Mac9192 said:

At this point in the game, one is either an American or a Democrat.

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What an unAmerican thing to say.

sheyduke said:

Any one read how Cooper was tired and gassed during the Scrimmage. He said his lungs were killing him .

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Not surprised shey, the kid never takes a single play off. Also, I think there's something to be said for THE MOMENT.

First live showing for a freshman in Cameron. No doubt in my mind the excitement of Cooper's long awaited debut contributed to his being even more drained. He'll adjust, but we must not ride him too hard.

OFC

pisgah101 said:

Parents came back on thankfully! Some folks are still in dark though.. 9 days is a long time with no power!

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Glad you and your folks are OK. Best of luck with the re-build. You'll wait a long long time for insurance assistance. I'm still waiting on Debby and haven't even been assigned an adjuster for Helene. We're on our own and the help of incredible neighbors and locals. There are a lot of good people out there in the South.
OFC

Dad2ze said:

I know @pisgah101 was affected by the storm. I know he has power now but his parents don’t.

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Parents came back on thankfully! Some folks are still in dark though.. 9 days is a long time with no power!

timritterus said:

Yeah, agreed. Thats why I think there will be times where we shift Cooper to the 3. It's a good thing we have strong guys in Sion, Brown, and Mason who will be able help with that physicality.

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I just do not want to see this young man's spirit broke. He will have a target on his back all season.

timritterus said:

Amile didn't start a single game in the ncaa tournament that year. He averaged 18 min/g off the bench. Still don't believe me? Here are all the box score links.
Duke vs Robert Morris
Duke vs San Diego St
Duke vs Utah
Duke vs Gonzaga
Duke vs. Michigan St
Duke vs Wisconsin - Marshall played 9 min in the championship game and had one foul

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The adjustments for Amile was about shooting. K trustee Winslow.

sheyduke said:

Winslow played sf Amile and Okafor started and Amile got put on Frank when both Marshall and Okafor were in foul trouble . Winslow was way above his development physical size wise so he was able to switch but still played sf .

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Amile didn't start a single game in the ncaa tournament that year. He averaged 18 min/g off the bench. Still don't believe me? Here are all the box score links.
Duke vs Robert Morris
Duke vs San Diego St
Duke vs Utah
Duke vs Gonzaga
Duke vs. Michigan St
Duke vs Wisconsin - Marshall played 9 min in the championship game and had one foul

christophero said:

Believe it or not, Sion played some 5 at Tulane. It's not ideal; but if foul trouble you have a 6-6 225 strong guy to plug in there. He blocked several of Mal's shots in the low post in a scrimmage.

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jamsession2 said:

We will know what this team is when they play an upperclassmen team.

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ASU is full of upperclassmen in the front and back court . Granted it’s a charity game but it’s not a scrimmage.

timritterus said:

Gillis. I believe he play a lot of 4 for us this year. He played there for Purdue too. He's jacked, plays solid defense, and can shoot/space the floor.


If that's who starts, Sion will be the first perimeter player off the bench. He can come in for any of the 1, 2, or 3. I think we will keep one of Foster or Proctor on the court basically all the time. When Gillis comes in, either he or Flagg can play 3 or the 4. And yes, Brown and Mal can play together with Flagg shifting down to the 3.


I think Kon will be much, much better than Power, but if not, I think Sion could start.



Of all of these, literally Singler was the only one to not play the 4 when we won the national championship. Hell, Battier guarded their 5, Woods (for longer than he should have), in 01 championship game. Amile played center and guarded Kaminisky when Okafor was in foul trouble, while Winslow matched up with their 4 (Nigel Hayes) like he did all year.

You're basically making my point for me. Just because you have some other big guys on the roster, your best team may be having only one of them starting/playing big minutes.

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Winslow played sf Amile and Okafor started and Amile got put on Frank when both Marshall and Okafor were in foul trouble . Winslow was way above his development physical size wise so he was able to switch but still played sf .
We will see how the season turns out .
Any one read how Cooper was tired and gassed during the Scrimmage. He said his lungs were killing him .

I know @pisgah101 was affected by the storm. I know he has power now but his parents don’t.

I was disappointed once we took the lead our defense seemed to ease up on the pressure. Couldn't get a stop

Believe it or not, Sion played some 5 at Tulane. It's not ideal; but if foul trouble you have a 6-6 225 strong guy to plug in there. He blocked several of Mal's shots in the low post in a scrimmage.

jamsession2 said:

Tim you're making a good point, but keep in mind Shane was a senior and Winslow was a physical stud. Singler played relaxed all season. Thomas, Zou, Mason and Miles...no pressure, just score. That's what we want for Cooper, no pressure. If the game ever got physical we do not know what Cooper will do. That's actually scary. The team must protect Cooper for his offensive skillset.

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Yeah, agreed. Thats why I think there will be times where we shift Cooper to the 3. It's a good thing we have strong guys in Sion, Brown, and Mason who will be able help with that physicality.

timritterus said:

Gillis. I believe he play a lot of 4 for us this year. He played there for Purdue too. He's jacked, plays solid defense, and can shoot/space the floor.


If that's who starts, Sion will be the first perimeter player off the bench. He can come in for any of the 1, 2, or 3. I think we will keep one of Foster or Proctor on the court basically all the time. When Gillis comes in, either he or Flagg can play 3 or the 4. And yes, Brown and Mal can play together with Flagg shifting down to the 3.


I think Kon will be much, much better than Power, but if not, I think Sion could start.



Of all of these, literally Singler was the only one to not play the 4 when we won the national championship. Hell, Battier guarded their 5, Woods (for longer than he should have), in 01 championship game. Amile played center and guarded Kaminisky when Okafor was in foul trouble, while Winslow matched up with their 4 (Nigel Hayes) like he did all year.

You're basically making my point for me. Just because you have some other big guys on the roster, your best team may be having only one of them starting/playing big minutes.

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Tim you're making a good point, but keep in mind Shane was a senior and Winslow was a physical stud. Singler played relaxed all season. Thomas, Zou, Mason and Miles...no pressure, just score. That's what we want for Cooper, no pressure. If the game ever got physical we do not know what Cooper will do. That's actually scary. The team must protect Cooper for his offensive skillset.

bullcity gamer said:

I’ve said this before, this is the Deepest Duke Team since the 2010-2011 Duke Team. That team essentially had 7 guys capable of starting. The 2024-2025 Blue Devils arguably will have 10 guys capable of starting.

2010-2011:

Kyrie
Smith
Singler
Kelly
MP2
Curry (Starter when Kyrie went down)
MP1 (Started a few games)
Dawkins
Thornton
Hairston

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Who started on this team was based on matchups and Coach K's trust. Jon may lean more with the talent.

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We will know what this team is when they play an upperclassmen team.

I’ve said this before, this is the Deepest Duke Team since the 2010-2011 Duke Team. That team essentially had 7 guys capable of starting. The 2024-2025 Blue Devils arguably will have 10 guys capable of starting.

2010-2011:

Kyrie
Smith
Singler
Kelly
MP2
Curry (Starter when Kyrie went down)
MP1 (Started a few games)
Dawkins
Thornton
Hairston

sheyduke said:

What happens if Flag gets into fouls trouble at the pf spot ? Then who do you bring in at pf ?

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Gillis. I believe he play a lot of 4 for us this year. He played there for Purdue too. He's jacked, plays solid defense, and can shoot/space the floor.

sheyduke said:

So let’s say you start Mal, Flag, Kon, Foster and Proctor. Who’s your back up pg and pf? Sion and Gillis?

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If that's who starts, Sion will be the first perimeter player off the bench. He can come in for any of the 1, 2, or 3. I think we will keep one of Foster or Proctor on the court basically all the time. When Gillis comes in, either he or Flagg can play 3 or the 4. And yes, Brown and Mal can play together with Flagg shifting down to the 3.

sheyduke said:

I’ve listened to posters on here say the same thing they said about Power and Stewart like they are saying about Kon this year . How did that pan out ?

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I think Kon will be much, much better than Power, but if not, I think Sion could start.

sheyduke said:

And just for giggles what position did Winslow. Singler and Battier play when Duke won it all in 01,10 and 15 ? SF.
Singler had Thomas and Zoubs
Battier had Boozer and Dunleavy
Winslow had Amile and Okafor .
Tatum if you want to add had Bolden and White and Obi oh and Amile and Javin .

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Of all of these, literally Singler was the only one to not play the 4 when we won the national championship. Hell, Battier guarded their 5, Woods (for longer than he should have), in 01 championship game. Amile played center and guarded Kaminisky when Okafor was in foul trouble, while Winslow matched up with their 4 (Nigel Hayes) like he did all year.

You're basically making my point for me. Just because you have some other big guys on the roster, your best team may be having only one of them starting/playing big minutes.

christophero said:

The Kon/Power comparison is not really apt. Power was one guy raving about him. Goodman maybe? Kon has had his entire team, the coaches, scouts and onlookers all summer raving. Could he be overrated? Sure. But he is a player, sophomore Kennard maybe. Some have said he was easily our best player. That may be a bit much, but the hype seems legit. But Shey is right; lets see how Kon does when the best wing defender is on him. But that is good, because if they double Kon someone else is open.

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Don’t think they will double Kon . He’s not Uber quick so they know if he picks up his dribble he’s passing . It was more than Goodman raving about Power. The same guy that was talking about Kon at practice was one too.
ASU is going to be a good sample size of what lineups, rotations and defense offense could look like as the season progresses.
Could have said , IMO Flag playing all season at the four is waist . But I was under the impression every poster knew that was my opinion not everyone’s but this is simply a message board . If I truly knew a whole lot about player development and coaching I’d be one instead of and electrician/ gun restoration business owner.

The Kon/Power comparison is not really apt. Power was one guy raving about him. Goodman maybe? Kon has had his entire team, the coaches, scouts and onlookers all summer raving. Could he be overrated? Sure. But he is a player, sophomore Kennard maybe. Some have said he was easily our best player. That may be a bit much, but the hype seems legit. But Shey is right; lets see how Kon does when the best wing defender is on him. But that is good, because if they double Kon someone else is open.

bullcity gamer said:

shey I know you’ve said in the past spelling isn’t your thing. Just want to clarify it’s TJ Power.

Please don’t take this post the wrong way just want to let you know it’s Power and not Powers.

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Yeah I have lol. I don’t take any post wrong nothing wrong with correcting. I fixed it . Chris gets on me all the time about it . I got big fingers pushing on my phones keypad lol.

SDevada said:

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CNN? Even Colbert’s audience laughed at the prospect that Cnn is anything other than a shill for the Dem Party.