Transfer Portal
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Wait, so because they came to Duke the coaching staff is obligated to play them otherwise they aren't investing in them? I think that's a pretty short sighted viewpoint. Who would you have taken minutes from? Ryan Young? Then the argument would be that Ryan Young invested in Duke but Duke did not invest in him.
I unfollowed every player that entered the portal on social media except Blakes and Roach, I respect them two... childish maybe, but I'm DUKE to the core, once your gone, it is what it is.
Good point Devil. We've pounded our chests for years that the talent wants to come and be a part of The Brotherhood. We can say what we want, but this doesn't look good on Duke. Jon will definitely have to adjust, and either play the kids he recruits, or we will have departures like Stewart and Power again.
Mitchell, Roach, and Blakes leaving isn't on the staff. Mitchell had two years here, and played more than he probably should have. Blakes just isn't good enough, and Roach gave Duke 4 years.
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Not likely. Hurley makes his brother look sedated. He is one motivated guy, who knows how to pick and motivate his players. They’ll have an adjustment period in the early season, then watch them. I’m not saying they’ll repeat, but they’ll be a force to reckon with come tourney time.
The headline when Power left was exodus. What is it now? A stampede? I figured a worst case scenario was getting one of Mitchell Power/Stewart back but that was too optimistic.
Travis Branham just logged a crystal ball for Mason Gillis to Duke. That would help alot for next year's squad. 6'6- an excellent shooter and can bang the boards. Plus, he's been in all the big games at Purdue.
23 years old and will turn 24 at start of the season. Exactly what would be needed off the bench.
23 years old and will turn 24 at start of the season. Exactly what would be needed off the bench.
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Gillis would be a huge get. He's been a role player on a team with a superstar and would give us alot more than any of the young transfers.
Not surprised that you totally missed the point. The point is that if Jon is doing such a good job of recruiting, why are his recruits not getting more PT? And if he is doing a great job, then those recruits who have trusted and invested in him over all of the other offers thay have received, they should have a real chance to prove thier worth over time against good competition. We cannot ever know how good they could be if they are not given a REAL chance. So, you bring them in, let them play in real games (and not just scrimmages) to prove how good they can become. 30 minutes of PTover one season will not do the job. OFC
lol go kick rocks I like that one! But nope I’m a true Duke fan if you believe me or not! And I’m hoping and wishing Duke kick everyone ass next year!!!!!
They won’t . No matter what portal players they bring in . The entire team will be new to one another and the freshman will have major adjustments. I’m not saying it will be a bad season but I wouldn’t say NC .
Hopefully Coach can get them all in sync! But I like the idea of bringing in some veteran transfers that have played important roles on other teams to go along with the freshmen coming in! I like the idea of doing something different hopefully it leads to Championship!
Not surprised you can’t answer a simple question I posed to you. You can’t because it disproves your point. You want Duke to have its cake and eat it too. It doesn’t work that way anymore.
Big ten 6th man of the year I believe
Exactly. SO many team are brand new each year these days. Duke will be just fine and has a ton of talent coming in. Sprinkle in a few portal kids and we are in business
At least we got the top freshmen so add some quality veterans and we good to go
With Sean leaving I think it’s safe to say Duke is about to get at least one new player from the portal. Maybe the Cuse kid and someone else.
I like your optimism but we say this every year. All we needed last offseason to be a serious title contender was an inside presence. We all knew that. We didn’t get one
Not happy with 7 transfers, but the Syracuse and Purdue players would be a nice start. We don't have either of them yet but we seem to be the leaders. I assume they are good students.
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This is the one guy that I don’t get. IMO, you pay Stewart at least much as what you’re offering Brown. Maybe we can get Mitchell or Stewart to reconsider.
Yeah, if Scheyer and Duke didn’t make it clear that Stewart would be a starter next year then that’s a major f#ck up on Scheyer’s part. Hes in the same boat as Foster and Proctor & is a lock as our PF starter next year.
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Yeah- I understand what you're saying and do not disagree. We absolutely need atleast two experienced, quality transfers and we have plenty of time/options to do so. Alot of talent coming in next year.
Gillis checks a lot of boxes. He's strong, experienced, and started at Purdue 2 years before being 6th man of the year in the Big 10. Him and the Syracuse guy would make us older and tougher, they are both good defenders. It's worth pointing out that Roach and Mitchell are ranked much higher as transfers than Brown and Gillis, at least by CBS. Still, they both look like solid role players. Add another portal guard and that is a pretty good team, although that is a lot of ifs. And a lot of new guys.
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Losing Stewart hurts but I think ultimately Duke is about to get what a lot of fans have wanted. Experience and toughness via the portal.
The same thing will probably happen again next year with 1-3 of our incoming freshmen. They give Duke a chance and if they are outside that top 5 on the team they will chase the highest bidder. Then we will fill the gaps with veterans and hopefully another strong recruiting class.
The same thing will probably happen again next year with 1-3 of our incoming freshmen. They give Duke a chance and if they are outside that top 5 on the team they will chase the highest bidder. Then we will fill the gaps with veterans and hopefully another strong recruiting class.
I know a lot of people were high on Stewart and power but they were not going to get much playing time next year. Power was a liability on defense. Stewart is a little undersized for what we need. I can’t blame them for leaving and I can’t blame Duke staff for trying to improve roster.
Brown is much better than Stewart and Power right now. He could start for us next year. He led the ACC in steals. He is more on the level of Mitchell. Arguably better. Plus he has 2 years, for whatever that is worth these days.
We don’t need them to be better then roach or Mitchell, those roles are filled on this team.. we need them to fit the role to optimize a generational talent
Absolutely! And Brown can shoot, defend and was forced into playing out of position at times for the Cuse. The ACC’s steals leader like you said. He’d make this team better than Power or Stewart. Since these days it seems to be an either/or scenario for players. If you want that one you can’t keep this one. There was a time in the sport when you could have both and the younger kid waited their turn and developed. Everyone thinks they’re a starter these days. 🙄
Brown didn't even start for Syracuse- I would have to believe he's not starting for Duke. All we can hope for is he's a solid rotational guy who can give minutes when needed. Gillis is top priority at this point.
We have to be realistic that most programs are not going to play more than 9 guys in a game throughout the regular season (unless it’s a blowout game). During the post season, the rotations shrink throughout the country. The only way to give all scholarship players is to run a platooning system. Good Luck trying to convince guys who want all the minutes they can handle to only play half of a game. Like Neue said gone are the days of underclassmen want to “wait their turn” I honestly don’t blame them, you’re only young once.
2010-2011 season was the last time Duke legitimately played 10 guys before Kyrie went down with his injury:
Kyrie
Smith
Singler
Kelly
MP2
Curry
MP1
Dawkins
Thornton
Hairston
2010-2011 season was the last time Duke legitimately played 10 guys before Kyrie went down with his injury:
Kyrie
Smith
Singler
Kelly
MP2
Curry
MP1
Dawkins
Thornton
Hairston
But it's Duke, and we seem to always have 1-2 guys injured, so we need at least 9 guys. With Roach, McCain, Schutt and Blakes gone (damn that's a lot of guards gone) we need to get a portal guard. A guard, Brown or Gillis and that's 10. We may only get one of Gillis/ Brown as they are both forwards. Is Gillis a 3 or a 4? From what I've seen they are both 4s. If we bring in Brown and Gillis one of our freshman could decommit, but we need some experience and Jon knows this.
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Chris, I think Gillis is a 3, don’t quote me on that though haha. I had seen Duke had reached out to Maheny from Saint Mary’s he would be a very good guard to add to this roster. He is going to be a Junior.
Carlyle I believe is the Stanford kid we showed interest in. He's a big guard, a 2 or a 3. Averaged 11ppg as a freshman. I know Brown visited and Gillis is visiting soon.
If Duke lands Gillis, Brown, and Carlyle, Duke still needs a PF or a couple PFs unless the coaching staff plans on playing the freshmen at the PF which to be fair this incoming class has a plethora of size to man the Forward spots.
Maybe Stewart felt slighted, maybe he didn’t want to compete for the starting spot, maybe he was not given a fair shake his freshman season. I don’t know.
It could be that Jon wouldn’t give into a player, and for what he feels is betterment of the team, is rolling the dice on someone else.
I know it’s a lot of maybes and possibilities. But Jon is the man in charge.
And I wouldn’t want his job.
It could be that Jon wouldn’t give into a player, and for what he feels is betterment of the team, is rolling the dice on someone else.
I know it’s a lot of maybes and possibilities. But Jon is the man in charge.
And I wouldn’t want his job.
