat these guys. The senior-night energy for RJ and Withers should've been a factor, and it was, and Eliot jacked the crowd with that chase-down block on Proctor. But then dook starts off with Knipple stumbling (thru an uncalled travel) to make a heave, followed by rim-clanging 3s somehow bouncing in like they were in friggin HIS.
- But here's what was really missing for the first 14 minutes: Yeah, we were playing tight defense on-ball, but just like up at VaTech, we were nonethelss lacking OFF-BALL. FACT is (contrary to some inaccurate narratives), what got us cranked up Tuesday was finally getting active and aggressive in HELP D, and that's exactly what happened here. In Blacksburg it started at the 1st half under-8, this time is started at 6:02 when we FINALLY ran 44, and once again that got the defensive aggression fired up for ALL 5 GUYS, and a run thus ensued that got us right back into this thing.
- 2nd half, and here AGAIN, it was aggressive all-5-guys defense that got us going. Lubin and EC with back-to-back steals got us in transition and RJ kept smoking and we forced yet another timeout. And despite Groover and Co.'s best efforts, we stretched the lead to 6.
- Folks, here's where things went south --- when we couldn't get into transition, we started STANDING AROUND on offense. That can be one of the hazards of a hot guy hitting shots, and our off-ball motion just ground to a halt. Also frustrating to me was not posting hard on the mismatches we were eliciting in the paint, or missing cutters from the wing when we did move. We've been gradually doing better at getting inside-out recently, but that disappeared over a key stretch. Coming out of the under-12, everything we were doing well came unglued. When our offense stagnated, we also got back on our heels on the other end. I would've loved to have seen us scramble more, but granted, it's harder to press when you're not making shots.
- Jeez, how many of our shots, that have been going in, now came off the rim?... and not finishing inside on potential dimes? Yeah, there were some forces, but as I mentioned last time out, our good shooting has carried a lot of our recent success, and when it disappears --- 33% (26% 3s) --- it just killed our chances in the 2nd half. And meanwhile the damn dookies get a non-shooting Big heaving in rainbows. Sheesh.
- Finally, look --- dook is beatable, and beatable by us. Yes, they're physically huge and have a lot of weapons, but they DON'T have a PG, and when we can apply 5-man defensive pressure and stress them at the top, it shows --- dook had 14 TOs (and EC forced 4 of those) --- and again, we could've used more scrambles to keep the energy up.
Anyway, it's pretty damn clear --- the guys need to bow up and decide to get after it in Charlotte. Backs against the wall, (pick your cliche), etc, etc... but this team is capable of doing that and I hope like hell they do, because if we can make the Dance, there's nobody we can't beat if things are clicking...
I don't remember what I said. Honestly, I think it was pretty tame, but everyone is really sensitive over there.
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