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Yeah completely silly! Duke wears blue or white.Would be silly IMO if he redshirted! Hope Cam comes out of that walking boot soon.
Yeah completely silly! Duke wears blue or white.
Plus I doubt Baker intends on being a 4 year guy, might as well see if he can give us anything this year. Then he can still play another 2-3 seasons with us.
I mean I feel like he can come in this year and definitely contribute if need be.Plus I doubt Baker intends on being a 4 year guy, might as well see if he can give us anything this year. Then he can still play another 2-3 seasons with us.
None of these guys with NBA aspirations are going to be 4 year players anymore.Grayson being the exception this past year..As soon as they feel they have put themselves in a position to get drafted,they are out of here..be it one,two or occasionally three years.I truly feel that we may never see another players number be raised to the rafters,and that is a sad thing
I mean I feel like he can come in this year and definitely contribute if need be.
Grayson is probably a 2 and done if he doesn't need that surgery at the end of his soph season. He PLANNED on leaving after his junior year, hence his insane class load that year, which ironically contributed to a poor year on the court and his return to Duke for his senior year.
It's way, way too early to be speculating over who gets how many minutes. Assuming RJ is the real deal, he will probably get plenty. Baker may not be ready, you may be right. Then again, he may contribute early.I don't feel he can contribute much this year. I think he's a face up combo F this year, and we are awash in those. Bolden and Jav can play the C, with Jav playing some 4 as well. Zion can probably do spot minutes at the 5 if need be in specific situations. Each of Jack White, Cam, and RJ could function as small ball pfs, also. We've got Cam, Jack, RJ, and AOC that can ALL play SG or SF. Tre and Goldwire could also play together.
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Point being, any minutes Joey gets this year would have to come from Cam and RJ and Zion. Essentially all of AOC and Jack White's minutes will come at the expense of the C, R, and Z.
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I hope that Joey can get some mop up minutes, but I don't see him being a better option than C, R, and Z during meaningful minutes.
I agree perfectly. Lol. Makes no sense in my my mind for him to redshirt. He’s too good to expect to have to be here 5 years and play 4. Unless he just wants to break records or something ??? Not good enough???? Loves Duke so much he doesn’t want to leave???? Etc. I don’t see it . I wouldn’t understand it .Why reclassify . Ready or not he shouldn’t/wouldn’t redshirt in my mind. 99/1. The 1 being maybe if he didn’t play at all he would just redshirt for the safety and obvious reason that it’s just smart after the season.. If possible ? I don’t know the rules. If you have to redshirt before the season? Or you can after, if you have 0 playing time?? I don’t know how it works. I’ll just say I don’t think it’s anyway he redshirts before the season. Unless he’s just flat out horrible, and K tells him he won’t play at all! Lmao(I constantly edit to reduce my posts)Plus I doubt Baker intends on being a 4 year guy, might as well see if he can give us anything this year. Then he can still play another 2-3 seasons with us.
A poor year? GTFO with that shit!Grayson is probably a 2 and done if he doesn't need that surgery at the end of his soph season. He PLANNED on leaving after his junior year, hence his insane class load that year, which ironically contributed to a poor year on the court and his return to Duke for his senior year.
But let’s say there is an injury or multiple injuries, then we might have to rely on Joey.I don't feel he can contribute much this year. I think he's a face up combo F this year, and we are awash in those. Bolden and Jav can play the C, with Jav playing some 4 as well. Zion can probably do spot minutes at the 5 if need be in specific situations. Each of Jack White, Cam, and RJ could function as small ball pfs, also. We've got Cam, Jack, RJ, and AOC that can ALL play SG or SF. Tre and Goldwire could also play together.
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Point being, any minutes Joey gets this year would have to come from Cam and RJ and Zion. Essentially all of AOC and Jack White's minutes will come at the expense of the C, R, and Z.
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I hope that Joey can get some mop up minutes, but I don't see him being a better option than C, R, and Z during meaningful minutes.
A poor year? GTFO with that shit!
Yes considering Cam is in a boot I'd say Baker can contribute.
Plus I doubt Baker intends on being a 4 year guy, might as well see if he can give us anything this year. Then he can still play another 2-3 seasons with us.
It’s on the ground pointed up at them, thus resulting in that angle. Sorry, couldn’t resist.Off topic but what is wrong with Cam?
Dude! Quit your day job and become a stand up comedian!!It’s on the ground pointed up at them, thus resulting in that angle. Sorry, couldn’t resist.
I think you're wrong.
Agree with PY, I don’t think Grayson set out to stay four years... he ended up doing it, but he didn’t plan it. K has had a number of guys on the two and three year plan in the past... I don’t think a highly recruited and insanely competitive guy like Grayson expected any less than making it to the NBA in a lesser amount of time.
Grayson came to duke, i believe to be a four year player. His performance in April followed by the performance in his Soph year changed his plans. He went hard to then graduate in three years- many believe bc he could be the POY after his Soph year and lead his team to another final four or championship. Obviously things definitely did not turn out that way for him personally or for the team. Hence his no other choice but to return fate.
Really good insight. I feel the same way. Despite of his mistakes I'm happy he came to Duke and stuck it out. I think fans of the Utah Jazz will learn to be a fan of his. My son DukeSky85 lives there and is a fan of the Jazz. He says right now the Jazz fans have mixed reviews but I know there are very many N.C. transplants that have settled there with tar heel love. Grayson will win them over too in time. OFC
Then why did GA take so many courses that he'd graduate in THREE years, rather than FOUR years? Grad transfer? Plan on getting that post grad degree, did he?
Actions speak louder than words, and Grayson's actions were those of a guy that thought he'd leave after his junior year. I contend that he played his way into a first round possibility, but that he then had to return after his soph year due to the injury that would have prevented his working out, as well as being that dreaded lower back injury that the NBA is wary of.
Then why did GA take so many courses that he'd graduate in THREE years, rather than FOUR years? Grad transfer? Plan on getting that post grad degree, did he?
Actions speak louder than words, and Grayson's actions were those of a guy that thought he'd leave after his junior year. I contend that he played his way into a first round possibility, but that he then had to return after his soph year due to the injury that would have prevented his working out, as well as being that dreaded lower back injury that the NBA is wary of.
Actions speak louder then words... Grayson never tested the waters, he never did anything to show he planned to leave early.
Regardless of when Grayson left, it all worked out for him. He went 21st overall, went to a great franchise, plus he's a great fit within that franchise.
He most likely would only have matched his draft spot had he left after his freshman year, when he had all the positive hype that one could get. He had a great sophomore year, however it was shown that year that elite athletes could shut him down. Remember the UK game?? Believe he was 1-12. And then he did slow down towards the end of that season. His junior year was a disaster, he still would have been drafted though.
Long story short....I'm glad Grayson gave Duke 4 years, it all worked out for him. Which is VERY RARE when a guy stays in college for 4 years these days.
Agreed. He would have been a 1st rounder after his freshman year.Allen would have been drafted after his junior year, but I have my doubts about it being in the first round. Last year's draft was loaded.