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I disagree with letting it evolve away from law enforcement. Drugs are and should be illegal. I gave my opinion earlier on how important it is for people to be held accountable at the same time as being given a way out that doesn't carry a stigma for the rest of their lives. If drugs were legal and there was no legal pressure to be clean, there would be no incentive for addicts, or people headed down that path, to refrain from using. If someone dies from quitting cold turkey, they would be in the category that @KDSTONE labeled "too far gone". And the policy of safe spaces would only increase those numbers. Treatment centers treat severe withdrawal symptoms. It's so important not to encourage drug use. You never know what dose will be the last. The idea in these safe places is that someone will be there if there is an OD, but the best way to prevent on overdose is for there to be no dose at all.

I see people every day who struggle with addiction. There is nothing more rewarding than seeing someone overcome their addiction. I only wish my sister would have encountered law enforcement before she became too far gone.
One of the drawbacks of these harm reduction sites is that it assumes the user only consumes their drug of choice at the site. Many skeptics claim that the user still engages in risky behavior (dirty needles, potential of fentanyl laced drugs, etc) in addition to their use at the “safe” site.
It’d be like giving an alcoholic who normally drinks a gallon of liquor a day a pint a day and expecting them not to drink more when they’re on their own to reach their desired level. I’m making the assumption that users have a daily limit they can consume at the safe site in order to avoid the possibility of OD’s.

On the other hand, if someone wants to quit it might help them lower their daily amount until they can get into a rehab and get medical assistance for their withdrawals.
I’m not sure where I stand on pot legalization, I’d have to dig into it a little more. If liquor is legal, it def makes sense that pot would be I agree. Def opposed to legalizing hard drugs though.

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Sounds like a positive program. Over time, I would like to see it continue to evolve away from law enforcement. I don't know what you're referring to as "giving people a safe place to use hard drugs." It sounds like a distortion of the plausible if debatable idea that going cold turkey can kill people so weening them off drugs may be safer, as if ongoing use is the end goal.
I disagree with letting it evolve away from law enforcement. Drugs are and should be illegal. I gave my opinion earlier on how important it is for people to be held accountable at the same time as being given a way out that doesn't carry a stigma for the rest of their lives. If drugs were legal and there was no legal pressure to be clean, there would be no incentive for addicts, or people headed down that path, to refrain from using. If someone dies from quitting cold turkey, they would be in the category that @KDSTONE labeled "too far gone". And the policy of safe spaces would only increase those numbers. Treatment centers treat severe withdrawal symptoms. It's so important not to encourage drug use. You never know what dose will be the last. The idea in these safe places is that someone will be there if there is an OD, but the best way to prevent on overdose is for there to be no dose at all.

I see people every day who struggle with addiction. There is nothing more rewarding than seeing someone overcome their addiction. I only wish my sister would have encountered law enforcement before she became too far gone.
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