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This team is loaded and you really don’t notice a drop at all when we sub. I think Jon is right about Harris and Evan’s minutes at this time. I just hope those two stay locked in and don’t leave after this season.
dukesince I have really liked Harris since watching him in hs. Terrific perimeter shooter, plays under control and sorry there's not more minutes for him.

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You're wrong and it's not even a good guess. Throw in office staff, bus drivers, IAs, and other classified staff, as well. I'm hardcore union with extreme Leftist leanings. I see dignity in all work and live that ideal daily. Geez, did you even read what my current plan for retirement is? Or were you too busy looking for some way to disparage me?

You're even lying in that concession at the end: easy to claim and pretend you're being diplomatic, but it matters more that you show it, and all you ever show is disrespect.
But if you drive a bus you can’t be posting on a message board all day or day drinking anymore.
I mean you could, but I wouldn’t recommend it

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I am indeed one expert. I trust @dukesince91 is one, too. I don't think we're saying fundamentally different things; I think we have different perspectives. You, on the other hand, don't know jack, and are operating here in bad faith, distorting what I said and ignoring other things I said.

No flippancy on my part whatsoever. My point is that for all the ways kids have changed, they are developmentally the same. 15 is 15. Covid is the only thing I've experienced that changes that. Technology such as the Internet and cell phones are factors around that, but it does not change the fact that 15 is 15. But I started teaching at 23 and I'm now 52. I have changed a lot more than the kids have. Every career educator has. And adults have been claiming that kids are different since at least the time of Socrates, who died more than 2400 years ago. It's perspective.

You're just looking for a stupid argument where it's completely unnecessary. That's why you're a bad faith actor in this. You don't belong in a dialogue between two experts.
Read the above post back to yourself. Then ask yourself: does this sound like an expert or does it sound more like the unhinged rantings of a delusional asshole?
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I added the bold. Let's see if you can figure out why it doesn't deserve any further comment.
I don’t have Kamalie’s Marxist Dad’s pay stubs. So average is the best I could do. Range of salary: 90k to 470k. This condescending response is a perfect example of how you can never admit you’re losing an argument but double down on condescension and sly insults.

Look we all know you’re hurting now. It must really suck when America tells you that you’ve been wrong about pretty much everything. We get it.
Unfortunately, instead of some soul searching, you’ve predictably gone a different route.

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I am indeed one expert. I trust @dukesince91 is one, too. I don't think we're saying fundamentally different things; I think we have different perspectives. You, on the other hand, don't know jack, and are operating here in bad faith, distorting what I said and ignoring other things I said.

No flippancy on my part whatsoever. My point is that for all the ways kids have changed, they are developmentally the same. 15 is 15. Covid is the only thing I've experienced that changes that. Technology such as the Internet and cell phones are factors around that, but it does not change the fact that 15 is 15. But I started teaching at 23 and I'm now 52. I have changed a lot more than the kids have. Every career educator has. And adults have been claiming that kids are different since at least the time of Socrates, who died more than 2400 years ago. It's perspective.

You're just looking for a stupid argument where it's completely unnecessary. That's why you're a bad faith actor in this. You don't belong in a dialogue between two experts.
Actually, kids are experiencing puberty earlier than before, esp. girls. Even in an area in which you claim to be an expert, your posts are riddled with inaccuracies

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They must have implemented the full 30 years for career renewal after I retired, which was 7 years ago. My teaching certificate says I’m licensed until I’m like 90 years old. I did the subbing gig a few times, but it’s just not the same as being their teacher from day one. As a substitute teacher, you can tell who the good teachers are by the lesson plan they leave for you. Good luck with those last 3 years until retirement, they will drag by (I mean fly by). Seriously, time will fly by once you retire.
I hope I understood that incorrectly. I need to look into it.

I've subbed at schools on a different calendar from mine. It's a pretty sweet gig. Nothing to take home, nothing to plan yourself. It's just crowd control and keeping the peace for one period at a time. And yeah, it's pretty easy to figure out who is going to have good plans in place. The first telltale sign is that their absence is planned in advance. Another is if they're part of a special program or career pathway within the school because those students are usually more into what they're studying in those classes. And if you're able to focus primarily on one school, you figure it out just by observation.

I need to see whether subbing or a half-time position is more lucrative. I expect to work into my 70s, so the bottom line will matter.

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Take from it what you will but it’s pretty easy to separate public educators into groups by who they associate with. I have a feeling you’ve never spoken to a custodian or cafeteria worker


You know plenty about public education I don’t doubt it
You're wrong and it's not even a good guess. Throw in office staff, bus drivers, IAs, and other classified staff, as well. I'm hardcore union with extreme Leftist leanings. I see dignity in all work and live that ideal daily. Geez, did you even read what my current plan for retirement is? Or were you too busy looking for some way to disparage me?

You're even lying in that concession at the end: easy to claim and pretend you're being diplomatic, but it matters more that you show it, and all you ever show is disrespect.

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Comparing rock n roll which I assume wasn’t played inside the school building and cell phones which they carry with them at all times, look at in the bathrooms, at lunch, and whenever the teacher isn’t looking is a weak analogy. Not to mention a second period history student can text a fourth period student in the same class what ‘s on the test that day.
You’re being flippant about the damage caused by cell phones imho, but hey you’re the expert.
I am indeed one expert. I trust @dukesince91 is one, too. I don't think we're saying fundamentally different things; I think we have different perspectives. You, on the other hand, don't know jack, and are operating here in bad faith, distorting what I said and ignoring other things I said.

No flippancy on my part whatsoever. My point is that for all the ways kids have changed, they are developmentally the same. 15 is 15. Covid is the only thing I've experienced that changes that. Technology such as the Internet and cell phones are factors around that, but it does not change the fact that 15 is 15. But I started teaching at 23 and I'm now 52. I have changed a lot more than the kids have. Every career educator has. And adults have been claiming that kids are different since at least the time of Socrates, who died more than 2400 years ago. It's perspective.

You're just looking for a stupid argument where it's completely unnecessary. That's why you're a bad faith actor in this. You don't belong in a dialogue between two experts.

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Being a cafeteria manager must make you a great mom. Mine was a cafeteria manager at my high school and finished up in elementary. The kids at the high school loved her and called her momma when they came through the line. We found a box where she had placed all the school pictures she was given by them.
I agree. I don't see why you'd be so hostile toward others in education who devote their lives to kids. Is it because working in a cafeteria is seen as blue collar and therefore "honest"? Whereas teaching means you have influence that's somehow inherently sinister?

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Overturned now that he's the President-elect, and in courts with Trump judges.

Both of her parents immigrated to the US a few years before she was born in 1964, the same year President LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act and a year before he signed the Voting Rights Act. Real estate redlining continued into the 1970s (you should know: Dear Leader settled lawsuits for it). Her dad was an assistant and associate professor until he first went to Stanford in 1972 when Kamala was 8 and her parents were already divorced. You think a Black immigrant in the '60s was raking it in financially? You think most professors are raking it in now? How gullible are you? I stand by my statement that she came from "modest" means.
At Stanford the average salary for a professor is $ 237,000. Most people would consider that “raking it in”.
Back then, even adjusted for inflation, I’m sure the salaries were much lower but still solidly middle class.

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For the sake of giving credit where credit is due. The board owes gratitude to @Dattier and I say this without sarcasm. We used to have a pretty balanced group in these discussions, but many people have quit engaging. Which is probably a healthy decision. The ones that are left are conservative for the most part. Datt knew it was going to be obnoxious here after Trump kicked the cackling commie's ass. But he still comes here and battles like a warrior for his side. That deserves a good level of admiration whether we agree with him or not.

So, CHEERS! Datt. Here is to making America great whether you like it or not.
I miss him talking basketball.. for all our disagreements he was actually a great basketball poster

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For the sake of giving credit where credit is due. The board owes gratitude to @Dattier and I say this without sarcasm. We used to have a pretty balanced group in these discussions, but many people have quit engaging. Which is probably a healthy decision. The ones that are left are conservative for the most part. Datt knew it was going to be obnoxious here after Trump kicked the cackling commie's ass. But he still comes here and battles like a warrior for his side. That deserves a good level of admiration whether we agree with him or not.

So, CHEERS! Datt. Here is to making America great whether you like it or not.

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Login to view embedded media This seems crazy, but hey, these times are crazy. The other rumors are some of the people maybe named in high positions.

Yeah, I could go out now with my sick leave. There's a hitch in the system, though, where in order to get the career license you don't have to renew, you have to go the full 30 years w/o using sick leave toward the total, and I'll need that for either subbing or teaching part-time.

I didn't mean Driver's Ed isn't legit, just that coaches practically have a closed shop.

I started teaching in '96. The only thing that has really caused me to think the kids have changed is Covid. Other than that, what change there is has been gradual and the biggest changes have been in me. The Internet wasn't really much of a thing for my first few years. Cell phones weren't much of a thing until a few years after that. They are both curveballs that have affected schools, for sure. I imagine teachers in the '50s said the same thing about rock & roll. Shoot, there's a Socrates quote about it: "Children nowadays are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannise [sic] their teachers." And the kids we've taught over the course of our careers will say the same thing about their own kids' generations.

Comparing rock n roll which I assume wasn’t played inside the school building and cell phones which they carry with them at all times, look at in the bathrooms, at lunch, and whenever the teacher isn’t looking is a weak analogy. Not to mention a second period history student can text a fourth period student in the same class what ‘s on the test that day.
You’re being flippant about the damage caused by cell phones imho, but hey you’re the expert.
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