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Your concerns have been mild and conditional, like GOP Congress members who make brief statements implying they have backbones, then fall in line to support him. You rally to defend him to the point @Mac9192 doesn't care at all that I'm losing money public educators have little chance of saving any other way. Y'all don't even pause to acknowledge what anyone is going through right now before ripping into President Biden and pointing everywhere but the present and the exact, real example in front of you.
“What anyone is going through right now”. You don’t think the rest of us are worried about the market? Or that it hits the middle class the hardest? That some of our family members’ net worths have declined by as much as 20 % in little over two months? Trump and his team knew this would happen, are banking on its temporal nature, and if it gets much worse the Rep could take a shellacking in the midterms as Thor alluded to in his post.

Off-season thoughts

I would prefer Proctor, otherwise portal pg.
I'm with you here. Don't think we should start a backcourt with a true freshman (Boozer) and Evans. That along with other inexperienced true freshman in the starting lineup isn't a good idea. We need some experience and a true ball handler. Can't have a lineup of..

PG-Cayden
SG- Evans if he decides to stay
SF- - Ament, Henderson, or Khamenia
PF- Cameron
C- Pat or Maliq

Nate Ament

ZERO 5 star players in the final last night ( most are gone by Jr year)....and several were undiscovered gems ( walter clayton)...i think we have to look beyond the ranking system and do a better job of finding the dogs who bring attitude and a chip on their shoulder to the game and who have experience in CBB. The will to win is greater than any 5 * ranking

Off-season thoughts

Not sure why everyone is calling for a PG.

Cayden Boozer is a PG and is the likely starter. If we got Foster back that would be ideal as a backup ball handler.

We need a 2 G who can shoot. Ideal if he can also handle the rock as well and play physical D. Preferably an upper class man with physical toughness and mental maturity. Akin to Sion but more consistent from 3.

This is from 247:

Boozer is a lead guard with terrific size and an extremely advanced ability to read and think the game. He has very advanced instincts and feel for the game. He sees the floor, feeds the post, dictates his own pace, and almost never gets sped-up. He’s as reliable as it gets in high school basketball with the ball in his hands, continuously posting better than 3:1 assist-to-turnover ratios. This year in the EYBL it was 6.6 assists against 2.1 turnovers. Earlier this summer it was 6.3 assists vs. 1.7 turnovers with the 17-and-under national team in FIBA play. Last year, it was 6.7 assists vs. 1.4 turnovers on the Nike E16 circuit.

Physically, Boozer doesn’t distinguish himself with his length or explosiveness, but with his positional size and strength, measuring at just under 6-foot-5 and 210-pounds this summer. He leverages his size well, understands how to use his body, and benefits from his ability to see over top of smaller defenders as a passer. He’s also a very good perimeter rebounder.

Defensively, he lacks ideal footspeed in certain match-ups, particularly when extended away from his help against smaller and quicker guards, but he has versatility up the line-up and a good understanding of where to be on the floor. He understands rotations, shows good anticipation (2.6 steals per game in FIBA player), and is opportunistic with his hands.

Offensively, in addition to his ability to run the show, he reads ball-screens well, has an instinct for how to cut away from the ball, and is crafty in the lane with a full assortment of finishing tricks. His shooting, while improved, remains an important long-term variable. He tends to push his release from his shoulder a bit. He made 40% of his threes and 75% of his free-throws last year in E16 play, but saw that dip to 29% and 75% this year in the EYBL.

What can’t be quantified with measurements or stats, at last at this stage, is the extreme impact on winning and the true love for the game. Boozer’s legitimate passion for the game comes in correlation to his aptitude for it. His history of winning, alongside his brother, is also undeniable with three straight state championships in Florida as well as three straight Nike EYB championships in the E15, E16, and EYBL divisions.
Cayden is more of a combo guard not a true pg . I think he averages around three assist in high school( could be wrong ) but I know some scouting boards have him listed as a combo .

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You're really reaching here. I meant everything in my post above. You take the jabs I say about you and your takes here, and make that your general assumption of me. So by your opinion of me, I should assume you're full of shit about everything, and a horrible person. Guess what? I don't. I do think you're delusional with your political and some social beliefs, but I honestly think you're a decent person.
All I have to think about you is what you present here, and everything you say about me says I'm not a decent person. You accuse me of being dangerous to kids and that I shouldn't be allowed near them; you claim that I know everything I believe is a lie; you claim I support things deliberately designed to destroy the country. I could go on. I even call you out on your absolutism and extremism all the time and you double down every time.

All any of us have here are our words. Exercise some freakin control like an adult for once instead of using the language of a tantruming child at every turn.

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Tariffs are complicated and it’s important to look at the history behind them. Trump seems to take inspiration from the McKinley-era playbook, but the U.S. economy back then looked nothing like it does now. There was no federal income tax, the government was largely funded by tariffs, and we weren’t deeply integrated into global supply chains. It’s also worth remembering what came next: the rise of Theodore Roosevelt and a broader populist wave that reshaped how government interacted with both industry and labor.

Tariffs can be useful, especially when targeted and strategic. There’s a legitimate case to be made for recalibrating trade with certain countries. But what’s missing in this current round is a coherent strategy. These aren’t being deployed in a measured, long-term framework—they’re framed as “reciprocal,” but really they’re a reaction to trade imbalances, many of which are rooted in structural realities: raw material exports, limited consumer markets, and weak purchasing power in a lot of these countries. They can’t import U.S. goods even if they wanted to.

And here’s the core issue: I don’t think these tariffs will bring jobs back in the way they’re being sold. If the goal was real onshoring, a better approach would’ve been a modest, across-the-board tariff—say, 10%—which is what he advertised during the campaign. Add a clear timeline with built-in escalation and give companies time to adapt. Pair that with real federal incentives and funding to support domestic manufacturing, and you’ve got a plan.

But that’s not what we’re seeing. This feels like a headline play more than an industrial policy. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump walks this back soon, claims a few “renegotiated” deals as a win, and moves on—without making the structural changes needed to actually bring jobs home.

And I’ll be honest—I have personal concerns about all of this. Playing with the stock market—along with everything tied to it like retirement accounts, consumer confidence, and business investment—is playing with fire. You shake that too hard, and the fallout doesn’t just hit the donor class. It hits regular people. That’s a huge gamble politically, and if it backfires, there’s no easy way to spin it.

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We’ve already given examples of Trump’s policies that we have concerns about.
If you’ve already forgotten because that nuance doesn’t fit into your good/evil, black/ white mentality, that’s your problemo.
The old way of doing things was great for the elites and the stock market and our MNC’s overseas, but our manuf base has been hollowed out. This is a bold approach, and way too early to deem it a failure and start the “I told you so” bullsh- like you’re doing right now
Your concerns have been mild and conditional, like GOP Congress members who make brief statements implying they have backbones, then fall in line to support him. You rally to defend him to the point @Mac9192 doesn't care at all that I'm losing money public educators have little chance of saving any other way. Y'all don't even pause to acknowledge what anyone is going through right now before ripping into President Biden and pointing everywhere but the present and the exact, real example in front of you.

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You've thrown mental health jabs at me consistently ever since.
Apologies don't mean anything when they're just words you throw out there when it would reflect negatively on you. If your apology has any integrity behind it at all, it should be obvious moving forward. I won't be holding my breath.
You're really reaching here. I meant everything in my post above. You take the jabs I say about you and your takes here, and make that your general assumption of me. So by your opinion of me, I should assume you're full of shit about everything, and a horrible person. Guess what? I don't. I do think you're delusional with your political and some social beliefs, but I honestly think you're a decent person.
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Woah now. You can think all you want about me, but I do have empathy for others, regardless of political beliefs. I'm a dad, been a husband, and have dealt with (and had) more struggles than I've ever brought up on here.

If you ever felt I've mocked you or the depression you dealt with after, I'm sincerely sorry.
So I frankly don't give a shit that you've lost 10% since January.

Go kick rocks for all I care.
You've thrown mental health jabs at me consistently ever since.
Apologies don't mean anything when they're just words you throw out there when it would reflect negatively on you. If your apology has any integrity behind it at all, it should be obvious moving forward. I won't be holding my breath.

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I cited nothing but my personal circumstances since January.

I'll ask again: Is this the "owning libtards" y'all voted for? How's all this winning working out for y'all so far?

And while we're at it, from Friday: How's that any different from how they've almost always been, and how is it any different from you?
We’ve already given examples of Trump’s policies that we have concerns about.
If you’ve already forgotten because that nuance doesn’t fit into your good/evil, black/ white mentality, that’s your problemo.
The old way of doing things was great for the elites and the stock market and our MNC’s overseas, but our manuf base has been hollowed out. This is a bold approach, and way too early to deem it a failure and start the “I told you so” bullsh- like you’re doing right now
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Just like you mocked my Dad's death and the depression I experienced in the aftermath.
Woah now. You can think all you want about me, but I do have empathy for others, regardless of political beliefs. I'm a dad, been a husband, and have dealt with (and had) more struggles than I've ever brought up on here.

If you ever felt I've mocked you or the depression you dealt with after, I'm sincerely sorry.

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The market fluctuates. If it’s so traumatic that you compare it to a death in the family, I’d put the $ into something with zero risk.
No, no. I was comparing @Mac9192 's response. He had no empathy in either case and even used my reaction to my Dad's death in 2021 to mock me.

It's why he will forever be a rage-filled little man, even when his hero is in office.

My 403b and the kids' college accounts are all in low-risk, conservative investments. I've been contributing to the 403b since my 20s. We had the first college account set up right after our first kid was born in 2001, and shortly after the others' births in 2004 and 2009.

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I don’t remember any quarterly financial reports when Joe was President. The tariffs have definitely been a jolt to the system, but hopefully it’s just a temporary downturn. The whole pt is to bring manufacturing jobs back to this country. High paying jobs that Dems don’t like cus it gets uneducated workers off of govt assistance.
So, if you’re going to suggest that Trump’s policies are a complete failure because the market has taken a downturn, you’re not operating in good faith but from a place of resentment and panic.
I cited nothing but my personal circumstances since January.

I'll ask again: Is this the "owning libtards" y'all voted for? How's all this winning working out for y'all so far?

And while we're at it, from Friday: How's that any different from how they've almost always been, and how is it any different from you?

Off-season thoughts

This year's roster construction was brilliant. Jon knew we had several freshmen in key roles and focused on portal players who would complement them on the court with their skill sets & team-first mindsets, and off the court with their maturity. He also emphasized size.

We had good size 10 deep this year. If we get Pat back and any one of Proctor, Foster, or Evans, we have good foundational size at 2 positions, and all 4 current recruits also have good positional size. It will be rare that we will have 2 guys as versatile and big as Coop & Kon, but we stand to have good size next year regardless. I like our chances for some quality portal players this year and trust Jon's eye for who will be a good fit. It's hard to imagine having a roster as well constructed as this year's, though.
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